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May
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Hi,

Has anyone with elevated rheumatoid factor--
or general achiness--gotten relief with Cat's
Claw?

I'm considering taking Cat's Claw (heading
toward Buhner's), but I've read that you
shouldn't take it if taking an immunosuppressant
since it boosts your immune system.

I'm currently taking plaquenil, which I
believe is a mild immunosuppressant. I have
an elevated rheumatoid factor, ~80, and
a rheumatologist thinks I'm "headed" for
rheumatoid arthritis, whatever that means.

However, I also read there was a small study
done where Cat's Claw was given to RA
patients and helped relieve their symptoms.

Any info or personal experience much appreciated.
Was wondering if it lowered rheumatoid factor
for anyone.

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radiogirl
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Dear May,
One of the most important quests you could take for RA is taking a look at the material Im about to provide you.

I had a radio show in a large metroplex area and one of my guests was DR.Katherine Poehlmann on RA and auto immune diseases.She not only led me to her book and website but several other astounding books and scientists that have found RA and many autoimmune related issues to be microbial related and may improve with antibiotics.

Here are some sources for you,

www.roadback.org Dr thomas Mc pherson Brown put THOUSANDS of patients into remission living full lives after having seen under the microscope that the common thread of RA patients and more were mycoplasmas and pleomorphic bacteria.There is a very active bulletin board there.His book is a must!

Dr.Katherine Poehlmann scientist and researcher with the Rand think tank used Dr Browns antibiotic theory and reversed her wheelchair bound RA and wrote the book RA The Infection Connection with a corresponding website www.RA-infection-connection.com She also has many resources to get you started.

Just dont expect your all knowing Rheumy to go along with you.My first class rheumy didnt and my daughter and I suffered for it.I fired him and got one that practiced the protocol.

Today with thanks to the information of that show my daughter and I are much better now with an immune system becoming more active than suppressed.The roadback can sendyou a list of doctors in your area that use AP (antibiotic protocol) if you request it.

I hope this helps you as much as it has me,RG

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And don't expect Cat's Claw to remove your pain.

Are you on antibiotics? That's the best way to get rid of the bacteria you most likely have in your body. Have you been diagnosed with Lyme also?

Welcome! [Smile]

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Hi,

Thanks radiogirl! I will definitely look
at the information you gave me.

Lymetoo, sorry I didn't provide more
detail. I'm diagnosed with Lyme, have
been on antibiotics for three years. I
feel like the drugs are catching up with
with me lately and am considering the
Buhner protocol as my next step, or at
least a break from western antibiotics.

I'm not sure about the RA--how do you differentiate from lyme? But I'm concerned
about "immune boosting" things that are good
for Lyme might be bad for me
if I'm teetering on the edge of something
autoimmune. For instance I've read that
melatonin and astragalas are not recommended
if your immune system is overactive.

Just wanted to know other people's experience
with Cat's Claw and if it's okay if you have elevated rheumatoid factor and are on plaquenil.

Thanks!

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I'm not sure about the RA--how do you differentiate from lyme?

I don't know, but I do believe that "RA" has a bacterial component as well. So you mainly have to attack whatever bacteria you are dealing with.

Have you tried Rife?

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Hi May,
If you were to pose those questions on the www.roadback.org Bulletin board put it to the attention of John McDonald and Lyme and RA on the title .John is a physist who has RA and he can explain the microbial pls inflammation simply.He builds microscopes not a medical physician but OH SO smart and explains things well.

There are also quite a few lyme plus RA patients who post there too .They will surely add to the replies and be of service from many years of experience.And get the book by Henry Scammell recommended by the road back foundation and Dr.Katherine Poehlmanns. Of all the books that we helped to promote for authors at the station, These were the two most important.Hope this helps,RG

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Hi May,

I am a Lyme/RA survivor who is thriving in my treatment. I'm happy to share what I have learned with you.

First of all, RA is not a disease. It is a name given to a disorder whereby the immune system attacks itself. According to my Rheumy, "they don't know what causes it and they don't know how to cure it". So I went in search of answers myself and found many possible causes of RA some with outstanding treatment results. Overactive immune system is definitely NOT one of the causes of RA.

Lyme is one proven cause of RA.

Also:
leaky gut syndrome
infected root canals
mercury toxicity
mycoplasmas
systemic yeast

www.drmcdougall.com talks at length about the LGS cause of RA. He espouses a vegan diet and says try the diet for 2 weeks and if LGS is your cause, you will know it. I tried the diet and incurred a 50% improvement in my symptoms. I was in very bad shape at the time.

I set out to find a doctor trained in all the above. I sought 2nd opinions. Test confirmed I have Lyme, LGS, yeast, serious heavy metal toxicity, 3 infected root canals and one cavitation. My DHEA was very low.

I also found the Roadback Foundation and convinced my Rheumy to let me try low dose minocycline instead of methotrexate. This is a treatment against mycoplasmas which I have not been tested for, but it sure beat methotrexate. I knew I had Lyme and you do NOT want to suppress your immune system! Bacteria and Fungi will just go rampant. You want to strengthen it and remove whatever toxins are overloading your system.

If you would like to talk, feel free to PM me with your phone # and I will be happy to chat.

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May
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Thanks again radiogirl!

Lymetoo, I haven't tried rife
yet. My husband built a rife
machine, but didn't get much result
from it. I'll try it at some point, though.

Thanks so much for the info, luvs2ride.
I'll send a PM.

You guys are the best.

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