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sizzled
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*chicaboom*
Don't mess with a momma and her cubs.
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Kathleen has an excellent, excellent website at www.actionlyme.org
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Kathleen is one of the smartest people out there imo.
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up for me/others to read this week! Bettyg
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Wow. I had no idea that website existed.
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Actually, not a bad link. If this is how Kathleen delt with her issues, she would be more valuable. Unfortunatly, due to Lyme, or some other cause, she is rather mentally unstable. This makes her a very poor choice as a face for Lyme Disease.
However, it is also ignorant to ignore her obvious talents within the sciences. If you read this Kathleen, and hope to help Lyme, please, continue to speak within the sciences and let your debate be made through the mistake others make in their written papers.
Others with different talents can take the flame as it were from there. Those who can for example, make a logically scienfitic argument, based upon many of the scientific links provided by people like Kathleen.
This is not to demean Kathleen, only to be honest about the realities we face in the realm of credibility. We are not wrong. So, to make certain that the mirror of falsehood is allowed to face the correct direction, we must be very clear with our goals, and our purpose.
The purpose is such that all our enemies will lay before our feet and say: Forgive Us.
There can be no compromise with those who have stiffled science because of political interests. They are evolutionairily unfit to be given prestige in society. If they had been evolutionairly fit, entire groups of people would not be subjected to large evolutionairly driven forces from a negative manner. Unfortunatly, because this has been allowed to occur to such large groups of people, someone will eventually evolve such that the pressure is no longer sufficient to exert negative force against a given individual(s).
Because the failure was so grande, nothing less than humilation of our foes can be seen as acceptable.
Towards this end, science will lead the way. Those who beleive in science for the sake of loving Truth as it exists will find our answer. Such is the laws that govern evolution in nature.
Selective pressure is placed upon a rather large, diverse, group of people. This pressure is not relieved by society due to ignorance. The laws of nature demand either 1 of 2 things will happen. We will all be unimportant, evolutionairily speaking. Or, the pressure becomes so great, that someone, somewhere, evoles to meet the pressure with a new "tool" as it were. This is survival of the fittest. Currently, we have fought using a set paradigm of defenses. Clearly, we have not won yet. Evolution demands we win, loose, or form some kind of compromise. I propose that currently, we are loosing. I also propose that it is enevitable we will win, without compromise, because the greater wrong is done by allowing the innoscent to suffer.
Hold on, the fight will be over. Not today, nor tomorrow, but soon.
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dontlikeliver
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There you are, Lymescience! We've been wondering where you have been hiding. We've had a couple of threads recently 'paging' you. Good to see you back and good post.
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Sorry that I've been gone so long. It certainly is a welcome suprise to be missed. It is also a good feeling to be back and posting.
I don't know how often I'll be posting, but I will be posting.
People need help, and this is where they come to find answers. Its my obligation to try and provide assistance when I can, and where I can.
We must all prop each other up, evolutionairily speaking, because collectivly, we are much stronger than we are alone.
I have thought in great depth in my absence regarding the exact nature of the problem. While, this is not the thread an explanation of any conclusions I have made, suffice to say that one such conclusion is unavoidable. We must do two things, 1 choose which side we are on, 2, resolve the differences we have, quickly, and pool our resources together such that the individual talents are utalized and spread out among us.
The pressure exerted by evolution on us has been great. We must evolve or perish, there are no other options.
Our enemy uses the strategy I'm suggesting: both Steere and the bacteria use a similar strategy. The understanding of evolution.
Alone, our impact upon nature can only be so great. Consider for example the phenomina of global warming. This is a natural occurance in the timeline of earth. However, when humans acheived a certain combined effort, a quarum, they were able to influence the dynamics of that equation for climatic change which had already existed. ALso, we exerted a pressure towards one side of the equation such that we forced evolution on an entire planet. But, we didn't have this ability until a certain level of co-operation was reached. Now, this is an example, negativly speaking of what can occur when humans co-ordinate their talents against the pressure exerted by other forces in the process of evolution.
