trails
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anyone tried propax? It is lipid replacement therapy. Got interested in it from Cave's post about lipids and protozoa.
Many "fatigue" diseases like CFS and FMS (lyme?)have shown significant gains using lipid replacement therpay and there is some limited research done on propax showing good results.
� Amount per 1 Packet % Daily Value Calories 14 � hhhhhCalories from Fat 10 � Total Fat 1 g 1.5%
hhhhhSaturated Fat <1 g <1.0% hhhhhPolyunsaturated Fat <1 g * hhhhhMonounsaturated Fat <1 g * Cholesterol 6 mg 2.0% � Carbohydrate <1 g <1.0% � Protein <1 g <1.0% � � Vitamin A as acetate 4375 IU 87.5% Vitamin A as natural beta-carotene 3750 IU 75.0% Vitamin C as calcium ascorbate 150 mg 250.0% Vitamin D-3 as cholecalciferol 32 IU 8.0% Vitamin E as d-Alpha tocopherol 145 IU 483.0% Vitamin K as phytonadione 2.5 mcg 3.1% Vitamin B-1 thiamine HCl 6.25 mg 416.7% Vitamin B-2 as riboflavin/ribose-5-phosphate 30 mg 1764.7% Vitamin B-3 as niacinamide 60 mg 300.0% Vitamin B-6 as pyridoxine/P-5-P 40 mg 2000.0% Folic Acid as folate)200 mcg 50.0% Vitamin B-12 cynocobalamin 25 mcg 416.7% Biotin 25 mcg 8.3% Pantothenic Acid as d-calcium pantothenate)25 mg 250.0% Calcium as phosphate, ascorbate, citrate, sulfate, borogluconate)360 mg 36.0% Iodine as kelp 18.75 mcg 12.5% Magnesium as carbonate, oxide, glycinate, sulfate)160 mg 40.0% Zinc as methionate 12.5 mg 83.3% Selenium as selenomethionate)75 mcg 107.1% Copper as tyrosinate 300 mcg 15.0% Manganese as glycinate 2.5 mg 125.0% Chromium as nicotinate)50 mcg 41.7% Molybdenum as glycinate 20 mcg 26.7% Potassium as citrate 12.8 mg 0.4% � Bioflavonoids as citrus, rutin, rosehips, quercetin 165 mg * Boron as calcium borogluconate 500 mcg * L-Carnitine Tartrate 160 mg * Grape Seed Extract Proanthocyanadins 5 mg * Inositol Inositol/Inositol nicotinate)25 mg * Pantethine as coenzyme A precursor 70 mg * Vanadium as vanadyl sulfate)12.5 mcg * Alpha-Keto Glutarate 125 mg * Glutathione as reduced 5 mg * L-Tyrosine 60 mg * N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine 25 mg * Taurine 110 mg * Green Tea Extract 50 mg * Horsetail as silica 12.5 mg * Phosphoglycolipids 160 mg * EPA as Eicosopentaenoic Acid 180 mg * DHA as Docosahexaenoic Acid120 mg * NT Factor as tablet base 1400 mg * ------------------------------------------------------------------
Ingredients of NT Factor:
* *Daily Value not established**NT Factor� is a nutrient complex extracted and prepared using proprietary processes. It is composed only of food and food components listed as :
Phosphoglycolipids - includes polyunsaturated phosphatidylcholine, glycolipids and other polyunsaturated phosphatidyl nutrients.
Bifido and Lactobacillus Bacterium - freeze-dried and microencapsulated in a state of suspended animation with potential to form healthy microflora colonies.
Growth Media - foods and bacteria growth factors to support microflora colonies including rice bran extract, arginine, beet root fiber, black strap molasses, glycine, magnesium sulfate, para-amino benzoate, leek, \
Table 1. Components of NT Factor and their proposed functions
NT Factor is a nutrient complex that is extracted and prepared using a proprietary process. In addition, nutrients, vitamins and probiotic microorganisms are added to the preparation. It contains the following ingredients:
Glycophospholipids: polyunsaturated phosphatidylcholine, other polyunsaturated phosphatidyl lipids and glycolipids. Proposed purpose: repair and maintenance of membrane lipids.
Probiotics: Bifido bacterium, Lactobacillus acidophilus, and Lactobacillus bacillus in a freeze-dried, microencapsulated form with appropriate growth nutrients. Proposed purpose: supports digestion, gut epithelium and the immune system
Proposed purpose: antioxidants support lipids from oxidation, growth medium supports probiotics and gut epithelium, vitamins support general health and the immune system, and food supplements support lipids from enzymatic digestion and oxidation.
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My thoughts:
There appear to be several products on the marked using NT Factor, plus selected ingredients.
I have heard this NT Factor mentioned on lymenet several times, so a search may provide feedback.
The use of phosphitidylcholine etc. has been mentioned before as a combo with the omega's.
Also, some people were using a product by Dr. K (see betterhealthguy.com) which was like that delivery system.
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But NT factor proposes a unique patented manufacturing process, according to the website.
My best guess is to compare the product with what you are taking, and find out what results were with the NT Factor folks.
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I have had lipid exchange therapy (phosphatidylcholine push) and found it extraordinarily helpful with my CNS symptoms. Unfortunately doc stopped giving it. I have been taking oral phosphatidylcholine, but it doesn't seem to have any marked effect. I would be really curious to hear if the Propax works.
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trails
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northstar--what a researcher you are!
yes it is a bunch of mega foods/vitamins that have been "clinically proven" to restore mitochondria and in studies has improved fatigue for people with CFS and fibro.
so--i am going to order some---stuff is NOT cheap. was wondering who else has used propax with NT factor?
Docjen--I am not sure how similar lipid replacement therapy and lipid exchange therapy are. do you know the differences or similarities?
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what is lipid exchange..I was going to do it at the haverford wellness center..anyone else try it.. eric
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Trails I took Propax a few months ago and I think it's what got me on my feet again after a massive crash. It contains all the nutrients my doctor advised me to take when some tests showed that my ATP production was very poor but I'd already been taking those supplements as separate products and not getting any better. Maybe the addition of the NT Factor in Propax is what makes it more effective, for me anyway.
No it's not cheap, especially if you take three packs a day as I do, but you won't have to take any other supps. I've just re-started after a break but it would be interesting to have the ATP profile done again and see if my mitochondrial function has recovered at all .....but actually I'd rather spend the money on more Propax.
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trails
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Thank you Elinor!!
I am surprised that more lymies are not using this product. I am going to buy some asap. sounds like it might be WORTH the money--many supps are NOT.
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