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trails
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Hi everyone,
[hi]

long time no see---I was healing up from my miracle surgery and was walking the hills of san fran as I recouped.

Now I need your help again.

Long story short---they moved my bladder over and sewed it to my psoas muscle. the stitches holding it there have supposedly disolved.

I am having realllllllyyyyyyyyyy bad hip/groin pain. I have had it for almost 2 weeks now. (am 5 weeks post op almost) nothing is wrong with the urinary tract, so surgeons dont know what to do.

I am sure the psoas muscle is spasming out of control. I am on valium all the time, but it barely works. I have barely been walking for a week. and I walked every day post-op up and down hills in all kinds of weather.

Do you have any hints how to release the psoas? which positions are best?
thanks a bunchio,
trails

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Hey Trails honey,

You might try hydroxyzine, an antihistimine that is often used as a smooth muscle relaxer. I have interstitial cystitis and would be in big trouble without the hydroxyzine.

I am wondering if a skilled massage therapist might be able to work the muscle groups which are connected to that muscle and give you some relief. I am sure you would try just about anything to get help.

If I can think of anything else, I will PM you.

Blessings,
Janet

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Yes, a massage therapist could release the psoas for you however definitely would need to be careful about the new location of your bladder.

One of the techniques I have learned involves the client laying on the table on their back with knees up and together to release tension on the psoas...while in this position the therapist makes contact with the psoas muscle and then the client ever so slowly slides the foot on the side being treated down the table until the leg is almost straight - then slides the foot heel first towards the glute on that side and that is it.

It can be amazingly intense.

As well, a therpist who is certified in 'Structural Integration' or Rolfing most likely would also have some very effective ideas.

Sorry you are in so much pain. The psoas is an infamous muscle...it can get very tight and can be painful to release without a bladder being connected to it.

Hope you find relief very soon! [Wink]

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Thanks janet-- I cant take anything that relaxes the bladder just now. just came off 3 weeks with a foley catheter and the risk of urinary retention is very high if I use meds like that. [Frown]

but you and Lymied are right---skilled massage therapy has helped some. Had some Thai massages and reflexology that were helpful, but they are back in the city and I dont live there any longer. I do have massage lined up tomorrow but I dont have faith the woman will know what to do. she is great for deep swedish, but i cant have that in this area right now.

Wish I had pics of the technique you are talking about lymied--hard for me to picture, but I think I got it.

i have done lots of lying with knees up but it sometimes makes things WORSE! it is like if you had a charlie horse and just let your leg dangle==gives it more room to freak out.

keep the suggestions flowing---every bit does help!
thanks,
trails

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hi kiddo; been thinking of you.

uffda; hurting for you! i went to NIH's medlineplus.org to see if i could find anything for you on this specific muscle ... NOTHING shown at all in 4 different searches there.

sending you my thoughts/prayers for permanent relief; specially trained massage therapists sound the best for you.

could you stand having internal ultrasound in that area? i had something similar years back that helped me. [group hug] [kiss] [group hug]

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Hi trails!

I am really sorry you are going through this. I have had major problems with my psoas in the past. Two things have helped me greatly, wait, three (lol lyme brain).

1. Roll up a tea towel or washcloth to approx 1-2" diameter. Lie on back with knees bent and feet on floor with the roll placed directly along from the lower tailbone to lower spine, i.e. running along the spine. This took some pressure off for me instantly and I always did it when I was desperate for relief and it seemed to help, even if it didn't solve the problem.

2. A good myofascial release therapist who knows the specific moves to release the psoas. I wish I could remember them all. There were a couple really good ones that were specific to the technique of myofascial release and unfortunately impossible to repeat alone. SO beneficial.

3. Oh geez, I forgot number three....arrrgh...lyme brain...okay give me a second.....um....

Fogive me...my brain just won't remember but I will be abck if it hits me what the heck the third thing was.

Really hoping you feel better and sending you lots of good wishes and energy...

Alison

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