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Hi I've been having painful lymph swelling in the neck and groin and wanted to know if anyone can relate to this. does lyme cause this or is it more of a bart thign?> thanks
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From my personal experience my lymph glands went balistic from bart and ehrlichia - Some of the energenic testing that I have done also pointed to the same thing.
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bpeck
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Might be a good idea to have a blood test run to look at your white count - maybe have a manually differential run to separate out any abnormalities.
Alot of pathogens can cause swollen Lymph nodes.. some can be serious.. maybe Lyme- maybe something else.
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I started rifampin about a week ago for Bart and the last few days the lymph nodes in my neck 'feel' like they're loaded with crap. I don't actually know if they are swollen - I haven't asked anyone to touch - but it feels like it. I think it's the meds getting at the bart and my system maybe can't handle all the toxins going through??? Thoughts?
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the lymphatic system moves waste from the cells of the whole body.
infection, die-off, toxins or an obstruction further 'down the line' - like kidney or other eliminative organs becoming over-taxed, sluggish, or other - can also cause lymph to build up. basically, the idea is to start from one's bottom up in working on clearing things
you'd have to look at your individual circumstances carefully, but imo it is important to have organ cleansing and lymph flow attention/treatment a part of your regimen throughout (treatment appropriate for YOUR individual conditions), to avoid 'backwash' which can further complicate things and makes it difficult to distinguish what symptom is from which exact cause.
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I think lymph involvement is often listed as a Bart symptom. However, I recently started Rifampin, have Bart, and have never had swollen lymph nodes. My LLMD even checked them the other day and they were fine.
So it just shows we are each different!
I've always heard that rebounding or any kind of exercise where the body has to move up and down causes the lymphatic system to pump better. Personally I'm too dizzy to do that.
I was doing the skin brushing months ago that is supposed to help lymphatic draining.
It's been years since I've done lymphatic draining massage, but that's a possibility too.
Take care, Jill
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kelmo
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My daughter gets swollen lymph, mostly in the neck.
The rebounder was helpful. You don't even have to bounce that much, just put it up near a wall, or corner and hold on, then just bounce enough to have your heels clear the mat. You don't even have to lift the ball of the foot, alternate heel lifts.
Alternating hot and cool packs helps with the comfort level a bit.
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I'd like to hear more about how to drain the lymph nodes. I am doing colon cleansing )Colosan) and considering whelchol (or something similar) but nothing to hit the lymph specifically. I do walk daily so that should get my system 'bouncing'.
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I used bay laurel hydrosol( a floral water like rose water) to cleanse the lymph nodes. It worked very well for me and reduced any lymph swelling I had pretty rapidly.
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MariaA
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Scottie, I take Welchol and I believe it does nothing to your lymph system (though it's an AWESOME drug for brainfog I think, and has few side effects).
I think exercise of any sort, bouncing or not, helps the lymph system- the muscles act as a pump. Even walking 'round the block' helps (I know some of you are too sick to even do that, but for me an important starting point was to realize that "walking 1 block counts" as exercise)
I recently started taking Red Root (herbal) tincture and it made my lymph nodes swell up on the first day.
It's been going down since then (and I feel SOO much better but that's not the only thing I've changed recently). It's very interesting to see this symptom because it used to be a major symptom of my Lyme for the first few months I was sick (and after my inadequately short antibiotic treatment by non-LLMD's). For the past 8 months I've been treating Lyme with antibiotics and then herbs, and I was very surprised to see nothing happen to my lymph nodes the entire time while other old symptoms came and went. Obviously the Red Root did something.
Stephen Buhner (and just about every other medical herbalist) recommends Red Root tincture for sluggish lymph system issues. Buhner also recommends it for bartonella (in combination with warm boneset tea [not tincture]).
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