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sometimesdilly
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Malarone fist time today, is really knocking me down, dizzy and nauseuous. Anyhtign help with nasau given strict diet?

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ginger and aloe tea

Use aloe juice and fresh ginger.

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For me, with Mepron, it's salt.

I know it's really wierd. I tried everything, ginger included, the other day and nothing worked. When I choked down a little salty ham for dinner with a buttery potato (for the fat content) I actually felt better.

Today I had the nausea again and remembered to try salt. The nearest thing I could grab was a tomato. I cut it in half and poured on the salt, to the point that it didn't really taste very good. I kept pouring and eating until I finished the tomato. Within minutes, the nausea stopped. [Big Grin]

I hope you're not on restricted sodium. [Smile]

Hope you feel better soon! Nausea really stinks!

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Hello dear neighbor-when minocycline wiped me out with severe nausea and dizziness I actually cut back on the dose-when I asked my(our?) LLMD how to balance treatment and Life she said only you know how much you could tolerate.

For me while I was on the mino it seemed I could lay down for a while(an hour or two) get up for a bit, then lie down again, just to get through the day.

The LLMD would have liked me to tough it out, but I just couldn't.

Will be in touch. I think I also had a slice of whole grain bread, and that helped.

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I second the recommendation of ginger, whether ginger tea in teabags, fresh ginger sliced and made into tea by adding hot water, ginger candy from health food or Asian stores, ginger syrup from health food store, etc.

It's been a lifesaver for me.

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Diet 7 up usually helps. Low carb cocoa. Sometimes digestive enzymes.

AliG - The salt makes it sound like you may have some sort of orthostatic blood pressure/blood volume thing going on. The need to lay down often that someone else mentioned *might* be related to that as well.

I'm on mino, I'll try the salt next time I feel sick to my stomach.
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sometimesdilly
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Thanks for the suggestions, fine ladies.

I'll line up fresh ginger tomorrow to give it a try. now that you mention it, i remember making ginger tea when i've had stomach flu .

i think salt might work too,Ali. when i finally just now forced myself to eat for the first time today, a piece of chicken,i found myself burying it in salt, til that's all i tasted. i'm not so nauseous at the moment. hmm.

Malorone doesn't like me sitting up, I'm slinking back back to bed- thanks again. PS-I hear what you say about balance, CArol, and couldn't agree more. I'm giving MAlorone (artisiminin gets added in next 3-4 days) every possiblity to work, because if it doesn't my LLMD says i go straight to IV's. [Frown]

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Hi Dilly,

Sorry to hear about your nausea. I have been nauseated for along time now and it brutal.

I tryed most of the natural treatments didn't help me much. But everyone's different & many people have found natural relief.

Unfortunately the only thing that helped me was phenegran . It knocks me & makes me sleep too much so I couldn't take if I need to drive. Lately low dose doxepin helps cut my nausea in 1/2.

Here's a link that may help:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=046486
*lots of good suggestions, some just didn't work for me but worked for other folks.

Hope you can feel better soon [group hug]
make sure to talk over everything first with your LLMd

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I really hope it works for you! [Big Grin]
Glad to hear you're feeling a little bit better!
[Smile]
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Take your Malarone with fatty food, like a heaping spoonful of nut butter. It helps speed up the absorption of the med, lessening the nausea.
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medically first peptobismol
second dramamine
third and strongest visteril or tigan suppositories (rx needed for both)

i used tigan in my practice after removal of wisdom teeth . the patient would not eat and take narcotics and get very nauseus. tigin is best because you don't get nausau taking it it is a suppository.

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What helped my nausea even more than ginger is papaya tablets. You can get them at most healthfood stores. When the nausea hits, chew on a couple.

I had them with me no matter where I was. I hope this helps!

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Thank you, Beachcomber!! I took my Malarone with a spoonful of almond butter an hour ago and haven't felt any nausea yet. [Smile]

Since its a good guess it'll be back, I hugely appreciate knowing what else helps. Thanks for suggesting papaya, Sammi. I think I have to wait for another week or so before I can add back any fruit to my diet, but that sounds like a good one for after that.

Sorry the nausea is bad for you, Dana-- I can't imagine having that feeling park in my body for a long time. Seems like it would add to exhaustion after a very short while. And thanks for the links-- glad you found some help too.

Stymie lymie- thanks for med suggestions. my head is spinning dizzy and none if what you listed sounds familair to me, but the more options the better, thanks!

Back to bed- Dilly

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So where did you get the almond butter in this great town of ours????

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Dilly, I am so sorry you're feeling this way. It makes it hard to get anything done, huh? A lot of very good suggestions have been given here. Ginger is a well-known anti-nausea treatment. The fresher, the better... but you can always sip some flat ginger ale in a pinch.

