dontlikeliver
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I understand it's a marker for Bartonella but also apparently a lot of other things (I don't know what those other things are, except a quick search brought up a lot of cancer stuff).
My result was more than triple the highest limit of the normal range. Normal range from 31-86.
Any idea of what it means?
Does anyone else have high VEGF?
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Found some possible explanations, none of which are that appealing. I'd go for the second or first option, Infectious disease/parasites, don't like the other options that much: (I'm still interested to know what others know and if you have a high Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor.
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Hi DLL,
I have been been having my VEGF checked regularly as part of Dr. S's neurotoxin protocol. VEGF is a hormone that tells your body to make small caplillaries to carry oxygen into the tissues.
Too much can be found in cancer patients, when the tumor is diverting blood flow to its own use. However, high levels can also be found in neurotoxin patients who have become VEGF resistent. That means that no matter how much VEGF they make, it doesn't stimulate those tiny capillaries.
The result can be shortness of breath, and extreme fatigue following the slightest exertion. The same is true, of course, for those who have very low VEGF.
For some, VEGF rebounds (or corrects) when taking cholestyramine to clear the neurotoxins. For others, the damage has gone deeper, and other protocols may be needed. The book Mold Warriors has a good chapter on VEGF. Its called "Phil Ness Can't Breathe". It tells you what to expect with VEGF problems, and how to correct them.
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Thank you.
May I ask what your number was?
So, it can be corrected/brought down? I will see if I can get a hold of that book where I live, if it's 'obscure' I may not be able to here.
Is the VEGF otherwise a test that non-LLMDs use to check for cancer and other diseases often, or do you think it is also an 'obscure test'?
What I'm wondering is if I should go to my GP and ask him what else this might mean and whether further testing is needed, or just leave it as it probably has been high for years for all I know and I'm not 'dead yet'...
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I had this testing, the result was 28 which seems to be normal, inspite of having neurolyme. Don't think I have bartonella and did not respond to questran therapy despite faiing the visual contrast test. And I don't have shortness of breath
So, not sure what your results (or mine) may mean.
The reference range given on my test was 0 -115.
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Interesting that yours had a totally different reference range.
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riversinger
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The referrence range Lou posted is Labcorp's new referrence range. It used to be that the bottom limit was somewhere around 30.
My numbers have been between 30 and 85. Dr. S likes to see it around 50. Several people I know have numbers 150 and over, as high as 200. They all have Lyme and coinfections, and all responded to the CSM. None of them, that I know of, have cancer or some of the other issues on your list. They do all have the problem with post-exertion fatigue.
Most of the other doctors I see, other than the one following the neurotoxin protocol, don't have a clue about the VEGF numbers. I don't know if your regular doctor would.
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