I tried Florastor. So many people spoke well of it on this and other sites, so I asked my naturopathic physician if I could try it. But I did not have her muscle test is on me. It really did a number on my gut. I lost all of my good flora.
Since then I have gone up and down. My chiropractor has me take dates and figs with my probiotic. That helped for a while, until it brought all my fungus back.
This is the pits. Constipation, gurgley stomach. The EAV practioner said I had Aspirgillus, and a sundry of molds as well as rickettsia.
Next week I see LLMD in San Francisco.
Deb
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Hi Deb,
I don't understand how Florastor could cause you to 'lose all your good flora'. I am also wondering what evidence you have that it did? Have you had stool tests to ascertain this, or are you coming to this conclusion on your own?
How much Florastor were you taking?
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Oh, I forgot to mention. I took 1 capsule and the reaction was immediate.
My intestinal condition is fragile.... apparently so after this experience.
Deb
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We are all different and perhaps you can't tolerate S.B for whatever reason. A good way to find out the exact state of all your gut flora, good and bad, might be the CDSA 2.0 by Great Smokies.
Dried fruits are not low-carb and are full of sugar, which is yeast promoting. You may perceive that as a judgment, which it is not meant to be at all. But, most LLMDs recommend a low carb diet and advise us to avoid things like dried fruit. Dried dates are virtually pure sugar, not good for gut flora if you're on antibiotics.
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We are each different. I get violently ill on Theralac, but others swear by it.
Could this also have been a die-off reaction?
In some alternative circles, figs and dates are used to make the body more alkaline. That might have been the rationale here.
A friend of mine who developed terrible GI issues from antibiotics or something (her LLND is still testing) recommended mastic gum which has helped her symptomatically a lot.
Are you going to be treated for the Aspergillus?
Please let us know how you are doing.
Jill
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I agree - it is very unlikely that Florastor would cause you to lose good bacteria. Maybe it was actually killing off the bad stuff that was there and fighting to kick it out? It sounds to me like conclusions are being jumped to here that are a bit of a leap.
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Hi,
I used florastor and had it vega tested and it tested well for me, this was 5-6 years ago, I had no idea I had lyme, and was not on antibiotics.
I got VERY ill on it, I went stark raving MAD from the healing from it. I was taking one capsule a day. I also got flu like sickness, and was just
sooooo sick. Like a truck ran over me. I called the ND and he said that it was fine for me, and I was not sensitive to it, it was a very
strong healing crisis. I kept at it and within 3 weeks or so, my bowels were so good, my skin was fabulous, just so clear and wonderful.
I am allergic to sacremicies cervaise, the yeast that is used to make many kefir's, I get asthma from it.
I am ok with the Florastor, this product is sacromecies boulardi.
I am so sensitive to things, so always get things tested with a ND that does accurate Vega testing.
I was taking a product once that was digestive enzymes and was getting asthma from it, I kept at it because I thought it was a healing crisis.
It was not, I found out from a ND that I was reacting to the Aspergillus Orzaye in it, it was a mold enzyme that is commonly used
in plant enzymes.
Vega testing is very good for me, as long as I use the ND that is accurate with the Vega testing.
ALSO, I dont think florastor is a probiotic, it is also not to be taken with antifungals like Diflucan or nystatin. I think my ND said it goes into the intestines and gobbles up the bad guys, he had me on another probiotic, like an
acidophilus product.
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Saccharomyces Boulardi is a fungus, not a bacteria, which is why you shouldn't take Diflucan or Nystatin with it.
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Hi Deb. My son is having a similar reaction as you. I have been trying to pulse it because of his reaction. The first day he looked like a truck hit him and probably felt that way too! He complained of stomach pain, headache, and a stiff neck. This is his typical herx reaction. So I figured we were killing something.
This was two weeks ago. I have been giving it three times a week. Now when he takes it his neck is stiff a little but not as bad. And the other symptoms he says is alright.
So for him it was a healing reaction, IMHO.
Hope you feel better soon, Karen
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Gayle made the first step in extending her hand. And I thanked her. This is such a lonely disease, and it occupies such a big chunk of our lives, physically and emotionally. I know I may have been defensive of my chiropractor's care, since he has bailed me out of situations that an LLMD or holistic dentist has put me in. Had I not decided to tweek his recommendation I wouldn't have placed myself in the position that I am in now. We have both apologized. We are big girls!!
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Dear Jill, Scott, Dll, Health, Lymetoo, and Kgg-
Thank you all for your input and concerns. I also appologize for my defensiveness with my chiropractor's protocol. He has raised my blood pressure from 80/50 to 105/65. He has resolved my H. pylori with root vegetables, and he has really earned my respect.
The reasoning behind taking dates and figs with the probiotics is that the sugar is a good growth medium for the probiotics. And it worked!!! It worked until I tried tweeking it with the Florator. Then my gut went back to gurgley, and my food allergies worsened as did the constipation.
My terminology of loosing my good bacteria came from my chiropractor. How accurate this is, I don't know. Perhaps it was a healing crisis.. Perhaps an imbalance in the flora. What ever it was, I am back to relying on colonics.
The products I am taking for my Aspergillus and yeast are the Sanum products prescribed by my ND. I do feel the die-off and my nose starts to dry up and my sinus burn is relieved.
My chiropractor also wanted me to take solely Sesame seed oil, 1 tsp twice daily for fungal and yeast. It doesn't quite kick it. But I do get a magnificent die-off on tooth #8 where the osteomyolitis is.
Kgg- what is IMHO?
Thank you all for your input. Blessings to all
Debbie
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