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I have been on I.V. antibiotics for three years and orals for two years. My digestive system has had it and I'm not significantly better. My husband thinks I should try rife but I have read it is like being next to high voltage power lines. I am desperate for something besides antibiotics and would like to try it but don't want to end up with any more problems than I have now. Your thoughts are appreciated.
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I don't know and I don't want to find out!!!
Some alternative therapies I would rec'd to people, some I would even consider trying one day, but Rife is in my No Way Ever category!!!
I know some people here swear by it though, but I don't know anyone who was ever cured by one!!! Or anyone who has kept using one for years!!! (In person I mean, on here I haven't met people in real life so I put them in a different category!)))
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I have never used the rife machine, but I understand the doctor who invented it in the 1940s did so to eliminate the viruses that he believed caused cancer.
He was laughed out of the AMA and died a mysterious death when a relatively young man.
Mind you, I haven't researched this, but it's what I've been told.
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Cause? Unlikely Cure? Possibly
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The stories I read about Royal Rife indicate that rife technology had the potential to eliminate cancer cells .
I will share this: lyme disease , probably puts us ( IMO) at increased risk for cancer because our white cells ( which are inhabited by parasites ) can not function efficiently .
There may be some who disagree , but my doctor expressed that concern rather clearly .
White cells are supposed to destroy tumor cells .
The exceptional results that some lyme people have had leads me to think that rife does not have a negative effect on the immune system at all.
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I have never heard of a Rife machine causing Cancer or any other disease. Both my wife and I have used one for several months.
She uses it for Lyme which has brought her symptoms down to just occasional joint pain. The joint pain goes away after treatment.
I have used it for H Pylori which it eliminated after six treatments.
It puts out specific frequencies which target whatever bacteria you set it for. It is nothing like being near a high voltage powerline. Its output is more comparable to standing next to your cordless phone except you are exposed to lower and less potentially harmfull frequencies.
Rife machines are not known to cause anyone to lose their Liver,Gallbladder or other organs like some of the more conventional Lyme treatments.
I put antibiotics in my "use only if everything else fails catagory". It is all in how you assess the risk. I would rather use something that has no known side effects than something that has a known risk of side effects. That seems safer to me. But, that is just my opinion.
The Lyme Rife Yahoo group is a great place for more info.
I hope you get better however you treat it.
D Bergy
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Good question! The answer is that probably not for 2 reasons:
1) The need to rife to control symtoms decreases over time as the bacterial load decreases. For example: Doug of the Doug coil started off rifing over 14 years ago 1-2 times per week. Now he rifes only 2-3 times per year.
2) We live in a fairly constant 60 hertz electromagnetic field from all the 60 hertz power in our houses and at work. If I don't have cancer by now, I don't think I'll get it.
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You will never hear anyone with any sense say "I was cured of a disease by using a Rife machine."
If you do, you are making a claim that the Rife machine is a medical treatment which would be illegal. You could technically get in trouble by saying "I cured my Scurvy by eating oranges" since oranges are not classified as a drug. Not likely to happen but technically possible.
Only approved medical treatments, devices, drugs can legally claim to cure. It has nothing to do with the actual result of any unapproved treatment.
Most anyone who believes they were cured by any alternative method will simply say "I am symptom free." But most will simply keep their positive conclusions to themselves. It is much safer that way.
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Dr Rife was 83 when he died, and he did not die of cancer.
Most of the history can be found here, for any who are curious... http://www.rife.org/Posts: 714 | From San Antonio TX | Registered: Oct 2004
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To be honest, At the state of health I was in when I started Rife I didn't really care what happened to me because I was so bad.
After 19 months, the only thing that happened was that I got better. Cured, who knows and if something should happen to me later on, at least I had the additional time and felt great during that time.
I'm not trying to down play your fears because I had them too, I'm just saying that I was at a point where my life was totaly miserable and I would have tried anything.
All My Best, Scott
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We can certainly relate to the feelings you describe!
I look back at the meds I was taking and their toxicity, the need for constant liver monitoring. That treatment has risks too.
Then there is the cost and the constant insurance problems. Added to that, they weren't working very well and we were'nt getting that much better.
