lymeladyinNY
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Does anyone else experience the strange sensation of pressure and muscle twitching on the bridge of their nose? My eyes feel this pressure, too, and they look irritated and have dark circles under them. It's such a weird feeling and I'm wondering if it's Lyme-related.
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Hi lymeladyinNY,
I didn't have pressure/twitching on the bridge of my nose, but I did have pressure over my whole face at times. And I did have dark circles under my eyes, eye pressure/pain, facial twitching and numbness. Everything has improved for me with treatment for Lyme.
Are you seeing a LLMD or been diagnosed with Lyme?
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I have experienced these symptoms, with pressure radiating out to my skull region...have never come up with an answer...possibly it is due to bone marrow infiltration/ bone disease...there is a heart of marrow behind the bridge of your nose. The pressure increases with symptomology...not much is known about bone borreliosis, because no one wants to study it.
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lymeladyinNY
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Yes, I've been diagnosed with Lyme and 4 co-infections. It's been almost 4 years since the tick bite and I've been very/moderately ill since. I go to Dr. C. in southeast PA. Very good LLMD but she's a little frustrated I haven't gotten better than I have.
Thanks for the word about bone borreliosis. Last night I experienced numbness in my forehead just above the bridge of my nose so now I'm convinced it's a Lyme-thing!
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It could possibly be your sinuses swelling up. At one time I was taking 10-12 advil a day to try to control it. google grossan irrigator. It's simply a waterpick with a rubber attachment to it. you can get these attachments from an ENT doc.
Anyway irrigation with colloidal silver and warm saline has brought me down to ZERO sinus problems.
good luck
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i have had a feeling of pressure and swelling on the left side of my face, on and off, for about 8 months..my face actually swells a bit on the left side and my eye is puffy underneath..have no clue what causes this
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My nose is still bothering me and I notice the bridge is a bit swollen. I hope it doesn't get worse.
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My daughter had that frequently in the early days. It was at its worst with epsom salt baths. Then bad when she herxes, then her neck lymph glands swell up, too.
I was wondering of it had something to do with cranial nerves.
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I have the numbness on my face/ forehead also, hope it gets better for you. It really scared me the first time it happened. My face was so numb it was like I came out of the dentist office from Novicane.
Here is some information from Tincup about the Cranial Nerves.
"Sometimes during research you may find reference to a specific cranial nerve that has been affected by the Lyme, such as with Bells palsy.
Since I can't remember all of the individual nerves and their individual functions, I found this site and cut and pasted them all together from different areas and pages so we could have an easy reference list here.
1. Check the list and match it with your symptoms if neuro Lyme is your problem. It will indicate which nerve has been affected. This hopefully will explain symptoms and problems better for you! It does for me.
Cranial nerves: Nerves that emerge from or enter the skull (the cranium), as opposed to the spinal nerves which emerge from the vertebral column. Cranial nerves come directly from the brain through the skull. There are 12 cranial nerves each of which is accorded a Roman numeral and a name:
Cranial nerve I: The olfactory nerve, Cranial nerve II: the optic nerve, Cranial nerve III: the occulomotor nerve, Cranial nerve IV: the trochlear nerve, Cranial nerve V: the trigeminal nerve, Cranial nerve VI: the abducent nerve, Cranial nerve VII: the facial nerve,
Cranial nerve VIII: the vestibulocochlear nerve, Cranial nerve IX: the glossopharyngeal nerve, Cranial nerve X:the vagus nerve, Cranial nerve XI: the accessory nerve, and Cranial nerve XII: the hypoglossal nerve. The cranial nerves are nerves of the brain. Cranial nerve I: The cranial nerves emerge from or enter the skull (the cranium), as opposed to the spinal nerves which emerge from the vertebral column. There are twelve cranial nerves.
The first cranial nerve is the olfactory nerve which carries impulses for the sense of smell from the nose to the brain. The word "olfactory" comes from the Latin "olfactare", to sniff at and "olfacere", to smell.