Why then, have we not done the same thing, except for a cause that is just? If bacteria within us know that only a quarum will allow them to survive, are we not more intelligent than bacteria?
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Bravo, Lymescience! And good to see you here again.
We need to come together around all this, that is for sure. Check out the "war on our hands" thread...
Kathleen is a major resource for information -- she has done a ton of research and understands the science of all of this very well --- (she has also been the target of tons of harrassment.)
I too think we need to pool together our resources -- all we can find -- and mount a major argument against those who are obscuring a rather obvious scientific truth.
I think about this stuff a lot, too.
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I consider Kathleen a hero. She focuses attention on the underlying problems and solutions.
One thing I think will be helpful is the darkfield microscope. It is apparently not so difficult to make one as you can see at www.lyme-diagnosis.org.uk
It is personally upsetting that the government does not recognize it's own mistakes and try to rectify them.
I just read that the military will resume mandatory anthrax vaccine for some troops within 60 days. Some of the safety issues are addressed at www.gulfwarvets.com/issues.htm
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I went to Brian's link to read Kathleen's info, but I had problems.
There was advertising links OVER her stuff so I couldn't read from left - right and see every word posted .
Anyone have any ideas why I got other stuff on top of text OR WHAT I CAN DO TO ELIMINATE IT so I can read more of Kathleen's work? Thank you to anyon e? Bettyg
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Betty, you can read Kathleen's stuff right on her website www.actionlyme.org
She does have some very good stuff on there and knows her scientific stuff, however, I think some of what is one there would be better off left out of 'the Lyme cause' as it is nothing to do with Lyme but goes off on a tangent.
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It takes ENOUGH Mg and Ca to make HEALTHY, not damaged ANTIBODIES (fab portion of the antibody...located at the top is damaged if Mg or Ca are not available). Fact. Mdschoice website describing the functions of Mg - linked below.
Damaged antibodies don't work. Common sense.
Likely damaged antibodies aren't "measured" either. (This is what the Western Blot measures.)
Mg levels drop "significantly" at the OUTSET of lyme. Fact. Romanian abstract.
Our own antibodies are not "perfect" fighters against Bb, why?
"Characterization of the physiological requirements for the bactericidal effects of a monoclonal antibody to OspB of
Borrelia burgdorferi
by confocal microscopy.
The bactericidal effect of Fab-CB2 is not dependent on the induction of spirochetal proteases but
is dependent on the presence of Ca2+ and Mg2+.
***Supplementation of Ca2(+)- and Mg2(+)-free medium with these cations restored the bactericidal effects of Fab-CB2.***
The mechanism by which a Fab fragment of an antibody destroys a bacterium directly may represent a novel form of antibody-organism interaction."
PMID: 9125579
A ``novel form of antibody-organism interaction?'' I don't THINK so!
"E. Required by immunological process. Magnesium, immunity, and allergy: Mg is required for several steps of immunological reactions
1. Lymphoblastic transformation, a prerequisite of secretion of antibodies by lymphoblasts, requires Ca2+ and Mg2+
2. Mg is required for synthesis of proteins, immunoglobulins included
3. Antibody-induced complement activation is Mg dependent
4. The antigen-immunoglobulin-complement reaction induces degranulation of the mastocyte
This may be the key...restore OUR OWN HIGHLY TARGETED ANTIBODIES. Especially if Bb is resistant to H2O2 and Superoxide via using OUR antioxidant enzymes as protection.
Geeze Louise !
"Klempner's Matrix-Metalloproteinases in the spinal fluid of Lyme patients which he thinks are contributing to the dementia"
Fact: A drop in choline acetyltransferase causes dementia.
Duh. Bb uses C-acetyltransferase. It does NOT use N-acetyltransferase which is one of two enzymes needed to convert serotonin to melatonin.
