randibear
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I bought some of those strips where you measure your urine and saliva for acidity.
I'm pretty much normal as far as saliva goes, but my urine is so acidic it comes out below 5. I mean the color is pale yellow on the strip.
Is there anything I can do to get the urine back to the normal 6.5 to 7.5 which they said was normal (the woman at the health food store said this was normal).
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and what are your concerns, if pain, and you are a chick, please pm me, i have some ideas to help.
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randibear
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female here. I have the usual lyme symptoms -- major headache, joints, eyes, mostly in the neck. However, if you touch me anywhere I'll scream. Muscles stay that sore to touch.
The woman at the health food store got concerned about my test and said I needed this, that, and by the time she got finished, she was trying to sell me a couple of hundred dollars worth of supplements. All, supposedly, to cure this acidic urine.
She kept saying all illnesses thrive in acidic environment, cancer, you name it. She made it sound like I was a walking toxic dump!! Scared me to death.......
I'm not really sure if it's bad, what to do, or what...
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clairenotes
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Gosh, I thought to bring the body to alkaline from acid, you simply had to take a pH balancing formula. That is ONE product.
There is a product called Alkala that I used to use, which is nice. Google it, if interested. Also, I have heard that by simply adding some baking soda to your drinking water would also be effective, but I don't have the information on dose. Maybe someone else can provide this.
Also, try to eat foods that are more alkalinizing, if not already. That definitely helps me.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by randibear: "However, if you touch me anywhere I'll scream. Muscles stay that sore to touch." ----------------------------------
Have you been checked for bartonella? I heard that skin or muscles that sore could indicate bart.
"The woman at the health food store got concerned about my test and said I needed this, that, and by the time she got finished, she was trying to sell me a couple of hundred dollars worth of supplements. All, supposedly, to cure this acidic urine."
Yep! I would say it's a money issue with the health food store lady. Google acid/alkaline and find the product or products you need.
You're not going to die anytime soon!
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randibear
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My igenex came back negative for babiosis and erch something or other and barb. The one lyme duck I went to said I just had plain ole straight lyme.
I only had the one igenex test and never had another one.
Can co-infections show up later in lyme? Don't know much about them.
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I am curious. What does acidic urine indicate? I thought urine acidity varied normally. I understand saliva pH represents the body's acidity and would seem to me the better indicator.
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clairenotes
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D Bergy -- I am not really qualified to answer the question, but I will say that while there may be more variation with urine, it still needs to be in a better range. And from my experience, I felt best when it was closer to 7.0 (as you can test throughout the day, if desired, with the pH strips). My personality feels softer. Kind of strange, but true for me.
I was also told by my naturopath that urine tends to be the most acidic in the morning, perhaps because it concentrates during the night. But if you test in the afternoon, at around 2:00 pm when urine should be the most alkaline for the day, and it shows acidic, that would be a strong indicator for a pH balancing remedy.
Here is a link to Lisa's recent topic on acidic urine, which also includes a little more information on the inexpensive baking soda rx:
quote:Originally posted by randibear: Can co-infections show up later in lyme? Don't know much about them.
YES!!!
Did you mean babesia or bartonella when you said "barb."
Our urine can be more .. or less .. acidic according to what we have most recently consumed.
Eat something green and it will be less acidic.
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clairenotes
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Claire said:
"I was also told by my naturopath that urine tends to be the most acidic in the morning, perhaps because it concentrates during the night. But if you test in the afternoon, at around 2:00 pm when urine should be the most alkaline for the day, and it shows acidic, that would be a strong indicator for a pH balancing remedy."
This information was given to provide a possible opportune time of day to test pH, due to a general trend per a naturopath I consult with off and on. He is an N.MD with a strong interest and focus on pH.
I am sure there are variations, particularly if one loads up on pepsi's etc., prior to 2:00 pm that might serve to skew the trend.
Claire
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Like Lymetoo said, ifyou eat something green, it will raise your pH.
What I currently use is Green Magma (young dried barley plant). I take that 2 or 3 times a day, and my pH hovers in the 7.0 range, even if I can't eat as well as I should.
(Yes, Green Magma smells like grass clippings and tastes and looks a bit like pond water, but I only have to mix about 1/4 teaspoon with about 2 ounces of water. It isn't a big deal for me.)
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I too went through this with my N.D. He suggested on working on it through diet first. If you do a google search on acidic/alkaline diets, you will get a listing of which foods fall on which side.
Going heavier on the alkaline side is suppose to help with this, but as someone already said, it does fluctuate through out the day.
What are the guidelines of this diet? An alkaline diet is composed of approximately 75-80% alkaline foods and 20-25% acid foods.
Condiments -- Moderate acid: ketchup, mayonnaise, table salt. Most acid: jam, mustard, soy sauce, vinegar, white sugar, aspartame, molasses, sugar cane, barley malt syrup, honey, maple syrup, brown rice syrup, yeast.
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You have to consider which foods are "acid forming" and which are "alkaline forming" For instance Lemons and Limes are acidic but are "alkaline forming" in the body.
I have read in several places that adding the juice of a half a lemon twice per day in your water will help a lot. (I try to drink lemon water whenever possible) You can also get alkalized water (Evamore has a ph of 9) but that can get expensive.