Cranial nerve II: The second cranial is the optic nerve, the nerve that connects the eye to the brain and carries the impulses formed by the retina -- the nerve layer that lines the back of the eye, senses light and creates the impulses -- to the brain which interprets them as images.
In terms of its embryonic development, the optic nerve is a part of the central nervous system (CNS) rather than a peripheral nerve. The word "optic" comes from the Greek "optikos", pertaining to sight.
Aside from the optic nerve, the eye has a number of other components. These include the cornea, iris, pupil, lens, retina, macula, and vitreous.
Cranial nerve III: The third cranial nerve is the oculomotor nerve. The oculomotor nerve is responsible for the nerve supply to muscles about the eye: The upper eyelid muscle which raises the eyelid; The extraocular muscle which moves the eye inward; and The pupillary muscle which constricts the pupil.Paralysis of the oculomotor nerve results in drooping eyelid (ptosis), deviation of the eyeball outward (and therefore double vision) and a dilated (wide-open) pupil.
Cranial nerve IV: The fourth cranial nerve, the trochlear nerve, is the nerve supply to the superior oblique muscle of the eye, one of the muscles that moves the eye. Paralysis of the trochlear nerve results in rotation of the eyeball upward and outward (and, therefore, double vision).
The trochlear nerve is the only cranial nerve that arises from the back of the brain stem and it follows the longest course within the skull of any of the cranial nerves.
Cranial nerve V: The fifth cranial nerve is the trigeminal nerve. The trigeminal nerve is quite complex. It functions both as the chief nerve of sensation for the face and the motor nerve controlling the muscles of mastication (chewing). Problems with the sensory part of the trigeminal nerve result in pain or loss of sensation in the face.
Problems with the motor root of the trigeminal nerve result in deviation of the jaw toward the affected side and trouble chewing.
The term "trigeminal" comes from the Latin "trigeminus" meaning "threefold," referring to the three divisions (ophthalmic, maxillary and mandibular) of this nerve.
Cranial nerve VI: The sixth cranial nerve is the abducent nerve. It is a small motor nerve that has one task: to supply a muscle called the lateral rectus muscle that moves the eye outward. Paralysis of the abducent nerve causes inward turning of the eye (internal strabismus) leading to double vision.
The word "abducent" comes from the Latin "ab-", away from + "ducere", to draw = to draw away. The abducent (or abducens) operates the lateral rectus muscle that draws the eye toward the side of the head. The abducent nerve is also called the abducens nerve. Cranial nerve VII: The facial nerve is the seventh cranial nerve.
The facial nerve supplies the muscles of facial expression. Paralysis of the facial nerve causes a characteristic picture with drooping of one side of the face, inability to wrinkle the forehead, inability to whistle, inability to close the eye and deviation of the mouth toward the other side of the face. Paralysis of the facial nerve is called Bell's palsy.
Cranial nerve VIII: The eighth cranial nerve is the vestibulocochlear nerve. The vestibulocochlear nerve is responsible for the sense of hearing and it is also pertinent to balance, to the body position sense. Problems with the vestibulocochlear nerve may result in , (ringing or noise in the ears), vertigo and vomiting.
Cranial nerve IX: The ninth cranial nerve is the glossopharyngeal nerve. The 12 cranial nerves, the glossopharyngeal nerve included, emerge from or enter the skull (the cranium), as opposed to the spinal nerves which emerge from the vertebral column.
The glossopharyngeal nerve supplies the tongue, throat, and one of the salivary glands (the parotid gland). Problems with the glossopharyngeal nerve result in trouble with taste and swallowing.
"Glosso-" comes from the Greek "glossa", the tongue and "pharynx" is the Greek for throat. So the glossopharyngeal nerve is the nerve that serves the tongue and throat. Cranial nerve X: The tenth cranial nerve, and one of the most important, is the vagus nerve.
All twelve of the cranial nerves, the vagus nerve included, emerge from or enter the skull (the cranium), as opposed to the spinal nerves which emerge from the vertebral column. The vagus nerve originates in the medulla oblongata, a part of the brain stem.
