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liz28
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Hi, this is a follow-up to a recent post on kissing, sex, and safety.

Many people who have recently written on this subject are married, or are still in the plotting stage.

How about if you are in love, have just started a relationship, are past the malt stage but not up to the commitment phase?

Don't want to ruin the whole thing with a SERIOUS TALK. But cannot give this to a new partner.

Have thought about asking him to take doxycycline or minocycline. Any suggestions?

Thank you! [dizzy]

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robi
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If you are going to ask him to take doxy or mino I assume he knows you have lyme, right?

It would be wrong NOT to talk about the seriousness of lyme and possible transmission. What about a condem? I think it is less like to transmit orally ............ but I am not a doc.......... just my opinion.

Also, doxy and mino have little or no effect on babs and bart.

Just my opinion,
robi

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Geneal
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I think protection is the name of the game....

There are other (worse) diseases passed between two consenting adults.

I would, however, share my diagnosis...

I guess I feel that I would like an opportunity to make choices for myself based on all the facts.

Health wise or other.

How wonderful to be in love...

Hugs,

Geneal

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liz28
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No, I'm serious. We have known each other for a year, but have been too shy to do anything. Also, there was a workplace conflict of interest until now.
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Congrats on finding someone worth wanting to have the talk with and when you think the time is right have the talk and let them research on-line for themselves or find posts for them to read.

What does your LLMD have to say on the subject?

I hope your love interest takes this all in a good way and that the out come is a positive yet productive one for both of you.

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It's a sad thing Liz, but I think that it comes down to that old saying, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Put yourself in his shoes...someone that is healthy and clean from TBD's. If you had never contracted Lyme and Co's, but you were somehow fully aware of the potential risks of even kissing someone passionately, let alone having sex with them, would you risk the exposure for yourself? Can you really take the risk of infecting someone with this awfull disease?

There is no doubt in my mind that it can be transmitted through kissing. I read somewhere that Babs was found in human saliva. I think that I would have to be completely Sx free for a few years and off of all abx before I would risk being with someone. Even then I would make them aware of the risks. You are still taking abx to keep Sx's away from what I recall? The only safe thing would be to find someone that was on the road to recovery like yourself.

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Foggy
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I would spill the beans. I would be be very angry if someone knowingly hid something of this magnitude from me. I might even have them seak with my LLMD. If you can't talk "serious" about a serious subject, that's not cool.

The plotting stage? Sounds malevolent, or like a bank heist or battle plan.

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I do not even think sex is safe in-between 2 LD patients without protection if they do not have the same strain and if one starts to get better and the other one keeps giving it back to them.

I did not know babs could be spread through kissing....

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I dont think anyone, other than God of course, KNOWS if any of these can actually be transmitted through kissing, OR sex.

It is NOT the common cold you know. After over six years of sex with my departed wife, she claims not to have it, nor any such symptoms.

Someone NEEDS to do some REAL studies on all this, instead of all this "speculation" that keeps going on like gossip.

Heck, I remember last year, when talking to an owner of a motel we were staying at, that she backed away about 3 more feet from me when I told her I had Lyme. AND she backed another couple of feet away when I told her I had an illeostomy. I had all I could do to keep from splitting a guy laughing. My wife and I HAD a good laugh about it later when I told her about it.

Instead of fueling this nonsense talk, why not use your energy to get SOMEONE to FUND a real study to find out for SURE?!?!?!?!

But, YES, by all means tell him you have it. There should be NO secrets between a married couple in MY estimation, IF it can affect the other one, at all. Unfortunately my wife didn't feel that way.

Jim [Cool]

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Wear protection and if Lyme is sexually transmitted then the entire US would have it anyways, with all the sex that's gone on between people and the lack of treatment over the last 100+years or so.

I would say 100+ years of a STD that isn't treated nor tested is plenty enough time to give it to everyone.

Would you refrain from sex after getting a scratch from a cat(bartonella--cat scratch fever). "Um, yeah... can't have sex for a year because I got scratched from a cat last week, and well, the test aren't reliable, and well, you know how that goes.

Good thing my parents and grand-parents didn't have this mentally. I don't think we would be here now. ---> 'Every sickness someone has is bacterial or viral including autoimmune illnesses, and test are unreliable, and many people have no symptoms which would still make them contagious, and you should never have sex ever again if you've ever got bitten by a tick because you still may have no symptoms and your test can still possibly be negative even though you have it... yeah, goodbye to humans.

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Hi there!

I would just use protection, like you would for any other potential disease. As for kissing, I wouldn't worry about it. If it was spread easily that way the whole world would be infected by now.

Just be happy! [Smile]

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pattilynn
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I would be far more worried about catching one of the other well-known STD's out there. I would use protection for that reason. I've been married for 18 years. Had the bullseye rash in 1992. My husband has no symptoms and is perfectly healthy.

Patti

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