I am getting ready to have my gallbladder removed(gallstones, murphys, cholelithiasis, liver @ 3x's the norm...) just fancy words for... OUCH!!!
I was told to keep track of my body temp just in case i spiked a fever( i should then go back to E.R.) the lows are consistantly in the 94 range with the high being 97.2... does this mean i actually have a fever @ 97? because if one uses the same method to measure a fever for a "normal" person, than that would put me at about 101 for my high? (does this make sense?)
my pulse is down to 33 @ times, averaging 42.
I have babs with the lyme(and neuro) and am alergic to mepron so i havent treated babs for over a year. I was just told the gall HAS to be plucked and i cant go on any more I.M. or I.V. until after the surgery!!!
I already feel the effects of no longer having any concept of the english language, and no one makes sense to me... just wondering, is there a "to low" for body temp? As there is a to high...
other than frozen dead!(which isn't to far off from how i feel)
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I'd like to know. My daughter hovers in the 95-97 range. She has bart.
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quote:Originally posted by theviewfromthecurb: ok, this seems a little extreme.
I am getting ready to have my gallbladder removed(gallstones, murphys, cholelithiasis, liver @ 3x's the norm...) just fancy words for... OUCH!!!
I was told to keep track of my body temp just in case i spiked a fever( i should then go back to E.R.) the lows are consistantly in the 94 range with the high being 97.2... does this mean i actually have a fever @ 97? because if one uses the same method to measure a fever for a "normal" person, than that would put me at about 101 for my high? (does this make sense?)
my pulse is down to 33 @ times, averaging 42.
I have babs with the lyme(and neuro) and am alergic to mepron so i havent treated babs for over a year. I was just told the gall HAS to be plucked and i cant go on any more I.M. or I.V. until after the surgery!!!
I already feel the effects of no longer having any concept of the english language, and no one makes sense to me... just wondering, is there a "to low" for body temp? As there is a to high...
other than frozen dead!(which isn't to far off from how i feel)
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Hey, View from the curb, I have the same concerns with body temp which runs very low then norm seems to be 97.
I have been running a temp of 100.1 - 101.3 what would the "real" temp. be read as? Very confused with numbers, if anyone knows please let us know. Also have the chills and sweats so something is going on.
So sorry I copied your posting was trying to quote part of yours...duh..just one of those nites.
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Hey, View from the curb, I have the same concerns with body temp which runs very low then norm seems to be 97.
I have been running a temp of 100.1 - 101.3 what would the "real" temp. be read as? Very confused with numbers, if anyone knows please let us know. Also have the chills and sweats so something is going on.
So sorry I copied your posting was trying to quote part of yours...duh..just one of those nites.
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Please take care of yourself. Normally I would never suggest surgery for anyone, but in your case it sounds like you don't have much choice.
An ER doc would not consider you to have a fever unless it is at least 99 -- at least that is my opinion.
My Tabers Medical Dictionary says hypothermia occurs with temps below 95. Mild hypothermia is from 90-95. That might explain your extremely low pulse rates. Be sure to bundle up as 85% of heat loss is through the skin.
If I was you I would write down your temps and take that with you to give to the docs when you have the surgery done. They need to be aware of your normal low temp and fluctuations.
A normal oral temp is considered to be 97.5 to 99.5 and daily fluctuations for most people are 1 to 2 degrees.
Hope you are feeling better soon. Hubby is also allergic to Mepron. You might want to consider using quinine for the babs instead.
Kelmo,
Body temperature is controlled by the hypothalamus primarily. Hubby has been told by some alternative medicine docs that many enzymatic systems in the body will not work if the body temp is too low (don't have a number).
A couple of docs wanted to put hubby on T3 thyroid hormone to try to raise his temp but we didn't feel that was the way to go. His temp is usually 97 or so. Does take a small dose of Armour thyroid.
Bea Seibert
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My body temp usually is around 96.5 at highest. When it is taken at PCP's and other docs' offices I generally get the same from nurses, "Well, you have no fever."
I have tried to tell medical personnel this and they usually shrug and do not mention low body temp in my med. notes.
I think this is important information but no one has ever been able to explain it to me.
I once had a fever of about 101 and I really thought I was going to die. Turns out I had pneumonia and required a week's hospital stay. That was back in the 1980's so this temp. thing has been going on for quite a while.
Anyone know what causes low body temp? I also have sweats and chills.
Thanks! Janet
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you know i have wondered the same thing as well. My temperature before lyme used to run high about 99. Once I started to get really sick my temp started dropping.
