tdtid
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I'm looking for cooking suggestions on the lyme yeast diet.
Allergy tests indicate things like wheat or gluton, along with Cow's Milk were out, even before I was diagnosed with lyme.
So, for Lyme / on antibiotics the primary rules seem to be no sugar, no fruit and no starch (bread, potatoes, etc.).
That means meat /poultry/ fish and fresh vegetables are the mainstays.
The real challenge is learning to cook under the new guidelines and keeping it from getting dramatically boring. So, any suggestions?
Pointers to suitable recipes? The easier the better.
Also, what about all the in between things. Fat for example. Biggest question there is Mayonaise. It's egg based but fatty so it should be OK from a non-yeast point of view.
Avoiding ham because we think it counts as "processed". Is that correct? What about cheeses? Cottage Cheese?
Fairly high fat but otherwise they sound OK (less the milk issue).
I'm assuming (or hoping) that tomatoes are OK (not sweetened sauces but diced in an omelette, etc). How about starchy vegetables like corn?
How do avocado's fit into this equation? Any suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated.
Cathy
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I pretty much fashioned my candida diet on their recommendations and it works wonders!
I would definitely stay away from all things with sugar, wheat, preservatives, and dairy to start with. It seems like a lot at first but it's the best thing I ever did for my health and I wouldn't go back for anything!!
Check out the food lists/recommendations and recipes on that site and I'm sure you'll find it helpful!
Good luck,
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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I pretty much fashioned my candida diet on their recommendations and it works wonders!
I would definitely stay away from all things with sugar, wheat, preservatives, and dairy to start with. It seems like a lot at first but it's the best thing I ever did for my health and I wouldn't go back for anything!!
Check out the food lists/recommendations and recipes on that site and I'm sure you'll find it helpful!
Good luck,
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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I pretty much fashioned my candida diet on their recommendations and it works wonders!
I would definitely stay away from all things with sugar, wheat, preservatives, and dairy to start with. It seems like a lot at first but it's the best thing I ever did for my health and I wouldn't go back for anything!!
Check out the food lists/recommendations and recipes on that site and I'm sure you'll find it helpful!
Good luck,
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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I pretty much fashioned my candida diet on their recommendations and it works wonders!
I would definitely stay away from all things with sugar, wheat, preservatives, and dairy to start with. It seems like a lot at first but it's the best thing I ever did for my health and I wouldn't go back for anything!!
Check out the food lists/recommendations and recipes on that site and I'm sure you'll find it helpful!
Good luck,
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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Also, what about all the in between things. Fat for example. Biggest question there is Mayonaise. It's egg based but fatty so it should be OK from a non-yeast point of view. OK unless you're trying to CLEAR yeast. Anything with vinegar in it is not good.
Avoiding ham because we think it counts as "processed". Is that correct? What about cheeses? Cottage Cheese? processed meats are not good for anybody. Dairy is not good on a yeast-free diet.
Fairly high fat but otherwise they sound OK (less the milk issue). just don't overdo the fats
I'm assuming (or hoping) that tomatoes are OK (not sweetened sauces but diced in an omelette, etc). How about starchy vegetables like corn? Tomatoes are somewhat OK. Not OK if you have pain issues. It's one of the nightshades. Forget corn....and othere starches. They turn to sugar very quickly and feed the yeast.
How do avocado's fit into this equation? Any suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated. Avocados are great.
I pretty much fashioned my candida diet on their recommendations and it works wonders!
I would definitely stay away from all things with sugar, wheat, preservatives, and dairy to start with. It seems like a lot at first but it's the best thing I ever did for my health and I wouldn't go back for anything!!
Check out the food lists/recommendations and recipes on that site and I'm sure you'll find it helpful!
Good luck,
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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I pretty much fashioned my candida diet on their recommendations and it works wonders!
I would definitely stay away from all things with sugar, wheat, preservatives, and dairy to start with. It seems like a lot at first but it's the best thing I ever did for my health and I wouldn't go back for anything!!
Check out the food lists/recommendations and recipes on that site and I'm sure you'll find it helpful!
Good luck,
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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I pretty much fashioned my candida diet on their recommendations and it works wonders!
I would definitely stay away from all things with sugar, wheat, preservatives, and dairy to start with. It seems like a lot at first but it's the best thing I ever did for my health and I wouldn't go back for anything!!
Check out the food lists/recommendations and recipes on that site and I'm sure you'll find it helpful!
Good luck,
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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Hi! I've been wondering this too, just bought some 'cooking organically' books, so I'll let you know how that goes (although I'm new to this cooking thing, so anything I try to make will probably work better for you!).