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Lyme Disease Activist Told To Stop Judge Offers To Let Charges Drop October 5, 2005 By HILDA MU�OZ, Courant Staff Writer NEW BRITAIN -- A 47-year-old woman accused of threatening an assistant attorney general may have harassment charges against her dropped if she stops barraging state officials with information about Lyme disease.
Superior Court Judge Patrick Clifford said Tuesday that Kathleen Dickson's criminal case will end if she discontinues a massive e-mail and fax campaign detailing her complaints about the scientific community's approach to fighting Lyme disease.
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"I'm willing to let my activist friends take over," Dickson said.
In 2003, the Department of Children and Families removed Dickson's children from her custody because the department contended that she was
spending so much time campaigning for changes in Lyme disease care that
she neglected their needs, Dickson said. Dickson and her children have Lyme disease.
Dickson went to court to regain custody, but Assistant Attorney General
Jessica Gauvin successfully argued that the children should be in the custody of Dickson's ex-husband.
Dickson was arrested in 2004 after allegedly deluging Gauvin with insulting and threatening e-mails. She was charged with two counts of second-degree harassment and one count of second-degree threatening and
was granted accelerated rehabilitation, a special form of probation.
Gauvin told police that she had received approximately 600 e-mails, one
of which said, "IF ANY HARM comes to my children, Jessica Gauvin could get the death penalty and I will never let up. ..."
Dickson is also accused of mailing Gauvin a package of information that
included a map with directions to Gauvin's home, according to an arrest
affidavit.
Dickson claimed Gauvin lied during the custody hearing and lied to police about the e-mails.
One of the conditions of Dickson's probation was that she was to show her probation officer any e-mails or faxes to state agencies before she
sent them out. But she violated that condition by faxing hundreds of pages on Lyme disease to the chief state's attorney's office and the attorney general's office, Deputy Assistant State's Attorney Brett Salafia said.
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This is the last person we need. The media would have a field day if we had a spokesperson who made death threats and spent time in a prison and mental hospital. ------------------------------------
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There after her for no other reasons than that she is right!
All these charges are trumped up by real powerful people they have harrassed her from the start and it hasnt stopped because she is publishing via internet the truth.
I just wish she could control her tounge in the way she delivers the truth even though she's right.
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Amen Incredibly brilliant scientist who has terrible lyme brain and she is very angry about the way she has been treated.
Her lyme and her intellect regarding infectious disease, limrex, and knowing all the players has landed her in a pickle.
She figured out exactly why we are not getting the care we all need, she tried telling everyone, nobody believed her and said she was crazy...a combination of her inappropriate behavior due to lyme and what she was accusing people in high places of ---has gotten her in deep doo doo.
I wish someone from hollywood would write a screenplay about her. It would illuminate much about what went on at Yale and how being a whistle blower is dangerous.
I do believe that if she could have toned it all down and her brain was well, she would be at the forefront of this desperate cause--due to her scientific expertise.
(Ah, there by the grace of God go I)
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quote:She seems very mentally unstable to me.
FYI, Griff, this is how women get when people start taking their children away from them.
Probably it's hard for you to relate to this, after spending so much time over on Sci.med where bashing Kathleen seems to be the main point of their existence.
Personally, I applaud her.
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I don't know about having children taking away, but I read some reports and documents she posted on that website of hers and it seems to me she is not fit to be a mother. She admitted to be suffering from Schizophrenia is previous usenet postings from years ago, I think her problem goes way beyond Lyme disease.
Does anyone know why she is going on about Pat Smith and the LDA now? I just read a recent post from her on it. Why is she attacking Mrs Smith? She has done so much work in the name of lyme disease.
"If Pat Smith an ILADS don't cut the crap, THEY'RE the ones who are going to get nailed for racketeering"
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I would bet the majority of articles on Kathleen's site are true.I agree with the others on here.We are getting the shaft,and she knew it was coming a few years ago.And i believed this day would come also.
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I did find many articles very informative on her site, though it tends to ramble into to much politics and other subjects I can't really follow.
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