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I just had one of these done yesterday. I got pretty dizzy and warm all over and kinda out of it. I thought, oh no, i just did something else which is going to make me worse instead of better.
After it was over and i recovered 10 minutes later, i started to feel really good! I mean, i felt horrible before it maybe at level 1. After the IV i felt like a 6. I will take that!
Im still feeling much better this morning and im hoping it will last for a few days.
Has anyone had one of these? What were your experiences?
I have been recovering from a heavy metal challenge these past few weeks and finally im starting to feel human again.
Thanks,
Jordan
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You might want to ask GIG about this one. You said that you had a metals challenge recently. Well I know this much, Vitamin C, which is in the myers cocktail, does somthing to any metals that you might have in the brain. I think that it releases them into the blood stream. If you are doing the myers IV you might want to make sure that you are also doing sothning that will bind to the metals that you are releasing so that they don't re-circulate in the GI tract.
I had been doing a number of the myers IVs earlyier in treatment and they did help overall.
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what is this meyers cocktail?
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Carol in PA
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The "Myers Cocktail" is an intravenous therapy consisting of various mixes of vitamins, minerals and other nutrients.
It can be very useful in situations where oral nutrients or other therapies are not working.
When nutrients are given intravenously, your digestive system is bypassed and a much higher level of nutrition can be delivered directly to your cells via the bloodstream.
Intravenous nutrient therapy: the "Myers' cocktail"
Building on the work of the late John Myers, MD, the author has used an intravenous vitamin-and-mineral formula for the treatment of a wide range of clinical conditions.
The modified "Myers' cocktail," which consists of magnesium, calcium, B vitamins, and vitamin C, has been found to be effective against
This paper presents a rationale for the therapeutic use of intravenous nutrients, reviews the relevant published clinical research, describes the author's clinical experiences, and discusses potential side effects and precautions.
Well, i felt better for one day. Too bad. I was hoping it would have lasted longer.
Jordan
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Foggy - I would much prefer your version!!!!
Thanks for the laugh.
Jill
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I got some Myers Cocktails before I had my teeth/root canals/cavitations done and before I knew Dr. K. They did little but provide that warm feeling for a few hours - exactly in the most needing areas of the body at that moment - my jaw and my reproductive area (where metals often settle). But that had a greater effect on my pocket book than anything else.
Yes, magnesium is often the most missing mineral, and people get in trouble when they are missing it or when they are missing electrolytes. There is no detoxing without the necessary electrolytes. They need to be supplied on an ongoing basis.
Take care.
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Re JohnLyme's comment on Vitamin C and metals in the brain, I have posted the following a little while back in another thread:
It was presented by Dr. K. at the scientific meeting of the Great Lakes College of Clinical Medicine in Pa in 1997, entitled:
"The use of free electrons as "poor man's antioxidant therapy" and other uncommon uses of electricity in clinical medicine.
In living organisms, many oxidation/reduction reactions occur at any moment.
In general, oxidation reactions are catabolic in nature - they break down things: "oxydative damage" from sun exposure ages the skin, products of oxidation cause arthritis and inflammation, oxidized fats are "bad fats", oxidized gluathion doesn't do the magic - it is reduced glutathion only. Oxidized iron (Fe 3+) is implied with the causation of cancer, reduced iron (Fe 2+) is essential for our health. In this case, Fe 3+ means that this iron atom is missing 3 electrons in its outer shell in order to be stable, Fe 2 only 2, Fe 2+ is less electropositive (or more electro-negative). In short, products of oxidation are bad for our health and age us (even though many of them are a necessary part of our biochemistry.
Oxidants or oxydating substances are electron thieves. The opposite is true for reducing agents, also called "Antioxidants". Antioxidants are electron donors.
Vitamin C, E, b-Carotene, Selenium, reduced Gluathion-SH and many other nutrients and substances belong in this category.
