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TIME TO SEE A SPECIALIST !! INFECTIOUS DISEASE OR DERMATOLOGIST.
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canbravelyme
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Lynne,
Can you call Dr. R.'s office and possibly get in sooner? It seems you are relentlessly suffering so much with no real professional help.
Do you have any plans on seeing a US ILADS doc? Or what about Dr. M. in Vancouver?
With best wishes,
Your canuck compatriot.
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I already saw a dermatologist with a big ego who did not help. he gave me acne cream which was even poorer in quality from the fucidn cream my idiot duck gave me. I am suffering like hell with this staph which won't go away. I need an oral abx as it is resistant. my duck referred me to another dermatologist but I am not optimistic I already saw one and wasted my time and money for the acne cream and for the cab to his office......... It frustrates me that I have to get a taxi each time , spend all my money and never get help.grrrrrrrr
Anyhow Travelling to BC is too $$ for me right now so I don't think i could see dr M. But maybe I should talk to him about the skin outbreak I know he is super smart.
I hope dr R can help me with this skin issue. Alyssa-- do you know if he treats other things besides lyme? Like could he treat the staph/ impetigo boils on my skin?
stymielymie
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my id doc gave me bactrimds to start and it went away. also helped the lyme.
docdave.
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Hi Lynne,
You really need a GP on your side. Can you find one? They just have to be open minded?
Dr. R. is a GP, and he consults with other MDs when he doesn't have the answer for something - which is a sign of at least a partly healthy ego - which is an important quality in a doctor. Arrogance is killer.
I would see whether I could see him sooner. Maybe he knows someone in TO who could follow up his work with you?
I'll PM / e-mail you soon. With best wishes,
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WAsh well then alcohol it then let dry well then if possible soak in hydrogen peroxide then let dry then put bagbalm on repeat everyday worked for me.
If you can get at area mix 1/4 clorox & 3/4 cup water and soak area then rinse then do the above steps.
Worked for me . But if this a raging staff probaly needs a old time MD who will give you could use Carbolic acid: An acidic compound that, when diluted with water, is used as an antiseptic and disinfectant. Heres a clip:
French chemist Louis Pasteur (1822-1895) helped to shed light on the source of infection by proving the existence of airborne microorganisms in the 1850s. English surgeon Joseph Lister (1827-1912) applied this new knowledge of bacteria to develop a successful system of antiseptic surgery.
Concluding that microorganisms in the air caused the infection of wounds, Lister developed an antiseptic system using carbolic acid. Wounds and surrounding areas were sprayed with the acid to destroy infectious organisms. Multiple layers of dressing were then applied to wounds to protect them from new invasion by bacteria. Lister's method of antisepsis proved to be effective and was eventually adopted by physicians worldwide.
Improvements on Lister's techniques soon developed. The carbolic spray was abandoned in the 1880s in favor of cleanliness, sterilization, and topical antiseptics (antiseptics applied directly to a surface). A final obstacle to surgical antisepsis--germs on the human hands--was overcome by the introduction of rubber gloves.
Some commonly used antiseptics are hydrogen peroxide, alcohol, boric acid, iodine, formaldehyde, and hexachlorophene. Heat is also an extremely effective antiseptic and, at appropriate temperatures, can be used to disinfect many materials.
My dad had a great big boil on his elbow years ago swelled bad I made him go see our old DR he gave him carbolic acid in a plastic bottle about thje size of a vitamin bottle anyway he was to mix one table spoon in water in square plastic tub about8inches high by 12inches long by 10inches wide half full warm water then put tablespoon of the stuff in and mix stir until disolved then soak elbow in it 3 days later it was healed just pink looking. remmber to rince well when done.
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Hi Everyone thanks for the great advice. Is the balm over the counter treepatrol? Like can I get it at shopper's drug mart etc? I have not heard of it b4 and am interested. Alchohol is only slightl bacteriostatic for this infection I put it on each day. But maybe adding hydrogen peroxide and the balm will do it.
Now carbolic acid, can any GP rx that ?
Dave-you were on oral bactrim? Do you know if topical bactriban is similar? My duck put me on topical fucidin and said it's supposedly the best but I feel it's very weak.
I have tonsillitis now from this too . so it did spread and started from a scratch. I sure wish I could get a culutre........... if this were a normal country.......oh Canada
treepatrol
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quote:Originally posted by citruslyme: Hi Everyone thanks for the great advice. Is the balm over the counter treepatrol? Like can I get it at shopper's drug mart etc? I have not heard of it b4 and am interested. Alchohol is only slightl bacteriostatic for this infection I put it on each day. But maybe adding hydrogen peroxide and the balm will do it.
Now carbolic acid, can any GP rx that ?
Dave-you were on oral bactrim? Do you know if topical bactriban is similar? My duck put me on topical fucidin and said it's supposedly the best but I feel it's very weak.
I have tonsillitis now from this too . so it did spread and started from a scratch. I sure wish I could get a culutre........... if this were a normal country.......oh Canada
Is the balm over the counter treepatrol?yes at pharmacy or walmart
Now carbolic acid, can any GP rx that ?yep I think I had the name right Dr would know.