Also, make sure you are getting plenty of B-6 (pyridoxine)... definitely more than the RDA, but talk to your LLMD to determine the dose that's best for you.

One thing that works well for me is lemon, for whatever reason. Whether it's lemonade or sucking on hard lemon-flavored candies, there is something about it that "eases the quease". If you are feeling cravings for something in particular, give it a try. Your body could be giving you clues.

Also, I find that keeping cool helps. If I am hot, sweaty, or even just slightly warm, the queasiness is magnified intensely. A cool washcloth on your forehead and neck, a fan, a cool drink (sipped slowly)... a sexy guy fanning you with palm leaves and feeding you chilled grapes...

Another thing you can try is those "motion sickness" bands they sell OTC at stores like Wal-Mart, Target, etc, in the pharmacy section. They are little elastic-like bands you slip on your wrists, and they have a little disc on them that puts pressure on the pressure points inside your wrists. Some people absolutely swear by them.

Hope it gets better for you!!!

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AliG, I'm with you on the salt thing. I've heard that nurses use rock salt (ice cream salt) under they're tongues when they have to deal with something nasty.

My fav thing for nausea is dill pickle slices. I love really dilly Mt. Olive slices with some Twang added to make them even more dilly and salty. I think they help because they get that "nausea taste" out of my mouth.

For you non-Southerners, Twang is this stuff that comes in little packets, usually from conveince stores. It was orginally used for beer salt. Anyway, it's made from citrus with either dill flavor or lemon / lime. I think it comes in other flavors too. I order a big box directly from Twang.com. If I get nauseaous when I'm not at home, I just put a bit of that under my tongue. I add a bunch to my jar of pickels to make the super dooper dilly.

Who said Southerners are weird? [Eek!]

edit to add - I just remembered. (Not gonna swear to this, but this is what I've heard.) When you get nauseous, you produce more saliva. When you swallow all that excess saliva, that is what makes you hurl. Salt dries out your mouth.
One day I would like to know if that is medically true or an old wives' tale. Of course, old wives' had to know lots of smart things just so they coule live long enouh to be "old wives." [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by 3ktykatz:

Who said Southerners are weird? [Eek!] ....


When you get nauseous, you produce more saliva. When you swallow all that excess saliva, that is what makes you hurl. Salt dries out your mouth.


You say that like weird is a bad thing [Wink] [Big Grin]
I think a little "weird" makes people more interesting.

I've been trying (sort of) to figure out why the salt works. I thought it seemed really strange. I'll buy the drying out theory. Sounds good to me. [Smile]

I just thought of something. Maybe next time I'll try sucking on some salted lemon wedges. (Brings back memories of my younger days.)
Northerners can be weird too! [Big Grin]

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Hey Texas Chaos-

Well, I like your remedy best for sure- you know, the one where the sexy man is putting cool cloths on my head, fanning me, some nice blues are playing, and he's wearing not much, and a cool SALTY breeze is blowing in from the ocean where we are, and he's not wearing very much, and we're having a 2 month vacation with nothing to do but lay around, with him not wearing very much, and he is feeding me.. um...celery sticks??!!! HUH? Oh right, back to reality. [Smile]

Maybe lemons.

dear 3 kitty cats (only 3?! Five is when it starts to get interesting [Wink]

That's sure interesting about salt drying saliva. One of the oddest lyme symptoms I've had is the occasional tiems when I've had so much saliva in my mouth I've had to swallow again and again, and still felt like I was going to drown. Usually happenes in my sleep and it wakes me up for sure. Hmm.

Hi Ali-

Couldn't agree with you more about "weird". For me the synoynmn is - original-- or sure-of-funky-self. And thank goodness neither the north or the south or anywhere else has a monopoly- I've found these fine folk everywhere I've been.

PS Carol-neighbor- I go all the way to Towson to get almond butter- to Trader's Joe's. Word is there is a new orgnanic food coop somewhere near us, but haven't had the enrgy to track it down- yet.

Thanks again for all the suggestions!!

Dilly

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One of my favorite quotes:

If you don't think you have any nuts in your family tree, then you probably are one. [Big Grin]

Dilly,

If I get lots of saliva with nausea, I spit the darn stuff out. From my personal experience, swallowing it gets me into trouble every time.

BTW, I've had as many as eight cats before. There must be a sign over my house in cat language that says "A sucker lives here."

Ali,

There's also something (supposedly) about tannins in things like tea and olives that dry out your mouth. Don't know about that. As long as the salt/pickle thing works, I'm sticking to it.

Kitty kisses to all,
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C-Salts.

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