trails
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hi everyone,
I researched some last night about cholesterol both here and other sites. Very interesting stuff, but confusing to me.
could someone help me with some of these test results?
This is NOT the first time VLDL has been High since relapse of lyme in 2004.
Lipid Profile cholesterol High 206 range(126-200) HDL High 94 range(40-65) LDLcalculated normal within range LDL/HDL ratio Low .98 range(1.00-3.50)
THEN.... on other pages there is more....
cholesterol, sum total High range(less than 200) LDL cholesterol High 20 range(less than 20) Remant Lipo High 34 range(less than 30) VLDL High 14 range(less than 10)
The doc (surgeon) just looked at the first page and said---yeah, but it is your HDL that is high so that is good. HDL is good cholesterol.
But then in the following pages>>>it is LDL and VLDL that are high. I dont think he SAW these pages. And he isnt really equipped to deal---he is dealing with SO VERY much else in my health picture....have seen him for hours lately in appointments as we prepare for surgery next week.
I am a skinny gal who has been losing weight without trying. I was a vegetarian for 10 years and my partner is veggie so I eat a lot of veg meals. Yeah, I eat a ton of cheese and I love a hamburger every once in a while. I crave animal fat and protien constantly.
Any comments on my results? It is freaking me out. I read a few places that VLDL is used by Bb.
thanks for all your support and knowledge! trails
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trails
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yes gigi, that is one of the links I looked at last night. I understand that my "high" cholesterol may not be a biggie as far as cloggin arteries, but what does it mean as far as LYME???
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When neurotoxins are coming down the pipe, the liver starts to produce more cholesterol to protect our body from damage. Sort of like wrapping it up and trying to shuttle it through. Be sure you have enough phosopholipids on board always to help as a shuttle agent, as well as the mop-up agents such as chlorella, cholestyramine if you can handle it, pectin, destroxin, chitosan, and lots of fiber, fiber, fiber.
You can only detox some of the neurotoxins, such as heavy metals that we all collect every day of our life, if we have proteins on board. Unless you really know your foods very well and are having enough proteins every day, it can be difficult. Dr. K. says outright that he has never seen a healthy vegetarian. It is noble, but very difficult to do and still live healthyly in today's environment. Be sure to have all the good sugars (especially galactose) which help in the amino acid building process.
When I detoxed full force, I ate 4-6 eggs every day. That's how important proteins are. While I was doing this, my cholesterol level dropped as I was getting rid of some of the dangerous toxins. That's how our liver works as long as it has all the materials to do it with.
Take care.
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A Veggie diet almost killed one of my daughters. A veggie diet is very dangerous to the human body.
Veggie diet is great if you have four stomachs and moo a lot. Veggies are not all that good for humans. Most veggies are poisonous and require careful cooking...
Veggie diets are just an urban legend that girls get into thinking they can loose weight. It is easy to lose weight when you are dead....
Humans are meat eaters. Animal fats are the best energy source for survival... The body requires animal fats for muscle fuel and repair and growth of vital organs, like the brain and immune system..
As for cholesterol, don't sweat it.. Your cholesterol is too low.. Which means you immune system is fighting something..
Your colesterol should be 240 or greater... There is no such thing as bad cholesterol. That is just hype the ducks use to get your money...
Cholesterol is fuel for the immune system. If it is low then you are at high risk for cancer or anything else that happens along...
Get rid of all veggie cooking(transfats) oils use only olive, coconut, peanut, butter(real) or animal fats...
Of course you crave animal fats you are starving your body of vital nutrients it needs for life...
A breakfast of eggs and bacon or ham is the best way to start the day. This will fuel the muscles, brain and the immune system.. You will have more energy and will burn more body fat.
Go easy on bread. I like one slice of high grain bread with lots of real butter.. Milk is good if you are milk tolerant.. Avoid sweets and cerels.
Atkins was right. You will loose wieght on a high natural fat diet...
good luck
Tj
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trails
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Thanks Gigi and TJ.