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This is a homeopathic store in Canada and the US and it sells it. I don't think they require an rx.
But would it still be the same strength as the carbolic acid you were thinking of? when you clikc purchase it gives options for pellets or dilution--so dilution I'm thinking.
I am thinking homepathic stuff would be weak, but then again the acid can't be too strong either or else it will burn.
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Citrus, maybe this is more than skin deep? All the cream in the world might not help it, if your body/blood stream is carrying whatever this is.
Sounds like you need to make a scene at a doctors office. Since last summer? Way too long.
Pam
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Hi Pam Ive seen my doctor atleast 10 times and complained about it each time. he does nothing. finally after a year he decides to send me to a dermatologist. He sent me to one last fall and the cream the deram duck gave me made it worse.
when I complain about it-- he says its non specific.!!!!
I feel like I'm getting no help and our Canadian medical system is at its lowet point ever. It wasn't even this bad 3 years ago!
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I use Colloidal Silver frequently for topical infections.
It's cheap, easy to get from a supplement store, and I have found it to be highly effective.
It got rid of my daughter's ear infections in two applications, when three 10-day courses of oral antibiotics would not.
The BYU study says colloidal silver kills staph, although results of that study seem to be a bit controversial.
Good luck. I hope you find a solution soon!
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guys and gals----STOP.
your giving advice for treatment without a diagnosis.you can't treat till you know what it is.
young lady,citrus, you need to demand to your doctor you need a culture and scraping of the rash.also a swab of your throat culture and sensitivty. you also need blood cultures.blood cultures for systemic infection.(whole body)
if it is staph, it is now systemic for this long a period.
topical ointments won't help. bactrim ds is a sulfa drug and not the same as bacitracin ointment.
so now again, no treatment before diagnosis.\ no dx without cultures, blood,throat and skin. period!!!!!!!! topical treatments can make this spread without a known dx. hell it could be shingles, poison ivy anything period.
docdave
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This is a very interesting post since my family has been dealing with my brother who accquired MRSA on top of a host of long standing disease.
It started before the holidays with a rash type symptom on his leg which he was given a cream for.
By the first of Jan. he was admitted to the emergency room with a hematoma in his chest neck area the size of a basketball.Before I go any further I will add my brother is an alcoholic and substance abuser which contributed GREATLY to his condition.
By the time he was examined they ofcourse found the staph as well as extensive osteomyletis (chest and foot)a liver function down to 10%.Your basic train wreck.
They had to operate on the hematoma and the foot where the staph entered.Since the liver was down his body could'nt make the platelettes to clot and he bled out for 4weeks.5 weeks on life support.He survived and we got him home after he spent a couple of weeks in a nursing home.
He had 32 doctors 9 surgerys 300 units of blood still gets plateletts 600 labs stll infusing picc line abx collar bone removed(osteomyletis)
I just finished his IV flush and trip from the ID doc.We found out today he will have to be opened up again as the chest hasn't healed,still infectioned bone.
There are so many morals to this story for our family and others I wouldn't know where to begin.
My brother was a giant redwood of a man,who no doubt made bad choices .And even though he regularly went to AA it didn't help then.
He goes every day since he's been home even though he has no desire to drink ,everyone there can witness what this has done to him.
His life and ours is absolutely day to day now.While we were attending to him every day in the hospital my husband got poison ivy from our yard which he scratched and it developed a boil.
It cost him all of 180.00 for office visit and lab culture for staph just in case.It was neg..
My brother wouldn't ever go to the doctor for many reasons.Now we go to some kind of doctor almost everyday.He used to tell me making him go to the doctor or rehab would be like sacking a polar bear.He's 6 6' and was 290.He is 49 years old.
Now make that app. and demand a culture.Even though your probably in a lot better shape than my brother you will rest easier.Take Care,RG
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need to see an infectious disease doctor at this point.
a gp or dermatologist is useless.
if you are in college your school doc may be able to get cultures and refer you to a good id doc. the sooner they culture the quicker you get results. for staph it may take several days to week to get results of sensitivity.
if you'd like, you can pm me if the doc doesn't help and i can let you talk with my id doc.
he will tell you everything i have told you.
docdave
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I've had the same problem with staph. Oral antibiotics don't work at all. I've tried Bactroban ointment and it helped a little. The thing that has worked the best for me is actually an ointment I bought for my horse for cuts.
It's called ISP Ointment. It's just Iodine and Sulfur. It says it can be used on people as well as cats dogs and horses. It smells bad but works really good.
Kathy
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citrus, My brothers liver was shot long before the staph hit.Thats why I wanted you to know he was way behind the 8 ball by the time MRSA got to him.
So rest assured the docs hadn't treated anyone that neglected and SELF abused with all his problems before.
I think you will be fine once you get that culture done and properly treated.Don't let anyone steam roll you take a friend with you if need be and say you're not leaving that office until its done.
It took not even an hour doctor visit to check out my husband.
The moral of my brothers story is he drank and drugged himself to near death.It was a sobering experience for my 4 boys in college .No one ever starts out to end up like that.Take Care,RG
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