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hshbmom
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My dd had a blood test for H. pylori; it was postive.

The pediatric GI doctor used an blood antibody test, so dd could have an old infection.

I wondered if this test was accurate.

I may have read here that H. pylori is cross-reactive with Borrelia....is this correct?

Also, dd's celiac test, blood test, was negative and her sedimentation rate was normal.

What does the sedimentation rate indicate?

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Hi Nancy

I am also very interested to know about this.

Diagnoses of H.P. started me down the Lyme road after an incredible reaction (likely Herx) to the abx.

I have also heard and read that there is some cross referencing. I have read that some people may test +ve for Lyme when in fact they really have H.Pylori. I only assume it can go both ways.

However, I also asked Dr. S from CA, about this during my appointment. He didnt think it was normal for someone with Borrelia to falsely test positive for H.Pylori. He felt that a chronic H.Pylori infection was more likely. I thought he would know!

However, I cant find any evidence of H.Pylori causing so many symptoms outside of the GI system. I did read that they have found H.Pylori in the heart, but wonder if it can also cause more Lyme type symptoms.

So I am confused also!

Cheers
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The sed rate is a measure of inflammation in the body. Many here have LOW sed rates [some have high]. Mine is a 3.

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Yes. Sed rate measures infection. But I have had lyme for 20 years & my sed rate has also been low over the years. As low as 1-3.

Not an indication of lyme infection apparently.
I was also tested for H-plyori recently & mine was neg. I do also worry about how accurate the tests are. I know one person who tested neg on a biospy and positive on the blood test for h-pylori.

I am going to do the mastic gumm soon as I don't trust the tests for h-plori any better than I do for the generic tests for lyme.

Take care

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Interesting... I was also diagnosed with h. pylori around the same time as Lyme, but my doctor had suspected both for a while. I did not have typical stomach symptoms--mine were all gut problems.

H. pylori is incredibly common, and we are constantly re-exposed to it through contact with other people, prepared food, etc. I wonder if the high rates of infection among Lymies is not because H. pylori and Lyme really go together, but because H. pylori takes over when the gut is in disbiotic state.

My dentist recently told me that mercury kills off good stomach bacteria, allowing the bad things to multiply. There are plenty of other things that can knock your intestinal flora out of whack.

Fortunately for me, I had no problems with the prev. pack (the standard h. pylori antibiotic combo treatment) and my gut is so much better since I did the treatment.

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