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chiz
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Please help.

My 9 year old son has been burping non stop for the last 9 days.

It is associated with nausea (another new symptom) and an increase in abdo pain (longstanding symptom).

He is really distressed by it and has been tearful tonight asking when he is ever going to get better.

He presented with cyclical fevers, headaches, stomach ache, joint pains and sound sensitivity. He has been on amoxil for 5 months and zithromax for 3 months. His Igenex WB was CDC positive.

Initially he was much better after starting the zithromax but after a month he had a month long herx and hasn't been as well since.

9 days ago the burping started co-inciding with a monthly flare up of symptoms. Burping is worse some days than others but he doesn't burp in his sleep.

I have witheld his abx for 2 days and will get some anti-fungal treatment tomorrow (tongue is not furred)- just in case this is a cause.

I spoke to his LL paed briefly yesterday and we agreed on the above, plus plan to change him to mepron and zith to cover babesia. He was bitten in France where babesia is common but he hasn't had classic babesia symptoms (apart from cyclical fevers) which may be because the french variety is different (does anyone know?)

Please offer advice. I am just beside myself with worry. We have been through so much already and now something as silly as burping is making his life really miserable.
Chiz

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seibertneurolyme
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Burping is often a sign of irritation to the vagus nerve.

Hubby has this problem from time to time.

Do you know a good chiropractor? The irritation could be coming from the spinal cord and affecting the stomach. That is a 2nd possibility.

Also could be a sign that the illeocecal valve is stuck (forget if it is stuck open or closed)-- some chiro's can help with this as well.

I would get some ph paper at the health food store and test to see if he is too alkaline or too acidic. Either a little apple cider vinegar in water or baking soda in water might help if the problem is caused by the ph being off.

Hope he gets some relief soon.

Bea Seibert

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I'm so sorry to hear about your son and for the worry you're going through.

I really don't know much about lyme on your side of the pond, and I've never connected my excessive burping to lyme, but there are an awful lot of 'quirks' that I didn't connect to the symptoms I sought help for that would be explained by lyme.

I burp A LOT, which is highly inappropriate for a 24 year-old woman. I've found that it helps me weed out the jerks, though [Wink]

I have no idea why lyme would cause this or if it's a related thing at all, just thought I'd put it out there.

Interestingly, I spent the summer before I got ill in the UK, though I doubt that's where/when I contracted this (if that's in fact what I have - I'm still waiting for results).

Good luck! You and your son will be in my thoughts.

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Chiz,
Another idea would be that your son is developing symptoms of gastritis.

Gastritis Symptoms
In people who have gastritis symptoms, pain or discomfort in the upper abdomen is the most common.

The pain is usually in the upper central portion of the abdomen (the "pit" of the stomach).

Gastritis pain occurs in the left upper portion of the abdomen and in the back. The pain seems to "go right straight through" a person as it travels from the belly to the back.

People often use the terms burning, aching, gnawing, or sore to describe the pain. Usually, a vague sense of discomfort is present, but the pain may be sharp, stabbing, or cutting.

Other symptoms of gastritis include the following:

Belching: Belching usually either does not relieve the pain or relieves it only briefly.

Nausea and vomiting: The vomit may be clear, green or yellow, blood-streaked, or completely bloody, depending on the severity of the stomach inflammation.

Bloating

Feeling of fullness or burning in the upper part of the belly

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/gastritis/page3_em.htm#Gastritis%20Symptoms


I recognise the burping and nausea as symptoms, because I developed it after taking Motrin for pain, for a long time.

You can read more info at the link above, and you may want to talk to your doctor about it.

Hope this helps,
Carol

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We have weekly MD educational talks on all subjects in our hospital.

Lately one talked about getting too much gas with useing STRAWS TO DRINK SODA POPS, and our mouths being open at night sucking in all that air that causes the belching also.

I eat a lot of cashews and raisins; boy, do those cashews bring on non-stop belching for me too! Best wishes to him/you! [Big Grin]

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The enzyme, ghrelin, maybe (likely) involved. Too little. Too much if he were to contract H. Pylori.

Need a file on ghrelin?

Yes...no straws.

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Could part of the problem be acid reflux?

Hard for kids to report what things feel like
exactly...wonder if he is burping up acidy?

My daughter with lyme and co has acid reflux and
lower abdominal pain.

What has helped is suspension abx rather than tablets; surprisingly-zith for bart, 400mg only MWF. Prilosec and zantac. and hyocyamin (sp?) for stomach pain.

We are seeing steady improvement. Also, she
recently got diagnosed and started treatment
for POTS, which was causing a lack of blood
flow to her tissues. I think more normal blood
flow is contributing to improvement.

I hope you guy gets some relief tummy trouble is the pits!

Char

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Just some suggestions from experience with kids..

1. stop all milk, cheeze, and milk products

2. stop all sodas, anything that contains high fruitose syrup and all diet sodas and foods.. Aspertame is really bad for kids...

3. stop junk carbs, like pancakes, donuts, cakes, candies, corn syrup, ice creams can be a toxic waste dump..

4. No spicy foods, like chili, eat out restruant foods, junk foods, like fast food hamburgers, hot dogs, etc.

Sounds like he is allergic to something.. The lyme meds may have intensified the allergy...

Try to eliminate vegetable cooking oils and maragine, use olive or coconut oils, natural butter...

Of course don't stop all at once but at a controlled pace. Keep a record of respones.

Try to cook with meat that has no hormones.
Try baked chicken (not fryed), baked potatoes, carrots. Avoid packaged lunch meats.

Bake biscuits (no veggie oils)with natural butter or buy a good grain wheat bread (12 grain Roman Meal is a good one).

Cook scambled eggs and bacon for breakfest.. Kids need natural fats for growth...

Of course no box cereals (toxic waste dump) with milk.. I can't think of a worse food for kids..

No "fruit" juices, most contain corn syrup and artifical flavors. Plus, even natural juices are not good as they have too much acid...

Try cantolope mellons, the juice is soothing to some stomaches..

What food does good and what does not (increase or decrease burps).
Time the burps to get an average. Might be useful to a doctor and as a measuring tool... What do they smell like, etc...

Record how he says they taste... Keep a record of body temps during a bad session. Also, I would record the heart beats at the same time..

Make sure he is getting enough water.. Does ice water seem to help?

Take the above suggestions with a large dose of common sense...

good luck

Tj

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not sure how others will feel about this, but we use gas-x (simethicone) for excessive gas.... our pediatrician even had us give to our kids when they were very little.

It will not address the source of the burps though.

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I would try baking soda in a bath and see if that helps the burning.
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