I have bart, erch, and babs-lucky me- and it seems like everytime I get my temp taken it's different.
For the last two years it's gone down increasingly to now 96.4.
My question is if "normal" temperature is 98.6 is that still normal for me? That is the temperature we function best at-so in theory getting back up there would be good?
Obviously, if my tempurture is "normal" 98.6 then I would feel warmer than normally-BUT i shouldn't be alarmed because that's where i want my temp to be at.
Does this make any sense?
Basically if I had above a "normal" temp then I should be concerned because that wouldn't be normal. Even though I might feel really warm at a normal temp-that doesn't mean I really have the equivlant to x degree's higher-right?
Thanks, Lindsay
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I just had my gallblatter removed. I didn't really have a choice, my LLMD said I needed it out despite the risk.
I had a gallstone and it was better to have it taken out in a planned surgery then risk another hospitaliztion for massive pain.
Basically, I recovered and was up and walking within two days-but I am also young and I had just started IV therapy and was walking 4-6 miles a day.
I wanted to get my body in GREAT shape before the surgery-and I really think that is why I heald so well.
I will say it was 2 months before I really started to feel "normal" inside-I mean I could feel something in my abdomon wasn't right-and i could feel the stitches.
I am also extremely sensitive to everything-so maybe it won't be the same for you-but I was completely against doing the surgery.
I had just had my central port catheter put in a month prior (unknown gallstones at the point), and I really didn't feel that removing an organ was the nessacery thing to do.
however, after several medical opinions and researching alternative therapies-I decided I could spend my life stressing over getting a potential attack and deal with it when it happened
or I could have the surgery and deal with the consequences of that afterward. Unforchunetly, there is really no good solution and there is major risk either way, but atleast now I don;t have the stress or pain of the gallstones.
forchunetly, for me I also had no complications in my surgery-but I will say that is my fifth major surgery (i am 22) and it was probably one of the easiest to heal from.
Good luck
Lindsay
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Have any of your docs done a full thyroid panel?
Low temperature and a slow heart beat could be indicative of hypothyroidism.
Lyme patients are prone to developing thryoid problems, dysregulation of the immune system among other things.
Untreated hypothyoridsm can make recovery from surgery difficult. So ask your doc when he last checked the thyorid panel: TSH, T4, T3, free T4 and free T3.
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With cold, there are less oxygen demands on the body. This is why people who fall thru the ice and are under water for long time without oxygen, can still be brought back to life.
Cold is alkaline.
The combo. of cold + melatonin (acidic - being overproduced) would theoretically raise your pH - make you more alkaline to counter so friggin much TNF alpha (ouch).
Hydrogen INactivates PFK (brakes on the glycolysis- sugar for energy pathway), so the more hydrogen we have OUTSIDE the cells (alkaline), the healthier we are. We are supposed to be slightly alkaline.
Metabolic acidosis is when there is too little hydrogen OUTSIDE the cells and too much stuck INSIDE the cells.
Your body is in a PROTECTIVE mode...very.
The amt. of circulating melatonin is DIRECTLY related to the drop in our body temperature.
During sleep, we get colder...our body temperature drops.
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It's my understanding that surgery is dangerous while in lyme treatment for several reasons:
First, surgery if you are "heathly" is risky, but if your body is already fighting a disease it's even riskier.
Think about it, your body is weak, your immune system is compromised and trying to recover from a major surgery when your body is not functioning at it's best is not ideal.
Secondly, any time you are opening up your body you are risking additional bacterial infections. Removal of an organ can be especially dangerous because there's a huge risk for bacteria infection which can cause serious complications.
Because surgery is done so often in the states we tend to forget that it's a BIG deal. Surgery should always be the last resort and not the first choice. Every day people die from surgery for several different reasons. Any time you are "knocked" out you are risking not waking up. It's very dangerous and although it's been perfected with technology is certainly doesn't gaurentee you anything.
I hope this help you understand the concerns with surgery and why it's not reccommended for lymies or anyone else with infection.
Lindsay
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My endocrinologist keeps increasing the synthroid I take for Hypothyroidism. It took quite a few years to get this diagnosis.
My PCP did occasional tests but they weren't the sensitive kind. My Endo gave me samples for a higher dose synthroid to be taken every other day with my current dose. I have been taking the higher dose EVERY day and have been feeling better.
At next appt. in Dec. I will be curious to see if body temp is increased.
Janet
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