I should clarify---I am NOT a vegetarian now. FAR from it. I eat eggs every day and often ham or sausage--i love the pig meats. I just do eat lots of dinners with no meat in them....but usually they have cheese.
I am not taking anything to detox right now as I am about to have surgery on the 1st and have been dealing with lots of issues not particularly related to lyme, and detoxing heavily would be impossible.
I have tried CSM and did well for a time until it totalled my tummy---In fact i pooped my brains out on CSM--unlike others---I was really moving that stuff thru!
Also I have metal fillings so i am not sure what I should do detox wise until I can get them removed. I wont be doing any removing for at least a year due to finances and other circumstances.
Is chollera safe to take when you have fillings?
Thanks Gigi--I appreciate the time youare taking to respond to my post even over the holiday!
gobble gobble! trails
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Yes, chlorella is safe to take with fillings.
My doc recommends Natures balance chlorella.
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trails
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thanks dipity! i thought so. I have a friend who is getting better with chollera and infra red sauna and some sort of sea weed the Chirnobel (sp?) accident victims took to soak up their toxins. I forget the name of it...starts with an M....
I am going to look into chollera for SURE after next surgery. (one week)
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Trails,
With an HDL of 94, you'll outlive us all!! I've always had good HDL (genetics, I think) but my LDL is always a struggle to keep in check unless I exercise and diet very strictly. And with Lyme, I can't exercise except to walk.
A new LLMD I started seeing said Babesia can be a culprit in high cholesterol. Not what I wanted to hear, but it's probably true.
So I would be celebrating if I had your numbers! Granted, as GiGi and Marnie and others have explained, Lyme and cholesterol have a weird relationship that takes the topic outside the typical "keep your cholesterol low" conversation.
Good luck with your surgery!!!
Jill
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trails
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THANKS JILL! You are always so kind. I continue to be bothered by the connection between cholesterol and TBDs, but your post does help me feel alottle better.
I remembered the name of the seaweed---medifulin. NO idea how to spell that one.
anyone know about it?
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My prayers and thoughts will be with you during the upcoming surgery.
Can you set aside your worries for now about the VLDL? It's not an acute problem or something you can likely do anything about in the upcoming weeks. The surgery will take enough your energy.
So flag it, put in a file to be read later. OK? I'll send you some reading later, I don't even have the energy to do it now and have no surgery coming up. Just life with lyme.
take care my friend.
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Trails~
Check out www.labtestsonline.org. They do a very good job explaining cholesterol, etc, lab values.
I've had a cholesterol my whole life of around 200. When I was a vegetarian for a time (with fish and dairy but no cheese), my cholesterol dropped maybe 10 points.
My HDL has always been high, as yours is too.
Your LDL confused me...isn't the range less than 100?? You have less than 20??
My daughter, who is 22 and a several times marathon runner has the same lipid profile as I do (cholesterol around 200) high HDL, High LDL, etc.
I've decided, and my cardiologist agrees, my cholesterol issues are minor compared to the lyme issue, which is major at this point. We are not addressing the cholesterol issue.
If you don't have a family history of heart disease you don't have much to worry about.
I'll check out the post from Gigi...I need to work on the detoxing issues....I've got some CSM sitting on my bathroom counter that I am wanting to try tonight, but am running it by my docs first. I need them to stay on my side!
Timaca
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Gigi~ The neural toxin elimination post did not come up for me.
Timaca
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Every pork cell contains a virus called Porcine Endogenous Retrovirus. Pork also produces other unhealthy effects in the body.
I would steer clear when possible!
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trails
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oh lymetoo---a girl has got to live and pork is a girl's best friend.
Serendipity--thanks for your thoughts and compassion! I know, it isnt actually high on the list---just wanted to get it out there while it was still fresh and before MORE oil gets poured onto my personal oil slick of crapola.
Timaca! good to see you!
Yes---the SECOND set of numbers is very different than the FIRST set. The ranges are different and everything and I dont understand the difference between the two sets of results. Why is my HDL great in one and my LDL too high in the other?
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