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I still need help in understanding the western blot test done for lyme. Based on the following lab results:

IGG by Western Blot
P41 Present
All other bands say absent
Lyme IgG WB Interp. NEG

IgM by Western Blot
P41 Present
P39 Present
P23 Absent
Lyme IgM WB Interp. POS

Then, at the bottom of the page is says:

Lyme IgM/IgM AB <0.91
Index 0.00 - 0.90
Negative <0.91
Equivocal 0.91- 1.09
Positive >1.09

This test was done by Lab Corp.

Also, could testing positive for Epstein Barr Virus last summer have any affect on the Western Blot test results. Could the antibodies from Epstein Barr influence the antibodies for Lyme??

Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase help, I am so confused?

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My GOODNESS.

LabCorp found lyme in a person! Get outta here!

You are quite lucky!

Your IgM test is positive. Band 41 can cross-react with other pathogens but Band 39 being positive is pretty good confirmation.

Not only that, but LabCorp doesn't even bother testing for two of the most specific bands of all -- I believe bands 31 and 34. Those might be positive as well but you'd never know with them. They and other labs pretend they have to omit those bands just in case you had the lyme vaccine.

No matter. You have a positive test.

The bottom portion looks like an ELISA test, which is negative. You're under their cut-off.

If your doctor tries to tell you that you don't have lyme because the ELISA is negative and therefore the western blot must be a "false positive," please run away fast.

I would suggest you find an LLMD! Post in the "Seeking a Doctor" section. Mainstream docs tend to either deny lyme completely or to undertreat it. You also need to be tested for co-infections at a GOOD lab, not Lab Corp.

Good luck!

Michelle

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Explanation of the Lyme Disease Western Blot
by Carl Brenner


Inquiries about various issues relating to Western blot (WB) testing are frequently posted to the Lyme disease discussion groups on the Internet. Among the most commonly asked questions are: What laboratory techniques are used to carry out the assay? What exactly is being measured? What is a "band"? How are the
results interpreted? What are the CDC criteria for a "positive" test? Although some of then medical jargon associated with immunology can be a little overwhelming, the scientific
principles behind these tests are not difficult to grasp. The following article is offered as a primer in the techniques and interpretation of Western blotting, and should help most patients navigate their way through some of the medical and scientific terminology associated with the assay.


First of all, it should be noted that the Western blot is usually performed as a follow-up to an ELISA test, which is the most commonly employed initial test for Lyme disease. "ELISA" is an acronym for "enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay." There are ELISA tests and Western blots for many infectious agents; for example, the usual testing regime for HIV is also an initial
ELISA followed by a confirmatory Western blot.


Both the ELISA and the Western blot are "indirect" tests -- that is, they measure the immune system's response to an infectious
agent rather than looking for components of the agent itself. In a Lyme disease ELISA, antigens (proteins that evoke an immune response in humans) from Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb) are fixed to a solid-phase medium and incubated with diluted preparations of the patient's serum. If antibodies to the organism are present in the patient's blood, they will bind to the antigen. These bound antibodies can then be detected when a second solution, which contains antibodies to human antibodies, is added to the preparation. Linked to these second antibodies is an enzyme
which changes color when a certain chemical is added to the mix.


Although the methodology is somewhat complicated, the basic principle is simple: the test looks for antibodies in the patient's serum that react to the antigens present in Borrelia
burgdorferi. If such antibodies exist in the patient's blood, that is an indication that the patient has been previously exposed to B. burgdorferi.


However, many different species of bacteria can share common proteins. Most Lyme disease ELISA's use sonicated whole Borrelia burgdorferi -- that is, they take a bunch of B. burgdorferi
cells and break them down with high frequency sound waves, then use the resulting smear as the antigen in the test. It is possible that a given patient's serum can react with the B.
burgdorferi preparation even if the patient hasn't been exposed to Bb, perhaps because Bb shares proteins with another infectious agent that the patient's immune system *has*
encountered. For example, some patients with periodontal disease, which is sometimes associated with an oral spirochete,
might test positive on a Lyme ELISA, because their sera will react to components of Bb (like the flagellar protein, which is shared by many spirochetes) even though they themselves have
never been infected with Bb. Therefore, some positive Lyme disease ELISA results can be "false" positives.


