Topic: Went to ER -- doc gave me cipro, sent me home!!!
randibear
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guys, the pain under my left rib got so bad this morning (around 4) that I ended up in the ER. i was literally doubled over. It's right under the left rib around to the side. i have this awful stabbing pain under my RIGHT rib.
this duck did not take any blood, felt my stomach, took 2 x-rays, said I was constipated!!! god, I am so angry I could spit.
he said i had irritable bowel syndrome and was constipated!!! grrr.....
but just in case -- get this, he gives me cipro for two weeks, 500 twice a day.
my heart rate was 124 and my blood pressure was 124 over 76...pretty normal, but my temperature was almost 100. and for me, that's a fever, cause i am now running low, 96 to 97...so yep i had a fever, even tho he said i was normal...
i tried to tell him about lyme -- stupid, stupid me...he poopoohed it saying he had not seen any documented cases and that hospital had never been able to verify any of Igenex results....
i just spent about 600 bucks to feel like a complete fool.
i can't lay on my side, left or right, because of the pain. when i eat i feel like vomiting the food up, i'm so nauseaous, and i have diahhrea....ugh, i feel awful....
could this be a herx????
should i take the cipro?? i'm afraid of that drug...
grrrr. i feel so stupid......maybe i should just die and say there, i told you so.....
no blood work, no mri's, no cat scans, nothing, i mean nothing...
ah well, you can tell i'm po'd........
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ByronSBell 2007
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well if you have pain under you left and right rib then that is where you liver and spleen are. It could be herx, when and what ABX have you taken recently?
If you had fever then you immune system is fighting something...
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Geneal
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I didn't know they gave Cipro for an Irritable Bowel Syndrome episode...
Sorry you had such a bad day.
I am even sorrier that you didn't get any help.
It is a difficult decision to go to the ER to begin with.
I especially liked the ducks arrogant assumption of no documented cases of Lyme.
What a jerk!!!
I hope you get some relief soon.
Do you have a LLMD yet???
I am sending you healing thoughts and prayers.
Hugs,
Geneal
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randibear
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my llmd had me on ceftin (just 500 twice a day cause i can't tolerate much more than that), and something for yeast (nystatin). I have only taken about 3-4 days of the yeast but have taken the ceftin for about a month.
the er doc just said "well, in case, you do have something wrong, here take this and make an appt with an GASTRO and get scoped."
right, make an appt for a colonscopy and get reamed out, right.....grrrrr. as if that's going to make me feel better, yeah, uh huh.........
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randibear
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kendrick, hon, right now i'd like to take that chocolate bar and, well, you get the picture.......
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just don
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Randi bear,
You said maybe I should die and say,"see??" Well maybe you havent figured it out YET,,,but ducks BURY their mistakes. Yep they do, every one of them. next week they say new patient please. pay at window,IF ya die, another one yet.
Sorry ,it wont prove a thing,,,next week he would do and say the same as this week.
It is MUCH more exciting to get all well and then say, "SEE, It was lyme,,,even IF you dont believe!!"
I am sorry you are having this problem, I really am. I think our ideas here, of which I dont have one,is as good as the duck motel advice.
Hope you feel better real SOON!! Beings IB --just don--
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AZURE WISH
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I am so sorry you did not get any help.
I have had many bad er expereinces too. wasted alot of energy arguing.
Typically if I have sharp pain in those regions I dont know why and I go to the er (it had to be really bad for me to go in the first place)
I at least want my organ functions checked (like liver and kidney) all they need to do is a blood tests
I have never had a dr refuse me this ...even in the er
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How bout this scenario -- the ER doc could be right but for the wrong reasons.
Yes, you can actually be constipated and have diarrhea at the same time -- hubby has been there and done that. A partial intestinal blockage or a partially paralyzed ileus can cause this problem.
If you start having vomiting and/or the pain continues or gets worse after eating then you should probably get the stomach x-rays done again. Try an urgent care facility if there is one or ask your LLMD or PCP to write the orders so you can just do this outpatient at the hospital.
Hubby ended up having 5 sets of stomach x-rays during 5 ER visits plus 2 hospitalizations within a period of 6 weeks before his G.I. symptoms resolved. Never did know for sure if it was caused by the Lyme or the Norwalk like virus that was in the news this past January.
The NG tube to pump out his stomach helped but the G.I. function took 6 weeks to get back to normal.
Hubby and I have had many bad ER experiences. During the 1st hospitalization when he needed the NG tube the admitting physician first called me out of the room and told me he thought hubby had a psychiatric problem because he wasn't vomiiting correctly!!!!!
