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I have been seeing a lyme dr in Missouri for 6 months now. No Ab's seem to make any difference at all. I have had this for around 12 years but my symptoms are not real bad yet. I have made it this far without too much trouble. Still have occational symptoms show up.
Just wondering what other kinds of alternative treatment people have been having luck with? IV AB's are just too expensive for me to try, besides, i have a feeling they wouldn't help me anyway.
I have been trying Vit C at 5000mg for about 2 months. Cant say that i notice a difference with that either.
Jerry
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Hi Jerry,
Alternative care is really nutritional care in that the herbs, homeopathy, diet changes, etc are all designed to work with and support your body and build up and enhance your immune system.
As such, you usually don't have a "quick" change in condition. It takes time to make the necessary changes in your body but 6 weeks should be seeing some definite improvement.
Also, alternative care should be looking at the whole body to determine all possible causes of your illness. The beauty of natural antibacterial and antiviral herbs (or foods) is that they are not limited to just one type of bacteria/virus. They are always broad spectrum.
Ultimately, it is our own immune system that must heal. This is true even with antibiotics because abx job is to kill. So even if you treat the traditional way, your best bet is to also be doing everything you can to support your body during the ordeal.
If your body is tolerating 5000mg of Vit C, then you must need it. Have you ramped up the C to the point of diahrrea? You are supposed to do that in order to determine your exact need for C. Of course, at the point of diahrrea, back down to the next highest level of C.
I have never reached my limit of C (I take 3000mg) because I have heavy metal toxicity and take lots of chorella. The C must be taken away from the chorella as the C can make the chorella drop the metals before they exit the body.
The regimen gets tough to follow sometimes, but I am doing well.
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I am of the opinion that conventional care (ABX) alone never leads to lasting resolution of Lyme disease. We must incorporate alternative and integrative care and deal with metals, parasites, neurotoxins etc. which are all adding to our conditions.
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I have done many Vit C drips at 5,000 mg each and they didn't help me either, I am also not noticing much improvement with ABX after almost 3.5 months either...
There are some very goog alternatives out there, some better than ABX.
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Dear Jerry,
I, too, have symptoms that aren't so horrible as many that I've seen discussed on this site and others.
I have looked into many alternative treatments for Lyme. I had 1 month of Doxy about 6 years after getting Lyme, which helped some. Wearing the NoIR glasses recommended in the Marshall Protocol helped a LOT, as well as cutting out foods with Vit. D in them and as much light avoidance as I could live with.
I started with TAO-free Cat's Claw, which, in 6 months, didn't reduce my level of Lyme at all, according to blood tests at the Bowen Clinic in Florida when it was doing the qRIB test (can't be gotten now). Symptomatically, I was a bit better, and still take it, although I plan to switch to the whole herb soon.
I'm now started on Buhner's protocol from the book Healing Lyme. If you decide to do that route, be sure to join at planetthrive.com so you can read the updates to his book. He has stopped recommending Artemisinin for Babesia, for example, and this is posted at that website.
I looked long and hard at the Marshall Protocol, but decided to do the herbs at this time. If they work for me, I'm a happy person.
Best to you,
Cass A
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I have used or am currently using the following health and lyme protocols:
candida elimination heavy metal elimination allergy elinination various detox products various vitamins and supplements Salt/C to cross cell barriers Bartonella Homeopathics Herbal antibiotics: artemisin, berberis, samento Cilantro to encourage crossing brain barrier Sota instruments blood purifyer Sota instruments mag pulser detoxer
I've had good responses to all of the above so far.
Best wishes for your healing.
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Since you asked for personal experiences,
I"m on month 4 of Stephen Buhner's herbal protocol (see book 'Healing Lyme, which you can find by clicking on the Amazon links to the left of this page), and I'm pretty much symptom-free. I was on 6 months of antibiotics before then, and early in my antibiotic treatment I was also on two months on the herbs. I had stopped the antibiotics for a month and relapsed very badly before going to herbs alone. Now, while on the herbs, I feel better than I did while on antibiotics and for me there are no side effects from the Buhner herbs compared to the bad side effects I had from antibiotics. I"m not going to stop taking the herbs for a long time though since I had such a bad relapse with the antibiotics despite feeling well.
However, I dont think it works as rapidly for most people. Several people on this forum are still on it 15 months later but feel really well while on the herbs.
My friend with Lyme, not on this forum, got symptom-free in 6 months of antibiotics AND Buhner protocol AND chinese herbs formulated by her accupuncturist, and several months after that is successfully attending an Ivy League school. She'd had 6 years of Lyme and was pretty badly disabled before she figured out it was Lyme.
Given that your antibiotics didn't work well it's possible that you're going to have a slower time with any other alternatives as well.
My LLMD thinks that people who dont get better right away have complicating factors besides just lyme: coinfections metals toxicity allergies exposure to toxic mold
GiGi, a poster on this forum, has a lot of information about all of the above in her posts.
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My LLMD thinks that people who dont get better right away have complicating factors besides just lyme: coinfections metals toxicity allergies exposure to toxic mold ==================
add yeast to the above!!
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Your LLMD sounds bright! It is too bad that so many are missing this truth!
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well, my LLMD got a lot of those ideas from Dr K, as did yours, I think.
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But when I hear people say that it took them X years to see a difference with antibiotics, I wonder if that could have been shortened if they could have had those other issues addressed as well.
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