I was fast approaching the point where I would be unable to do my work and would be unemployable. If you think this is hard to beat when you have income and insurance, what would it be like as an umployed homeless couple?
I am using Rife machinery that would totally scare most of those who are comfortable with today's versions of the Rife Machine.
I combined Shortwave Diathermy of the physical therapy type with the Rife technology. This means applying enough 27mhz RF energy to the area being treated to cause very noticable warmth! The Rife signal rides on top of this diathermy energy. It is not something that you could buy.
Am I taking huge risks? Many probably think so, but I do have extensive safety data from over 7 decades of mainstream physical therapy practice to refer to. The Diathermy part isn't exactly experimental.
It has totally gotten rid of the pain for myself and my wife, too. There are still some symptoms that start coming back if we are away from it for too long on vacations, so I would hesitate to use the 'Cured' word.
Still even if there were significant risks, I have to weigh them against where I would be as an unemployed, umployable homeless person trying to get Lyme treatment from this sick and debased medical system.
I'll take my chances with my 'DiaRife'.
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Scott, Your words express the desperation many of us feel at times. THERE ARE NO EASY ANSWERS for any of us .
I do not believe ANY person I know could really believe what this life is like. Sometimes I REALLY wish my loved ones could live it a week so they would think I am a sain to ytry so DA-- hard to be a cheerful person in such a miserable body . It is a living nightmare .
I have seen many people try things that seemed almost nutty to me to get well . Who cam blame anyone for wanting to be out of this prison? It is truly a prison .
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Ernie, you are always so tactful and articulate and polite in your explanations. I bet you are a smart , mild mannered, calm, engineer guy who wears glasses and speaks four languages .
quote:Originally posted by D Bergy: You will never hear anyone with any sense say "I was cured of a disease by using a Rife machine."
If you do, you are making a claim that the Rife machine is a medical treatment which would be illegal. You could technically get in trouble by saying "I cured my Scurvy by eating oranges" since oranges are not classified as a drug. Not likely to happen but technically possible.
No! It's not that bad in 'amerika', yet!
As long as nobody can prove that you're receiving some kind of favors from the manufacturers, you can say anything you want, according to the first ammendment.
I say all the time that Sauna was inastrumental in my cure. And that ...'celebrex'... came very close to sending me to the emergency room! And artimesia anua cured my babesia! And nobody has a ..'patent'.. on it.
Not only that-- nobody can even arrest me if I were to say, "Ithaca beer cured my babesia", even though I'd be a liar and would be aptly described by a 7-letter starting with a-s-, as long as I was not being given anything in return for saying this.
quote:Only approved medical treatments, devices, drugs can legally claim to cure. It has nothing to do with the actual result of any unapproved treatment.
Making a statement that you were cured by something is not even necessarily making a claim.- it's expressing an opinion. Your delivery, though, can make it a very helpful statement for others battling a similar illness.
This is why we shouldn't trust something way-out that we read on this site or other sites. We have to consider the p;oster may be a "troll"- if so, this would certainly be discovered DaveS
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If you have the means, you could defend your first ammendment right in a long drawn out court battle. Of course, you would be financially devastated but you would probably eventually win the case.
You are right. Nobody is going to bother the average person no matter what he claims. These problems are usually reserved for a credible doctor or researcher. If you write a book on alternative treatments you had better have plenty of disclaimers and always make the statement "always consult a doctor for health problems", even if you do not believe that you should.
We have more freedom of speech as average people but if you are an AMA member you better be carefull.
I know of no case of Rife causing Cancer. I have no idea why that was questioned. It has been used as a treatment for Cancer, but it does not work in all cases. I have heard of quite a few people that claim to have been cured of Cancer using Rife but many others that have not been cured. You have to dig a bit to find the Cancer testimonials.
There are some wild claims about Rife that need to be taken with a grain of salt. I believe from experience that it works much better for many conditions than most people would think. But, it is not a cure all and will not eliminate disease from the planet. It does work well for Lyme and that is my opinion.
D Bergy
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Since I can't stomach the abx anymore & am allergic to the injectables & IV is not an option for me right now...
I would rather take my chances with the cancer risks with rife... IF there are in fact any-
than give my body over to let the lyme & co-infections let them have their way unchecked with me.
Just my 2 cents
Blessings Dana
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