Has anyone checked to see if you have costochondritis? This is an inflammation where the ribs attach to the sternum. Is fairly common with Lymies and often flares up with changes in antibiotics.
Hope you get some answers soon.
Bea Seibert
P.S. If you are really upset then file a complaint with the hospital. Be prepared with some literature to educate them about Lyme and tickborne diseases.
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TerryK
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quote: my heart rate was 124 and my blood pressure was 124 over 76...pretty normal
That's not a normal heart rate if you are just sitting or standing. Anything over 100 is considered tachycardia unless you were doing some activity.
Hope you feel better soon. Terry
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Sorry you had such a bad ER experience with a DUCK! His actions speak louder than words. Writing that kind of script tells you he was trying to cover himself just in case!
We've had many a bad ER experiences, too! Oh, how I wish I could have billed them for their awful service. If I could, I'd be able to pay for my Lyme treatment.
Could you try castor oil packs over your liver?
Are you feeling any better?
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randibear
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you mean i could have a double whammy herx? i didn't know that...
i do know that i have bad, bad yeast and had been taking the meds for about 4 days i think. the red fingers had already started disappearing and the soreness in my muscles has gone way down.
can i start back on my meds, or not do them for awhile until things settle down?
i don't go to doc until the 16th.
i hate to keep starting and stopping my meds. i know it's not good for me.
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Man, so sorry you had such a bad experience. Hoping that you feel better soon. I've never heard of a double herx either. Egads, more reading.
Bea, how is your hubby doing now? Is he feeling any better yet?
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bettyg
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randi, i'd be POd too! i'm so sorry these ducks pooped on you. i'd file a complaint too.
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Randi, I have to agree with Bea Siebert - don't discount what the doc said just because you feel like things have been ``moving along''. I've ended up twice in the ER with an impacted bowel even though I was having bowel movements.
What can happen is that recent fecal material can move through the ``center'' of the colon, while older, harder stuff sort of sticks to the sides of the colon and accumulates there.
For me, I have to use something like Miralax (now an OTC ``laxative'') for a few days straight that actually DISSOLVES the crud. It isn't like other laxatives which just stimulate peristalsis - that won't get the job done when there is hard, accumulated material in the colon. At least not for me.
I also have chronic costochondritis and I can't believe your ER doc didn't even consider that as another possibility. Quite a few of us with Lyme have costochondritis, so.....
Just give this some thought, okay?
Tracy
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Rib cage pain SHOUTS Lyme. So painful - try hot water bottles. Make sure the tops are on!
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Hey just ignore all the advice up above and KEEP TAKING the CIPRO, and SOON you won't EVER have to worry about intestinal blockage again.
REALLY!
You could very well lose your whole intestine like I did and a couple of women here did from my duck who gave each of US Cipro too.
THAT is what Cipro does, gives you Colitis so bad you lose your intestine. BUT just think, you won't have to worry about blockage again. I don't anymore.
Course you won't be able to stand eating chocolate anymore. IT also gives you extreme diarhea.
I was hospitalized for several days with a blockage many years ago. AND THEY, the ducks, kept telling me I HAD to take a LOT of liquid, so I kept forcing it in, even though NOTHING was coming out either place. I just kept bloating up and I thought FOR SURE I was gonna die that time. It was super painful. I even had ministers come in and pray over me.
They were going to go in with exploratory surgery on a Wednesday morning, but it broke lose about 10 pm that Tuesday night.
That was my pre Lyme days AND my pre Cipro days. I had diverticulitis at the time. Which the CIPRO later turned into Acute Chronic Colitis and subsequently I had to have my WHOLE colon removed. My diverticulitis was cured; SURGICALLY.
So keep taking the Cipro and maybe you can get cured also. (Surgically). Then your pain will go away, and all you have to worry about is changing your units on a regular basis and get used to going poo from the front instead of from the rear.
Course then you may have to worry about YEAST on your belly skin occasionally. Plus more expense to survive. Other than that you are good to go.
randibear
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hey jim, i remember reading about your experience and decided "ain't no way, ever" am I filling that prescription.
I've had IBS all my life and have had colon polyps so bad I had them removed surgically twice!! ugh, i hate having that colonscopy every 5 years, but I've got to.
My hubbie said hey just get it filled ad if I get sick, i'll take it. ha, i ain't wasting the money on that drug.
next thing you know it will be on tv, "if you've ever taken cipro, call our lawyers...." you know the one......
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