The vagus nerve is a remarkable nerve that relates to the function of numerous structures in the body. The vagus nerve supplies nerve fibers to the pharynx (throat), larynx (voice box), trachea (windpipe), lungs, heart, esophagus and most of the intestinal tract (as far as the transverse portion of the colon). And the vagus nerve brings sensory information back from the ear, tongue, pharynx and larynx. The term "vagus" (Latin for "wandering") is apt because the vagus nerve wanders all the way down from the brainstem to the colon, a long wandering trek. Complete interruption of the vagus nerve causes a characteristic syndrome. The back part of the palate (the soft palate) droops on that side. The capacity to gag (the gag reflex) is also lost on that side. The voice is hoarse and nasal. The vocal cord on the affected side is immobile. The result is dysphagia and dysphonia (trouble swallowing and trouble speaking).
One of the best known branches of the vagus nerve is the recurrent laryngeal nerve. After leaving the vagus nerve, the recurrent laryngeal nerve goes down into the chest and then loops back up to supply the larynx (the voice box). Damage to the recurrent laryngeal
nerve can result from diseases inside the chest (intrathoracic diseases) such as a tumor or an aneurysm (ballooning) of the arch of the aorta or of the left atrium of the heart. The consequence is laryngeal palsy, paralysis of the larynx (the voice box), on the affected side. Laryngeal palsy can also be caused by damage to the vagus nerve before it gives off the recurrent laryngeal nerve.
Cranial nerve XI: The eleventh cranial nerve is the accessory nerve. The accessory is so-called because, although it arises in the brain, it receives an additional (accessory) root from the upper part of the spinal cord. The accessory nerve supplies the sternocleidomastoid and trapezius muscles. The sternocleidomastoid muscle is in the front of the neck and turns the head. The trapezius muscle moves the scapula (the wingbone), turns the face to the opposite side, and helps pull the head back.
Damage to the accessory nerve can be isolated (confined to the accesssory nerve) or it may also involve the ninth and tenth cranial nerves which exit through the same opening (foramen) from the skull . Accessory neuropathy (nerve disease) can sometimes occur and recur for unknown reasons. Most patients recover. Paralysis of the accessory nerve prevents rotation of the head away from that side and causes drooping of the shoulder. Cranial nerve XII: The twelfth cranial nerve is the hypoglossal nerve.
The hypoglossal nerve supplies the muscles of the tongue. (The Greek "hypo-", under and "-glossal" from "glossa", the tongue = under the tongue).
Paralysis of the hypoglossal nerve affects the tongue. It impairs speech (it sounds thick) and causes the tongue to deviate toward the paralyzed side. In time, the tongue diminishes in size (atrophies). "
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I had a bout of facial numbness, and when it first happened, it really scared me.
It stopped, though, after I began taking rifampin for Babesia.
Hope you're able to find some relief!
Andie
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quote:Originally posted by tyevansmom: my face actually swells a bit on the left side and my eye is puffy underneath.
Same thing happened to me. My right eye swelled up and by the time it got back to normal I had a stie(spelling?) on my right eyelid. thankfully it went away...not all of them do.
Anyway the doc said staph or strep. If you've had throat problems like scarring of the tonsils my bet would be strep. If thats the case you've got your work cut out for you...Some very difficult stuff to get rid of.
best of luck
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Thx for posting the nerve info. It helps in identifying where these various symptoms may be coming from.
I'm a chiropractic patient, and I'm a challenge for the chiropractors because of Lyme impairment to these nerves, as for instance, the 11th nerve, I guess, affecting the SCM muscle...
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lymeladyinNY
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Yes, thanks for the information. I also have frequent hoarseness - it sounds like laryngitis. It feels like my vocal cords freeze up and just won't work.
I've had this problem for about a year - it was the one symptom that got my family to pay attention to the seriousness of my situation.
The fact that I couldn't walk and would frequently collapse to the floor didn't get through to them, though!
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