I was wondering about the Lyme diet. SOmeone said it is high fat, medium protein. Could someone elaborate? I've never heard this before.
Thanks! Kayda
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kay, in the newbie links/advise i sent you, look for LYMETOO/TUTU's yeast elimination diet link. i don't know which page since i continue adding to what i've sent you'/others!
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Search this out in the archives. Lots of opinions and info. Good fats, not necessarily high or low. Protein yes, Carbs? from broccoli....yes. From white food? (cakes, chips, candy, bread, rice, pasta, etc.)NO ............ for so many reasons.
Artificial sweeteners? NO !!! POISON!!!
Stevia ............ maybe. I use it. It is the safest sweetener IMHO. Bad yeast problem you should probably even curb the use of this herbal sweetener.
Again, please search this is the archives.
As many opinions as there are people.
Common to all healthy diets?
Lots of pure water. Take your weight and half that # ...... drink that # in ounces per day. i.e. 160#'s = 80 ounces per day pure water.
Stay away from high suger veggies..... corn,peas,potatoes
Root veggies ok in limited amounts. But NO potatoes ..... yams instead.
CLEAN protein ..... chicken, fish (NOT farmed)watch the mercury!!, limited beef and buffalo. Use no ABX, no added hormone meats.
Fruit? Ok if you don't have yeast. Berries are best. Granny Smith apples=lower sugar.
Shop on the outside isles of the grocery. Better yet shop at the farm or farmers market.
If it comes in a box don't eat it!!!
Read what's in it .......... long lists with things you can't pronounce are not good and won't help and most likely will slow/harm your recovery.
Now is the time to learn how to eat healthy.... to the extreme.
Real butter in limited amounts. Margarine is a non-food and truly disgusting...my opinion.
Lots of probiotics especially if you are on ABX.
So much more to say but my brain is finished.
Hope this helps, robi
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I would not do high fat, but a low carb diet is best. Maybe you read someone's post about eating fat while taking mepron. You have to eat something fatty when you take this particular drug [for babesia].
These links contain two good diet plans. Think healthy!! Give your body the chance it needs to recover from such an insidious disease!
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Hi Kayda, I think that was probably my post that confused you, sorry.
I was referring to the increase in cholesterol, esp. the bad kind (LDL) that most Lymies experience.
A diet high in good fats (like nuts, wild salmon, rice bran oil, olive oil, and coconut) can greatly help this in my experience, as well as lowering triglycerides and blood sugar.
I was worried about what would happen to my lipid levels now that I can't eat any fat due to gallbladder trouble.
You don't necessarily need high fat, but most Americans need more good fats.
Klutzo
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Stevia - an Alternative for Sugar? (Stevia rebaudiana Bertoni) by Karen Railey
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Since that time Stevia has been legal in the U.S., but only if specifically labeled as a dietary supplement. It cannot be used commercially in food products as a sweetener or labeled as a sweetener. In 1998, the FDA made a raid on a Stevia producer located in Texas and attempted to burn all of the books in their warehouse.
One book relays the story of FDA's suppression of Stevia and another is a cookbook, which makes use of Stevia as a sweetener, not a supplement. There has been much speculation about the FDA's actions and policies concerning this beneficial herb, but evidence points to the very real probability that these things are the result of lobbying pressure exerted by chemical companies producing synthetic sugar substitutes.
quote:Originally posted by klutzo: You don't necessarily need high fat, but most Americans need more good fats.
I agree. I don't think we should overdo the good fats, like we Americans tend to do! We think if something's good for us, then more is better!
BTW, they have flavored Stevia now. It comes in bottles with an eyedropper. Really great stuff!
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Lisianthus,
Great information on stevia. I've been using it as my sugar substitute but had no idea of all the goodness contributed to it. Thanks for sharing.
As far as the diet, some great information here. I definitely see a connection to those watching their diet and feeling better and those eatting the box of chocolates (or whatever) and wondering why they aren't better. Good topic.
Cathy
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Hi- I never heard of Stevia..where can you get it? thanks Natalie
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Thank you so much everyone! I am learning a lot.