To distinguish the false positives from the true positives, a more specific laboratory technique, known as immunoblotting, is used. (The Western blot, which identifies specific antibody
proteins, is but one kind of immunoblot; there is also a Northern blot, which separates and identifies RNA fragments, and a Southern blot, which does the same for DNA sequences.) In a
Western blot, the testing laboratory looks for antibodies directed against a wide range of Bb proteins. This is done by first disrupting Bb cells with an electrical current and then
"blotting" the separated proteins onto a paper or nylon sheet. The current causes the proteins to separate according to their particle weights, measured in kilodaltons (kDa). From here on, the procedure is similar to the ELISA -- the various Bb antigens are exposed to the patient's serum, and reactivity is measured the same way (by linking an enzyme to a second antibody that reacts to the human antibodies). If the patient has antibody to a specific Bb protein, a "band" will form at a specific place on the immunoblot. For example, if a patient has antibody directed against outer surface protein A (OspA) of Bb,
there will be a WB band at 31 kDa. By looking at the band pattern of patient's WB results, the lab can determine if the patient's immune response is specific for Bb.


Here's where all the problems come in. Until recently, there has never been an agreed-upon standard for what constitutes a positive WB. Different laboratories have used different antigen preparations (say, different strains of Bb) to run the test and have also interpreted results differently. Some required a certain number of bands to constitute a positive result, others might require more or fewer. Some felt that certain bands should be given more priority than others. In late 1994, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) convened a meeting in Dearborn, Michigan [1] in an attempt to get everybody on the same page, so that there would be some consistency from lab to lab in the methodology and reporting of Western blot results.


Before we get to the recommendations that resulted from this meeting, we need to understand one more facet of the human immune response. Many patients have noticed that their Western blot report usually contains two parts: IgM and IgG. These are immunoglobulins (antibody proteins) produced by the immune
system to fight infection. IgM is produced fairly early in the course of an infection, while IgG response comes later. Some
patients might already have an IgM response at the time of the EM rash; IgG response, according to the traditional model, tends to start several weeks after infection and peak months or even years later. In some patients, the IgM response can remain elevated; in others it might decline, regardless of whether or not treatment is successful. Similarly, IgG response can remain
strong or decline with time, again regardless of treatment. Most WB results report separate IgM and IgG band patterns and the criteria for a positive result are different for the two
immunoglobulins.


Finally, in setting up a nationwide standard for a positive WB, one makes several assumptions -- that all strains of Bb will provoke similar immune responses in all patients, that all
patients will mount a measurable immune response when exposed to Bb, and that the IgG immune response will persist in an infected patient. Unfortunately, none of these is always true. Therefore, a judicious interpretation of Western blot results in a clinical setting should take into account both the vagaries of the human
immune response and the possibility that strain variations in Bb might produce unusual banding patterns.


The CDC criteria for a positive WB are as follows:


* For IgM, 2 of the following three bands: OspC (22-25), 39 and 41.
* For IgG, 5 of the following ten bands: 18, OspC (22-25), 28, 30, 39, 41, 45, 58, 66 and 93.


How were these recommendations arrived at? The IgG criteria were taken pretty much unchanged from a 1993 paper by Dressler, Whalen, Reinhardt and Steere [2]. In this study, the authors
performed immunoblots on several dozen patients with well characterized Lyme disease and a strong antibody response and looked at the resulting blot patterns. By doing some fairly
involved statistical analysis, they could determine which bands showed up most often and which best distinguished LD patients from control subjects who did not have LD. They found that by requiring 5 of the 10 bands listed, they could make the results the most specific, in their view, without sacrificing too much
sensitivity. ("Sensitivity" means the ability of the test to detect patients who have the disease, "specificity" means the ability of the test to exclude those who don't. Usually, an
increase in one of these measures means a decrease in the other.)


