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For the past 3 months or so I have had pain on the bottom of my foot(only in one foot)and mostly when I get up in the morning. Someone said it may be a neurological condition, like periphial neuropathy, since it is only on one side, but I have also seen posts relating it to Lyme. Any thoughts?
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This can be a symptom of Bartonella, in fact I've been told it is a classic Bart symptom. I have it also, on the bottoms of both feet. Have you been tested for Bart?
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bartonella.
Dont have any links with me, but do a search for bart on this site---it is typically related to foot pain especially in the am.
take care.
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I have this-if you have lyme
its a good idea to talk to your LLMD about possible bart
Is bart a co-infection of Lyme? I am positive Lyme and I'm pretty sure Babesia also but didn't test positive for other co's. Is Bart done as a matter of course when the other co-infection's are tested or do you have to ask for it? Also, I've had Lyme for 15 years and this symptom only developed a few months ago.
Okay, I just read up on it and I am confused. I have all the symptoms: foot pain, sore throats, fevers, etc. But ... how could I suddenly develop this after I have had Lyme for 15 years and have not had these particular symptoms??? Very curious.
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Yes, Bart is a co-infection common in Lyme patients. I think it really depends on the physician as to whether it's a standard test - I know for my LLMD it definitely is.
Also, my sister, who has had Lyme her whole life, only developed a Bart rash within the past few months, so it can definitely be latent for a long time. I am the same, my case of Lyme is most likely congenital and my symptoms showed up after my Lyme symptoms got active.
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Hi Sadie420
In my opinion and I have read that the tests for the co's can be as inaccurate as the tests for lyme. Although a positive test can highly diagnostic.
Some treat by clinical diagnosis & symptoms much like lyme too.
This would be an indvidual call on the part of your treating MD.
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here's the link to a thread - some helpful suggestions- foot pain & bart:
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Thanks all for your thoughts. I am not doing abx tx. so it's not that. I am wondering if I should see an orthopedic doc just to rule out something else that might be going on. Did anyone do this? I plan to get tested for Bart as well.
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I had pain in both feet for over a year a few years before lyme diagnosis. Of course back pain so my veternarian suggested I see chiro. Went chiro said instantly you have something wrong with feet.
He made appointment with a podiatrist for me 3 weeks way. Weekend before podiatry appointment both arches literally POPPED.
Collapsed on inside ankle....crippled since then. Did braces (afos) for two years...sucked and ruined back. I did have one foot reconstucted last year but still having mega problems with back, and of course right foot isn't stable...still on inside of ankle.
Suggestion: Get to a podiatrist to get an evaluation...maybe need orthodic which may SAVE your ablity to walk.
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I saw a podiatrist a few days ago. He is the one who strongly advised me to see either an orthro or neurologist. He said my problem was not one a podiatrist would handle.
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I saw an orthopedic doc. He said it was Plantar Fasciitis. Recommended heel gels and physical therapy. Bought the gels, don't notice much difference. Hesitant to start the PT. Anyone notice any difference by doing so?
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I haven't done PT but did the orthodics, gel inserts ect.. found no significant improvements.
Although I have a friend who has PF & sleeps with a foot brace on & has some relief.
I would like to go back & treat for bart but can not at this time.
Many LL'S are finding thru reasearch that if you have lyme theres a really good chance you have bart. Bart now being one of the most common of the co-infections.
Again, the tests for the co-infections are iffy at best. Most LL'S will treat by a clinical diagnosis. You do not have to have ALL the bart symtoms to have bart.
Good luck and hope you cn find some relief soon, Foot pain is really a horrible symptom to have
none of this is medical advice,just my personal opinion
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Why are you hesitant about PT? Are you scared it will cause harm, or is it the money?
My feeling with PT is that it's all about the therapist you find. I stay away from the big chains that have one therapist working with 3 patients at a time.
I think you should have a therapist next to you the entire time, except when you are iceing or heating. The therapist should watch you do exercises to make sure you are doing them correctly.
Are you by any chance on cipro or levaquin? They can cause tendon damage.
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quote:Why are you hesitant about PT? Are you scared it will cause harm, or is it the money?
Yes, the money, but also the time. I just went through months of PT for a torn rotator cuff and find I can do the same exercises at home. If, however, someone had good results from PT for this type of foot pain, I would give it a try, or at least see if their tx method could also be emulated at home.
I don't take abx, so not related to that.
Interestingly,I asked the ortho doc what caused plantar fashiitis. His reply:
"people who are overweight (which I'm not)or people who have a definite injury to the foot (which I did not), all other cases, we have no idea."
This particular doc rolls his eyes whenever I mention Lyme as he thinks 14 days of Doxy and everyone is automatically cured.
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Sadie - I also have plantar faciaitis in only one foot, and found that doing the proper calf muscle stretch first thing in the morning really solves the problem. Stand facing a wall about arms lenght away, and place your hands on the wall. Step backwards with the leg you want to stretch, toes pointed slightly inward and put your heel down - feel the stretch in your calf. Leg must be straight. If the stretch is too much you should move your foot up closer. It's VERY important to hold this stretch for a full 30 seconds. You should then do the other leg, even though you only have it in one foot; most people have it in both and you are likely susceptible, so stretch both legs as a preventative. You can then do the stretch a total of 3 times for each leg, but I must confess, I only do it the one time in the morning, and as long as I do the full 30 seconds - no cheating - it does the trick.
My doctor had me using orthotics - very uncomfortable, no inprovement, had to wear ugly "sensible" shoes. I wore a brace at night for a year and that really did help, but the calf stretch, when done properly is all I use now, and I can wear any shoes I want without pain.
Good luck to you! Rebecca
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I already started doing this on my own a few days ago. It is a great stretch for Sciatica as well. So you didn't do any PT then? Good to hear this worked so well.
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Sadie,
Lyme causes PF. A nurse in my LLMD's office thought I was developping it at one point.
You might want to consider 1 or 2 sessions with a PT to learn what stretches to do and how to do them.
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