Many experts agree ALS is the result of long term untreated Lyme. I am sure the link has to do with biowarfare or just fighting in bush loaded with ticks. Gulf war syndrome has to be lyme or something with identical symptoms.
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quote:Originally posted by duke77: Gulf war syndrome has to be lyme or something with identical symptoms.
I agree. I was discussing this with friends the other day and they wondered if maybe the troops were given the Lymerix vaccine. What do you think??? Was it available at that time?
on a similar note: Seems an awful lot of golfers are getting ALS.
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quote:RISK FACTORS
"This is where the next step in the research needs to go -- to look and try to identify what might be the characteristics of military service that could put people at risk," Christina Wolfson, a panel member and professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at McGill University in Montreal, said in an interview.
"It could be a multitude of small triggers, and it's only when they all come together in the same individual who may be genetically susceptible that they will cause disease," Wolfson added. "It might be in the war environment or a military environment, there may be a higher probably of all those things coming together."
Yep! Sounds like a real possibility to me!
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The people who have done the most work on behalf of the troops(Gulf War Vets) ,are Dr.s Garth and Nancy Nicolson.
They have written a book you can sample at www.projectdaylily.com. For those with CFS/FM or other autoimmune disease can look at the website www.immed.org and take a look at the clinical papers as well as treatment considerations.
Vaccines to close together plus mycoplasma infections related to biowarfare spelled disaster for our vets and their families.
My next door neighbor is a vet and he is in terrible shape and has been for years.He refuses to take a look at the Nicolsons site preferring instead to drink away the pain.
He calls his first drink ...going to the doctor The second drink he calls ....gettin a shot His third drink is gettin a transfusion and so on.
Cant say that I cant relate in some way.If I thought drinking would help I would have tried that already.RG
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Most of the Gulf War Vets have mycoplasma infections. I think it is that infection that is causing their ALS symptoms.
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Yes,
Many of the service personell who came back with "gulf war syndrome" were given doxycicline by the army in the 90's...
Mysteriously that program was dropped approx one year into the study.??
It's my contention that either the troops developed lyme disease due to tick infestation in basic training.
OR
This is indeed a bioweapon utilized by the forces they fought. This is an ideal bioweapon because it does'nt kill outright but slowly incapacitates it's victims rendering them ineffective. It's slow action is a type of stealth technique so as not to raise the specter of biological weaponery...and thus keeps the world in a confused state and hinders reaction.
Why else do the enemies strongly believe that we(american forces abroad) and folks at home will become apathetic about the war against terror etc.
If, as I suspect, we (the U.S.) has already been attacked biologically. This may be the reason for the nationwide epidemic of lyme and coinfections.
And may explain the seemingly incredulous epidemic of school shootings,sexual perversions,crime in general and what the elected officials deem as apathy when it comes to voting.
OF course...disgust for WHO we have to vote for could also be the real reason for not showing up at the polls.
This could have been the "mother of all armies" sadam referred to in his rhetoric.
Of course this is all speculation...
I do recall seeing something on PBS channel which dealt with a biological weapon developed which was very nearly or exactly what we're all suffering from...given it's many strains and co-infections.
It could very well be as simple as urban sprawl...to the suburbs...infringing on the wild domain.
Until we get enough money to research this disease we won't get enough answers.
The hold up could very well be big gov't because they don't want to ultimately be blamed for the development of and selling of a genetically engineered disease.
Some day this will all come out...like on the science channel...like a UFO or something....LOL
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quote: If, as I suspect, we (the U.S.) has already been attacked biologically. This may be the reason for the nationwide epidemic of lyme and coinfections.
This is my speculation from my conspiracy mind but I agree. The gulf war was strange; as soon as they saw the american soldiers they surrendered. It was like they wanted us to get closer, oh you win now go home with what we gave you. I am not sure of the organism whether spirochete or mycoplasma but the symptoms mirror Lyme. My money would be on mycoplasma. It is a slow bioweapon but it wouldn't be too effective if it wasn't easily transmittable to the US population. Sometimes I wonder if that is why the US went after Iraq and captured Saddam. To try and and beat a remedy out of him. Because if it was Biowarfare even a maniac would not release it without a cure.
quote: Why else do the enemies strongly believe that we(american forces abroad) and folks at home will become apathetic about the war against terror etc.
What doesn't make sense is if the US government is aware of this biowarfare why don't they tell the people what happened. It would surely fuel the fire for revenge and people would be more apt to back Bush in his war views.
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Now cavey...
I understand your chortles...but the duke might not!
Hey Duke....they won't tell the american people about what has been released on them for at least two reasons.
One is mass panic.....
The other is because we (the usa at plum or detrick or wherever) probably developed the bioweapon in the first place and sold it to saddam....
that's kinda how we knew he had them(somewhere)! That's why the govt isn't telling all it knows.
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Our soldiers go to some pretty warm places...and our boot camps (many) are located in warm climates.
Look at this in the news yesterday:
Diseases Appear on Rise With Temperature
By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent
Tue Nov 14
Now...for a long time, I thought it was melatonin alone that is the "helping hormone".
Guess what...melatonin (acidic) causes a drop in body temperature (cold is alkaline). They are directly related. More melatonin = lower body temperature.
This COMBINATION raises the pH...
GET ALKALINE...use every way possible.
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OK OK,
Cavey...I'm just ramping up...hang in there. I'm sure someone around here will tork my bobber!
Although I don't see a lot of under the bridge folk around here lately....
Hey is anyone going to go to the protest from Florida??
I need a ride!
zman
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