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BostonLyme2005
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Hi,

Do they sell this in the drug store? Have you used it at home? How did it work?

Thanks,

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Rob

For what? Thrush? I personally wouldn't. Have you tryed tea tree oil on the tongue? Works great. Just don't swallow any of it.

I would be very careful with bleach. Bleach is very toxic.

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I have found tea tree oil in health stores like GNC. (I think) I am pretty sure I got mine at Vitamin World. Also you might get it from a company from Melaleuca, which features tea tree oil as it primary product.

I used Pau D'Arco for my thrush. I put it in my water (I had it in a glycerite form.) I also rinsed my mouth with hydrogen peroxide before brushing all the surfaces of my mouth... teeth, gums, palate, inside cheeks, etc. To get the excess growth off.

I always soaked my tooth brush in hydrogen peroxide to avoid reintroducing the yeasties into my mouth.

After I got rid of the thrush, I got an outbreak of oral herpes. Treated that with aloe vera. It was gone in a day.

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The bleach/water thing is in Dr. B's gidelines and to be used only in severe cases. Not sure what constitutes severe ...

I've been told that a couple spoonfuls of no-sugar plain yogurt after you use any of the above mentioned things helps replace the good flora in your mouth.

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I have been told to use a probiotic AFTER any of the methods you use. Perhaps most of you are already doing this, but did want to mention this just incase.

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ditto on all of the above posters comments.
Opening a pro-biotic capsule on & sprinkle some on my tongue after brushing or tree tree or mouthwash has cut down my thush big time.

And also adding a tongue scraper helps me too.

Never thought of plain yogurt. Thst's a good idea.

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Are you talking about Dakin's solution for yeast in the mouth?

If so...here it is

taken from Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease..treatment Guidelines
by Joseph J. Burrascano MD

MANAGING YEAST OVERGROWTH

Many patients with weakened defenses, such as from chronic illnesses, including Lyme Disease, develop an overgrowth of yeast. This begins in the mouth and then spreads to the intestinal tract. Therefore the primary line of defense is careful oral hygiene, replenishing the beneficial bacteria by daily intake of yogurt, Kefir, and/or acidophilus, and by following a strict low carbohydrate diet.

ORAL HYGEINE: CLEANSING Brush the teeth, tongue, gums, inner cheeks and palate first with toothpaste, then again for 30 seconds while holding an antiseptic mouthwash in the mouth Then, rinse by scrubbing while holding plain water in the mouth.

TOOTHPASTE Use ``AP-24'' toothpaste, sold by NuSkin Enterprises. Unlike conventional toothpastes that may contain alcohols, formaldehydes and abrasives, this product cleans in a unique way. It contains two ``surfactants'' (detergent-like cleansers) that are very effective without being harsh. This product is available in two forms- regular and whitening (both contain fluoride). Choose either one. In addition, get from them their patented toothbrush that is designed to work with this toothpaste. It cleans better and is far gentler than regular or electric toothbrushes. Order AP-24 products by calling 1-800-487-1000. The U.S. reference # is 9256681-R

MOUTHWASHES Use an antiseptic mouthwash (Scope, Listerine, etc.), and brush the teeth, tongue, gums, cheeks and the roof of the mouth while holding the mouthwash in the mouth. Do this for 30 seconds, then rinse repeatedly with water. For especially thick or resistant thrush, the most effective (and drastic) treatment, employed as a last resort, consists of using "Dakin's Solution" as a mouth rinse. Make this by mixing one teaspoon of household liquid bleach (Clorox) in four ounces of water. A small amount is held in the mouth while brushing, then spit out, and repeated until the thrush has cleared. This is usually a one-time treatment, but may have to be repeated every few weeks. After using an antiseptic, it is necessary to immediately eat yogurt or chew an acidophilus capsule to replenish the beneficial flora in the mouth. Because the germ count, both harmful and beneficial, will be artificially reduced after such a cleaning, and because yeasts are opportunists, the yeast infection can come back. By having the yogurt or acidophilus then, the yeast will be crowded out and a more normal oral flora will result.

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