Bob Cathgart MD, one of the pioneers in IV vitamin C therapy could show that vitam C exerts its antioxidant effect by giving off 2 electrons per vitamin C molecule.
When we do a vitamin C flush or infuse high doses of vitamin C way above the RDA, we are not trying to substitute a malnourished patient with a vitamin - we are trying to pump electrons into his/her tissues to undo "oxidative damage" or more simply put - we are trying to supplement electrons.
Antioxidants or reducing agents have in general an anabolic tissue repairing effect. The citric acid cycle - those biochemical reactions in the mitochondria that are responsible for the formation of ATP, our body's energy fuel - is nothing else but a way to transport free electrons down a cascade of steps, which in itself produces energy: the electron is picked up by Vitamin E and selenium, passed on to Ascorbate, then Glutathione, then to NADH (from Vit. B3) to the folds ("christae") of the inner lining of the mitochondria, where the cytochromes such as Coenzyme Q10 reside.
Where do the electrons from from? They have to be delivered to the cell piggiback on atoms, molecules and substances ("antioxidants") and in the form of free electrons. These appear when an electric field has traveled along a nerve and through its charge has "knocked off" an electron from one of several of the minerals in or at the cell membrane.
In recent decades, there has been an increasing shortage of electrons in our natural environment: xenobiotics cause oxidative damage (use up electrons), radiowaves and alternating electromagnetic fields (electromagnetic pollution) from household appliances, portable phones, etc. have been shown to consume electrons in living organisms.
Physical exercise is a generator for electrons through friction and motor nerve activity. We are a humanity less phsically active than at any other time before. The processing of foods often causes - but not always - oxidative damage.
The good news: refrigeration slows down oxidation. The gradual reduction of heart disease in Western countries has been conclusively linked refrigeration - not to cholesterol."
(the 1997 lecture continues leading toward the use of the "Electro Bloc" for pumping in electrons - and I will not post the whole lecture nor the references; today we use the KMT24, etc.)
I learned during my healing process that the IV Vit C flush following mobilization of mercury with other agents is done to give certain mercury its lost electron back, so that it can be moved along and, hopefully, out of the body.
Take care.
P.S. Lots of physics is involved - biochemistry cannot do it alone. Biochemistry is what most people talk about when they talk supplements, etc.
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Yes, i was kinda freaked out by the warmth in my reproductive area. I didnt say anything to the IV tech though.
I thought about the IV C, but, my doctor wanted me to try the Myers.
I cant believe i still feel crappy from that heavy metal test. I took a 400mg DMPS pill followed by an IV which may have contained EDTA, im not really sure. But, i know the IV didnt contain DMPS. I wish i never would have had that test. I was doing so good before it.
I have been using the Chelex which has EDTA, lipoic acid, NAC, and DMSA in it. I am actually feeling better on it. I know you told me that you didnt know anyone who used it, but, i really need to feel better.
Jordan
Hopefully, i will feel better soon.
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I think I did a modified Meyers last week according to what I read the ingredients are.
I did this last Wednesday, I am feeling better than I have in a very long time. I was sleeping till 2 now Im up at 9. I have been able to accomplish things that were way out of my realm before. ( have to be careful not to overdue it)
The 2 main results for me this week severe fatigue is gone. Yes Im still tired. And the horrible brain fog has cleared alot. Im not loosing my glasses and teacup right in front of me.. or walking around like in a stupor.
Another result although I am not sure it is from the IV. I have had bad stomach pain for months now. I thought that I had an ulcer and discovered gastritis and hh on endoscopy. The pain after this procedure was even worse until 2 days after the IV - I feel like some sort of healing has taken place in my stomach. I'll take it.
I was not expecting this much, just thought I would build myself up a bit before going on antibiotics. So, like you I think I went from a 1 to a 6. Some of it is fading.... now....
I will try this again as the budget allows.
Let me know if you want the list of ingredients I will PM to you.
Marsy
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