Topic: arteminisin working for babs or just giving terrible headaches?
clairenotes
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I always get terrible headaches when I amp upthe arteminisin. Can only take about 800mg per day. My head feelings like it is ballooning out in certain areas. But I sleep(?!). Then when I stop arte I feel good for a week or so...really good. Then bad again. Taking with a penincillin type of remedy. Taking arteminisin for possible babs.
Maybe it is just roughing things up without actually doing anything?
Also... does arte do anything alone?
Trying to understand. All of my symptoms are literally in my head (and cerebral spinalfluid). No other symptoms.
Thanks... Claire
Also... can't find the way to double-space this
Posts: 1111 | From Colorado | Registered: Oct 2006
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Clair, I have babs and have been taking Core Artemisia Blend by Energetix for about 3 weeks. I take 30 drops in am and 30 drops pm and have noticed a huge reduction in my bad headaches but a new mild headache ( that I don't have to take anything for ---yeah!) I am thrilled with this result, as I was taking advil every day. Now, just a little peppermint oil on my forehead and temples and I am good to go. This blend has other things in it like black Walnut, pumpkin seed,senna, tansy, papaya, tumeric, clove oil, garlic and pomegranate. Most of these other ingredients are anti-parasite. Hope this helps, Walking in Victory
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NP40
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Claire, babs is notorious for migraines,head swelling, sounds like herxing to me. Plus ! 800mg p-day ! Has NASA called to retrieve your head yet ?
Look, normal babs treatment combines art, and mepron and zith, but the art is at 300mg p-day.
Hey, everyone reads this board and they know Doc K. recommends 1500mg of art p-day for 3 DAYS ! But, he's a doc, if he's handled your treatment before, THEN he recommends it !
Art works, they use if for malaria, careful, K ?
Babs is not malaria, it's protozoan in nature like the big M, but it's not ! It's powerful, herx to the chandiliers !
I'm guessing you have a LLMD to oversee all this ? "To error his human, to herx is to know life" !
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Michelle M
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Sure sounds famiilar to me.
I did Art, Mepron, and Zith.
Like to exploded my head.
But then it began to taper down.
Miraculously.
The trick is to NOT stop too soon.
I was on two 100-mg. pills three times a day, or 600 mg a day total, for babesia WA1.
Hurtful, hurtful stuff.
It does get better. You just gotta kill, kill, kill! But don't kill yourself in the process. Check with your doc; many docs will cut you a break or lower dosage and perhaps give you a prescription for Relpax or another head-easer.. I know what you mean as my symptoms are similarly almost entirely in my head too.
Feel better soon.
Michelle
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I have some major stomach problems with the Art (hallucinate with the mepron) so i take it once or twice a week the headaches are better.
Michelle do you get any pressure in your temple areas or is that better for you
mags
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clairenotes
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Thanks so much for everyone's reply. Soooo appreciated.
I had to make some decisions before these replies came in, which ultimately was to listen to my intuition that said "don't substitute one major medical condition for another." This was especially in light of some memory loss that began to occur. I stopped the arteminisin. After reading your posts, it appears now that it was a wise decision, and that the dose was way too high (for me).
Have since started the salt/c with some very immediate and positive results. Still take an anti-bacterial remedy based on pennicillin, in homeopathic form that has been very useful for keeping other things in check, except for the babs. Have not taken anti-biotics yet as I was trying to see if I could not possibly get this cleared through natural means first. Anti-biotics are my plan B.
Walking in Victory -- thanks so much for the information on Core Artemesia. Sounds almost gentle and nice. Perhaps successful treatment depends on the formulation. Also, I did order some essential oils recently after reading some of Farah's threads with a lot of interest. Very glad to hear these are helping you.
NP40 -- Hearing about the migraines and head swelling as key babs symptoms was also really helpful. I had been trying to glean information about that without success. The newbie links helped but there is a lot of cross-over with Lyme and other co-infections so it is difficult to sort out what is what. Thankfully, NASA did not have to be called in. Have not seen an LLMD yet. My diagnosis has been made through a process of elimination (long story) and through bioresonant testing with biofeedback system (similar to Dr. K's, maybe). Through that, the picture is fairly clear. Strong indicators for a spirochete infection, Q fever, and malaria (probably picking up babs).
Michelle M -- Thank you for the encouragement. I did try to imagine these guys dying horrible deaths with the pain... but this 'no pain, no gain,' idea just didn't win out... too intense! Again, I think it was in the dosage. Hope your daughter is doing well. I had some ideas I wanted to PM you, but wanted to clarify something with someone next week first to make sure that what I have is appropriate and/or accurate.
Mag -- Have temple pain, also.
Claire Posts: 1111 | From Colorado | Registered: Oct 2006
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groovy2
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Hi All
Google -- WHO Artemisinin --
Tons of good info -
Killer migrains are a common symptom of Babs--
When first treating the migrains can get worse-- They will lessen after some time--
Going threw the extria pain is worth it-- Now Im Migrane Free- --Jay--
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