Lymetoo - why no tomatoes if you have pain issues?
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tdtid
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Wow Ashley, you really wanted to make sure I saw your post, didn't you?
I'm really just kidding since that happened to me elsewhere. But heck, I only got four posts. You beat me.
In any case, I wanted to thank you all and yes, the link looks like a really good one too. Thank you.
Soooooo....I'm obviously a newbie and hear about a lyme diet and yeast diet.
I thought if you followed the yeast diet while taking antibiotics, you had a better shot of not getting yeast.
I just started abx a week ago, so I don't have a yeast problem, I just don't want one.
So what is the main difference between the yeast and the lyme diet?
My LLMD didn't even MENTION diet so anything I've learned came from support group info. So anyone have a crash course for a newbie on this topic?
Cathy
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Thanks for giving me a laugh Cathy--it's the first one i've had all day!! When I saw this post had 10 responses I got really keen to have a read and lo and behold 7 of them are ME!!! Yikes!
And no, I promise, it's not because I want the attention, just obviously wanted to make REAL sure you got that link to Whole Approach!
As far as what the differences are between a Lymes and candida diet--I haven't run across any to speak of. I've been doing the candida diet for over four years because of a systemic infection so I was happy when I saw the Lyme and candida diets are alike.
And yes, anything you can do to lower your possibility of getting candida is a very GOOD thing. It's a very opportunistic organism for sure!
Take very good care and good luck to you!!
Ashley Posts: 77 | From New York | Registered: Oct 2006
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I do anti candida diet as a vegan, so it is possible. The whole approach is a good web site, I use recipes from there. You do not need to avoid all starches, you do need to avoid GLUTEN containing starches, as gluten converts quickly to sugars, and limit others.
Non gluten grains are: quinoa, millet, buckwheat, amaranth. Corn has no gluten, but some have allergies to it. Long grain brown rice is low gluten
Nuts: Almonds are on all the ok lists. Cashews ok on some, not on other(mold concerns or that they are not as alkalyne).
Beans: If you're not having a large flare up. Especialy pinto (high alkalyne) or lentils
Soy products are good. Tofu, UNSWEETENED soy milk (not plain, check lable carefully), soy cheese, soy yogurt. They dont feed candida and are considered alkalyne.
Red potatoes with the skins, eat with oil or butter to help assimilation.
Lots of vegetables.
Generally no fruit, if not having a real problem, then occaisonal apple blueberrie or maybe grapefruit. Avacadoes, lemon juice in your water, are always good. Acaia powder, a brazillian fruit, (which has NOTHING else added) is a great source of antioxidants etc. It has absolutly NO sugar. I put the powder (sambazon power scoop) into PLAIN UNSWEETENED soy yogurt with some stevia powder. Tastes great. Better than blueberry.
The thing about the standard recomended Lyme or candida diet is that it is extremely acid forming. So is taking antibiotics. Our bodies need to be alkalyne to be healthy. If your body is taking in too much acid forming foods/medicines, it has to keep you blood at a certain PH level, so it needs to buffer this acidity, what it has available as a buffer is--the calcium stored in your bones! My LLMD actually measures our height evry month, to monitor for shrinkage ! All the while telling people to take lots of antibiotics and meat/high protein. So, I would caution not to go too extreme into the acid forming foods. You CAN design an anticandida diet of alkalyne type foods. 1/4 cup almonds has more protein than 1 egg, and is better for you. Quinoa is extremely good tasting, quick cooking and versital.
Good luck. It is a good idea to watch your diet before a problem developes, but just meat and vegetables does not seem to be well balanced and healthy for your bodies long term health.
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tdtid
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Wow, great help, MountainMoma. I'll need to keep that for reference since right now, my head is buzzing.
Ashley, I did look over at The Whole Approach and it sounds extremely optomistic, but I feel like I'm learning all new words when it comes to most of the ingredients.
That is NOT a bad thing and I obviously know changes in diet play a major factor in this lyme equation.
It's just I've been in my first herx since about Thursday and I'm not doing well even sitting up, so laying down with laptop in bed, in hopes of learning the courses I need to turn some of this damage around.
I think once like I have some brain cells, I'll get to the Health Food Store and see which ingredients I can find.
When I was told I had fibro, I spent time at the HFS but more for vitamin and herbs, but never thought cooking.
Then when I hear lyme, it was all the yeast scare stories and don't cheat and since my doctor never even mentioned diet, I'm paranoid I'll eat the wrong thing, so just don't eat it.
I'm sure I'll be venturing out since no one could do this diet for long.
Cathy
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