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Sandy
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Hi everyone,
I started taking Heprion injections a week a go and I started taking Zithromax, 250mg, on Sunday.

On Sunday I started feeling off balance, really detached and just a horible feeling that I can't explain, I'm sleeping most of the time and feel very week. I think these feelings started on Sunday, I've been so out of it I can't remember for sure.

Could this be a Herx?

If so do you think it can be caused from the Heprion or the antibiotic.

Can you start having a herx on the same day you start an antibiotic?

I can't get in touch with my doctor until Monday and I can't stand feeling this way until then.

Please help if you can.
Sandy

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I forgot to add in that I'm having night sweats also and chills but no fever.
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Yes, sounds like a herx. Heparin can help get the abx deeper into your tissues so the herxing can get worse.

Chills and sweats....MAKE SURE YOU GET TREATED FOR BABESIA!!

Hang in there, but be sure to let your dr know on Monday.

Does he/she advocate backing off the meds when you herx hard?

What's strange is that when you're on heparin, most docs INCREASE the heparin when you herx. Never quite understood that!!

You may find some answers here:

www.hemex.com

I think they have a discussion board for those using heparin.

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Jill E.
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I herxed the first night I was on antibiotics. Most people say a herx kicks in a few days later, but that was not my case.

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Sandy
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Yes, my doctor says to stop meds if you have a herx.
Sandy

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Sandy, I hope you're feeling better soon - it does sound like a herx. I've started to herx almost immediately, depending on the antibiotic.

If you're having trouble remembering which day it started, do you have a partner or someone who can help you remember to jot down your symptoms on a calendar on in a journal? That always helps me see a pattern later. Just a thought.

Feel better soon,
Cactus

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I'm going to go off my antibiotic for a few days and see if I feel better.

Thanks, Cactus for the good idea of jotting things down!!!

Sandy

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I XEROX what Lymetoo wrote- get treated for Babesiosis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds VERY Babs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always Herx immediately-

UNLESS you have a relapsing fever borrelia I don't understand why you should STOP for a Herx!!!
I know at first it can feel like you are dying and just be hard to bear, but then you get *better*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HERXES ARE WONDERFUL- the worse you feel the greater the gains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only people I see locally who don't get better are people who back away from Herxes!!

Seriously- it really worried me when I read your posting!!!!! Your doctor- is he or she a real LLMD? If not, I know that sometimes we can't always get them, but trust me, when it comes to Herxing, the only way out is through if you want the gains!!! Unless it is a rf borrelia or you have a really really severe Herx like a Flagyl Herx!!!

I can understand stopping with your first time though because it *is* awful scary!!1 I remember that awful, "AM I Herxing or just progressing REALLY fast now?" feeling!!! Wow, that was terrible!!!!

I ALMOST stopped the first time I Herxed. It was form a Rheumie who diagnosed me Lyme and gave me abx. I got so SICK I thought I was dying - BUT after that- I felt ALMOST well on orals- (that was the first time they put me on roals, then said anything that was left after a month was Post-Lyme SYndrome, wouldn't give me any more orals and let me get sicker for a year, then a year later said they were wrong here's some orals and a year later, orals didn't WORK anymore!!!)


You are really VERY lucky!! You are responsive!!!
Sopme people have no changes with abx, etc. They stay sick. If you Herx, YOU WILL GET BETTER!*)*!)!


So
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! ! ! !
!*)*!)*!)!*)!*)!*!)*!)*!)*!)*!)*!)!

You are officially a real Lymie now*)!
Take care,
Best wishes,
Sarah
p.s. Yup, and I am a harsh mean support group leader who LOVES to hear about TERRIBLE AWFUL Herxes because it ALWAYS means in time I will be hearing GOOD things from the SAME person*)!*)!
Herxes bring recovery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REALLY!!! They are good things!!!
Good awful scary good things!!!!!!!!!!

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