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Hubby's LLMD thinks this will help his chiropractic and bodywork adjustments hold. If so would theoretically stop muscle spasms and pain. These injections are supposed to tighten up loose ligaments and tendons.
http://www.aaomed.org -- Click on Find A Doctor then Search under prolotherapy (type into therapies box)
LLMD who is trained to do prolotherapy claims 80% success rate with Lymies. Naturally I am skeptical of such phenomenal results.
Called 3 docs -- 1 was not even taking new patients, 1 couldn't see hubby before June, 2007 and unbelievably the closest one (only an hour away) could see hubby this Friday.
Will let you know how Friday's appointment goes.
Bea Seibert
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You might want to do a search here. It has been discussed many times.
I had excellent results after two treatments several weeks apart. One injection each. Back pain that I had suffered with for years since Lyme is gone and has not returned in several years.
Find a good therapist. It is an art.
Take care.
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i have to report that although i was somewhat skeptical, i had extraordinary results with prolotherapy, just recently.
longstanding neck pain associated with allergies and alignment issues, (not related to lyme as far as i can tell), has been totally alleviated with 2 rounds of prolotherapy.
a warning -- it was a pretty harsh process, entailing in my case multiple (maybe 20 or more) long needles deep into my neck, making weird crunching noises and very painful at the time and then extreme stiffness for several days. and after the first set i got quite sick (hard to know if it was related, but it seemd like it) and had to go on antibiotics for severe sinus infection.
but by a week after the first shots my pain -- which had been around for more than 20 years -- was reducd by 80%.
after the second set of shots it was 100% gone.
it's been a couple months, and no reoccurance so far. this is pain which had been daily and pretty annoying.
i've had all kinds of other treatment, chiropractics etc, all of which would only help moderately and intermitently, even when i did many many sesssions.
i am very impressed. i absolutely echo gigi's warning to find a very experienced pratitioner -- it' akin to surgery in my opinion; a skill that is not for the faint of heart.
best of luck flossie
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I did it with a physical rehab doc that specialized in it.
He did hundreds of shots at a time.
It was very painful. I looked like someone had taken a ball bat to me.
I might have had slight improvement, but not worth the pain/expense.
I hear that you have to do just a few injections at a time to keep from overwhelming body's ability to heal, especially when we have an inflammatory disease.
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Chronic....just take the meds doc gives you. Don't be shy about it! For some, there is instant pain relief from the prolo. I was never that lucky.
but just think: I've had it done about 10 times. I wouldn't go back for more unless the initial pain was worth it.
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I recently tried this for chronic back pain. Had 8 sessions with a doctor who is very well versed in this and did not notice any improvement or change at all.
This could probably be just me though since all the anitbiotic treatments, chriro treatments, therapy treatments, hololistic treatments, prolo treatments I have done over the last 1.5 years haven't done a thing for me.
I feel worse than I ever have before and I am very close to the end of my rope.
Since it is rather expensive I stopped going.
The injections were not terribly painful, but they did not tickle or anything.
I would recommend trying everything you can.
I am now with a third chiroprator and on a fifth antibiotic cocktail and worse then ever before, but I guess all I can do is keep trying as well.
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I've had 2 prolotherapy treatments done of my neck, shoulders and back. I noticed some pain reduction with my 1st treatment. I had a stiff neck for a few hours after the treatment. The 2nd treatment has also helped but I'm still a long way from pain-free.
I've had pain for 30 years and it will take a few more treatments to see how well they work. My insurance doesn't cover prolotherapy and it is expensive.
I had 60 - 70 injections done each time. I didn't have any meds before treatment. I had 1 injections that was very painful, probably 10 that were uncomfortable and the rest were not painful. The crunching noise is very weird.
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Not sure this is going to happen with the doc we saw.
New patient appointment was today. Doc wants us to bring x-rays (we could have done that today if asked!) Monday and will do an adjustment. According to this doc need to do bodywork to correct structural problems BEFORE doing prolotherapy. This is what we have been trying to do for 2 months NOW!!!
Anyway this doc does have about 30 years of experience, but the structural problems she found were the exact same ones 3 other therapists have found. I am skeptical that any adjustments she makes will hold at this point.
Hubby is upset -- tired of dealing with grumpy people!!! This lady had a big chip on her shoulder.
Will go back Monday and tell the lady that we are keeping our LLMD and our PCP and will deal strictly with her for bodywork/prolotherapy. If that is not good enough then we will move on.
The 1 hour car ride really upset hubby's nervous system and then dealing with this doc's attitude didn't help. There are still a few other prolotherapy people on the list -- 3 or 4 hours drive from home unfortunately.
I forgot that I had checked on a 4th person -- that one moved to New Zealand!!!
Hubby really wanted to go listen to some Christmas music tomorrow night. The symphony orchestra from a larger city will be in town. Doesn't look like it is going to happen though as he doesn't think he can sit long enough to hear the program.
Bea Seibert
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Lymetoo, I will definitely take the meds and I know who your doc is and of course, that is where I'm going too. I would say I am spoiled too to have the option of going to the LLMD for prolo.
I'm still nervous, like Bea's hubby (I love it that she calls him that) I've tried chiro for about 20 years, acupuncture, physical therapy, etc. and can't get an adjustment to hold for more than two weeks.
I do feel very grateful to at least hold for two weeks since hubby seibert is having more difficulty than me. But I'm a slave to my chiro and have to know his schedule every week.
I do appreciate everyone's feedback.
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Had the 2nd appointment with the prolo doc. Her mood was better, but not entirely sure what to make of her conclusions.
As hubby says, 4 or 5 people now are in agreement that "He is crooked." However, we are getting conflicting opinions on whether the primary problem is the psoas muscle (lower back) or the cervical (neck area). The scoliosis starts mid-back so that means there are problems in his back from top to bottom.
Anyway, this doc only does a maximum of 6 injections at a time which seems more reasonable to hubby and I.
To complicate the picture, as I reported in a separate post hubby had a bad reaction to the pain med prescribed by the new doc and is afraid to try the muscle relaxant.
Have an appointment with an herbalist tomorrow and plan to make some more calls to other prolotherapy docs.
Unbelievably a credit card company called me up out of the blue and offered me a preapproved credit card with no interest for a year. At least we have a way to pay for whatever treatment we finally decide on.
Frustrated and confused.
Bea Seibert
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