It's best to make the modifications to the diet - this is basically the same as the Lyme diet, anyway, except grains are acidic. We can't eliminate acid foods altogther but we need to eat more alkaline than acid.
The worst foods: Soda (diet or regular) is the absolute worst thing you can drink. It has so much acid PLUS it's bad for Lyme (the acid plus either the sugar or sugar substitute). All sugar substitutes are acidic except Stevia and they should be avoided for many reasons. Coffee is very acidic - but I cold brew mine in a coffee toddy which removes 67% of the acid. Plus I use Evamore water to make the coffee. All processed foods are acidic and so is sugar.
Good foods: Most vegetables and fruits are alkaline. The most alkaline (forming) are watermelon, cantelope and lemons/limes. Olive Oil is good (I use it for salad dressing - just EVOO and sea salt). Sea Salt is alkaline (regular salt is acidic) My husband and I juice vegetables and this helps me stay alkaline (veg juice with tomato in it like V-8 is acidic, unfortunately)
It takes a while to "learn" this way of eating, but I plan to eat this way the rest of my life. As someone said earlier a sick body loves to be acidic.
I did a lot of internet research and bought a couple of books. You will find a lot of conflicting information about what is alkaline and what is acidic (for instance, older info says lemon/limes are acidic which they are but we need to focus on "alkaline forming") Very confusing, I know.
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Persistently low urine pH is an interesting marker while you are detoxing. The only way metals can come out of the body is in acidic solutions. Metals are soluble in acidic solutions. In alkaline solutions, they precipitate out. The only way the body can get metals out of the body is by making the urine acidic. You can use this as a monitor.
You can alkalinize, not necessarily by giving bicarb (Alkala) but by taking minerals, That's the way to properly alkalinize because minerals knock mercury and other metals off their binding sites and facilitate their way out.
The ideal medial values, I was taught by Dr. K., is urine 6.2, saliva 6.67. (Revici - 20 years of research) It someone is detoxing, it ends up somewhat up, and it cycles during the day. There is a biorythm where it varies a little bit by a couple of points. But the median should be 6.2.
If you check the cholesterol and it goes up from where it was, say 180 to 230, the ph dips to 5.8, you know that there is another slew of metals coming ouf of the tissues moving through the blood. That's when should stay on detox, also taking plenty of mop-up agents (such as chlorella, destroxin, etc.) that I have talked about for years.
In general, if you feel miserable, you are recirculating toxins and don't pay enough attention to the mop-up.
Take care.
All the above from our own experience -- lived through it and made it out of the dark!
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Do you drink soda? If so, stop. Too much soda makes urine very acidic and painful. Get some cranberry juice. It is a great cleanser for the bladder and will help make your urine pH more alkaline and balanced.
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GiGi
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Cranberries, plums, prunes are acid forming and remain acidic in the body.
Raw fruits become acid forming when sugar is added to them. In fact, all foods with added sugar become acidic.
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clairenotes
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So many variations on healthy pH! To further muddy the waters, here are some other values:
""Potential hydrogen" (pH) is the measure of hydrogne-ion concentration, and ranges from 0-14. Neutral is 7. Anything above is considered alkaline... anything below is considered acid." This is where I must have gotten the number 7.
In reading further...
"Each system of the body has its' own range... saliva 6.4 - 6.8; Skin 4.0 - 6.0, etc.
Urinary pH can range from 4.5 to 8.0. A general guideline for healthy urinary pH is between 6.5 and 6.8."
According to my research, blood pH is not a good indicator of overall pH because it has to stay within a closer range 7.35 - 7.45.
Though this research seems solid to me, keep in mind that it comes from the makers of alkala, a pH balancing formula I used in the past.
The reason I had to use a pH balancing formula was to clear the acid from my tissues due to long-term chronic illness. My diet was strongly alkaline and had been for several years. It did not come from food.
It was my understanding that microbes can create problems in pH. Detoxing might make this situation worse temporarily (and now to consider the metals component).
Finally, I once had an ayurvedic doctor tell me that all I had to do was get some chlorophyll and place it in my drinking water and drink it for a month to balance pH. I hesitated to mention it earlier, since I had not tried it myself. I think this could be a good solution, too.
I am only reporting what the literature I have says, which could always be off, somehow. I do know that my experience was real, regarding the acidity with an alkaline diet, whether the values are correct or not.
Claire
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visionoftruth is correct.
I get lots of "alkalizing drops propaganda" in the mail. Whoa, expensive, Oh, and how they try to say that's what all diseases, cancers are from... trying to say that when you alkalize you'll NEVER get sick.
I haven't met anyone who was cured of anything by the drops. The company quotes "satisfied customers". But can't find them on Internet search.
No need to get rooked into the hype, just go in your frig, or cabinet and get your baking soda. (that's sodium bicarbonate)
My grandfather used to take a teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water daily. died at age 91.
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quote:Originally posted by randibear: I bought some of those strips where you measure your urine and saliva for acidity.
I'm pretty much normal as far as saliva goes, but my urine is so acidic it comes out below 5. I mean the color is pale yellow on the strip.
Is there anything I can do to get the urine back to the normal 6.5 to 7.5 which they said was normal (the woman at the health food store said this was normal).
Are you drinking any kind of soda pop? Diet or otherwise ?
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