Some of the things discussed sound familiar and I may have heard or read about them before, but with my Lyme memory so poor, it is very difficult to keep things fresh in my mind. I may have to print things out and start taping them to the walls in my office so I can clearly see them and remember. It so hard to handle all the details with this disease and even tougher without the memory I used to have.
Perhaps this good diet will help my memory, too. I sure hope so.
Kayda
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Where can you buy the flavored Stevia? I get horrible sweet cravings and Stevia is the perfect sweet tooth satisfyer.
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I eat tons of sugar and ice cream and cookies!!!!!
I have been doing great for years now.
The ONE WAY I have amended my diet since getting sick is:
I add the herb rosemary to as many meals a week as I possibly can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ledum is a relation of rosemary but without the toxicity.
Rosemary can kill you- it can be poisionous and liver toxic in large quantities, so I don't do rosemary tea or overdo it. But I DO add rosemary from the garden into as many meals a week as I can. Luckily my husband and daughters are used to the flavor*)!!!
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What does Rosemary do? I'm missing something. ARe you saying you can eat all the sugar you want as long as you eat Rosemary?
Kayda
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don't eat anything that comes in a box.
I am no saint but do try to only eat what God grew. Skip the middle aisles & shop produce,dairy and meat department.
Blessings Dana
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Rosemary is anti-viral and anti-bacterial.
"Rosemary is for remembrance", remember?
That is for real- it helps keep the brain clear and memory clear. With me, I was going into dementia and also had progressive weakening I believe is from a TBE virus co-infection, which Ledum very close to rosemary- is a treatment for. Rosemary is free and grows in my yard and it can't hurt as long as I don't down it in tea. The oils can be toxic, even fatal, in large doses.
But I just think of those deer that manage not to get what I got living in these woods- and it is because I am convinced of all the things in what THEY eat- all th ose plants with anti-bacyterial, anti-viral properties. Rosemary is a powerful plant containing antioxidant phenolic acid. It is also a potent anti-inflammatory and I have massive inflammation still (if I go off abx!!).
ALSO, I used to think aromatherapy was BUNK- but even SMELLING rosemary (or traditionally lavendar as well, people put lavendar sachets under their pillows!) can make your cortisol levels go down!!! I will post that on another thread-
re Sugar- that is just because I enjoy sugar and sugar foods- and all kinds of food- and I led a life from Heck when I was really sick and want to enjoy things as much as I can!!! I think I **** off people in our local support group because when people start telling newbies "Don't eat this don't eat that!" I always chime in with, "Eat whatever you want, I eat tons of sugar, it's individual!" But WHO KNOWS maybe I would be in full remission if I cut that out*!*! (I don't really believe that btw*! Take care, Best wishes, Sarah
1: J Agric Food Chem. 2007 Feb 9; Links Characterization of Topical Antiinflammatory Compounds in Rosmarinus officinalis L. Altinier G, Sosa S, Aquino RP, Mencherini T, Loggia RD, Tubaro A. D.M.R.N., University of Trieste, Via A. Valerio 6, 34127 Trieste, Italy, and Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University of Salerno, Via Ponte Don Melillo, 84084 Fisciano (Salerno), Italy.
The topical antiinflammatory activity of three extracts at increasing polarity (n-exane, chloroform, and methanol) from the leaves of Rosmarinus officinalis L. (Labiatae) has been tested using the croton oil ear test in mice. Both the n-hexane and the chloroform (CE-1) extracts from the leaves showed a dose-dependent activity, the last one possessing an antiinflammatory potency similar to that of indomethacin, the nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drug used as a reference drug (ID50 = 83 and 93 mug/cm2, respectively). The bioassay-oriented fractionation of CE-1 led to the identification of tritepenes, ursolic acid, oleanolic acid, and micromeric acid as the main antiinflammatory principles. Furthermore, the CE-1 extract obtained from the residue of the steam distillation of the leaves (extract A) showed the same antiinflammatory potency of CE-1, suggesting this waste product as a source of antiinflammatory products. Keywords: Rosemary; Rosmarinus officinalis L; topical antiinflammatory activity; ursolic acid; oleanolic acid; micromeric acid.
PMID: 17288440
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