The IgM criteria were determined in much the same fashion (by different authors in different papers). Fewer bands are required here because the immune response is less mature at this point.

Several studies have shown that the first band to show up on a Lyme disease patient's IgM blot is usually the one at 41 kDa, followed by the OspC band and/or the one at 39. The OspC and 39
kDa band are highly specific for Bb, while the 41 kDa band isn't. That's why the 41 by itself isn't considered adequate.

Here's the rub, though: the CDC doesn't want the IgM criteria being used for any patient that has been sick for more than about six weeks. The thinking here is that by this time an IgG
response should have kicked in and the IgM criteria, because they require fewer bands, are not appropriate for patients with later disease.


A number of criticisms have been offered of the CDC criteria since their adoption in 1994. The first is centered on the CDC's failure to make any qualitative distinction among the various
bands that can show up on a patient's Western blot. A number of Lyme disease researchers feel that different bands on a WB have different relative importance -- that "all bands are not created equal." For example, many patients with Lyme disease will show reactive bands at, say, 60 and/or 66 kDa. However, these correspond to common proteins in many bacteria, not just
Borrelia burgdorferi, and so are of limited diagnostic usefulness, especially in the absence of other, more species- specific bands. The band at 41 kDa corresponds to Bb's flagella (the whip like organelles used for locomotion -- Bb has several) and is one of the earliest to show up on the Western blots of Lyme disease patients. But for some reason it is also the most
commonly appearing band in control subjects. This may be due to the fact that many people are exposed to spirochetes at some time in their lives and so their sera might cross react with
this protein.


On the other hand, certain other bands are considered highly specific for Bb -- the aforementioned 31 kDa band, for example,
or 34 (OspB) or 39 or OspC (anywhere between 22 and 25). The 83 and 94 kDa bands are also thought to be species-specific. Many
Lyme disease scientists believe that any patient whose IgG Western blot exhibits bands at, say, any three (or even two) of these locations almost certainly has Lyme disease, regardless of
whether or not any other bands are present. They feel that these bands on a Lyme Western blot are simply more meaningful than other, less specific ones and that a rational interpretation of
a WB result should take this into account. Unfortunately, this does not often happen, and will happen even less with the new
CDC criteria.


A second criticism of the CDC Western blot criteria is that they
fail to include the 31 and 34 kDa bands. This does indeed seem
like an odd decision, since antibodies with these molecular
weights correspond to the OspA and OspB proteins of B.
burgdorferi, which are considered to be among the most species-
specific proteins of the organism. So why didn't Dressler et al.
include them? Answer: These bands tend to appear late if at all
in Lyme disease patients, and did not show up with great
frequency in the patients that the Dressler et al. group studied
(though they did show up sometimes). As a result, they weren't
deemed to have much diagnostic value and didn't find their way
onto the CDC hot list. However, while the absence of either of
these bands from a patient's immunoblot result does not rule out
Lyme disease, their presence is hardly meaningless. Thus, many
Lyme disease experts believe it is a serious mistake to exclude
these two antibody proteins from the list of significant bands.
The CDC's decision to do so seems particularly strange in light
of the fact that it is the OspA component of Bb that is being
used as the stimulating antigen in the ongoing experimental Lyme
disease vaccine trials. As one immunologist remarked shortly
after the 1994 CDC conference, "If OspA is so unimportant, then
why the heck are we vaccinating people with it?"


Finally, it is important to keep in mind that no matter how carefully the Western blot test is carried out and interpreted, its usefulness, like that of all tests that measure B.
burgdorferi antibodies, is ultimately contingent on the reliability of the human immune response as an indicator of exposure to B. burgdorferi. There are several scenarios in which the lack of a detectable antibody response may falsely suggest a lack of B. burgdorferi infection.

First, it is well established that early subcurative treatment of Lyme disease can abrogate the human immune response to B. burgdorferi [3]. Although this is not thought to be a common phenomenon, a recent comparative
trial for the treatment of erythema migrans found that a majority of patients who failed early treatment and suffered clinical relapse were seronegative at the time of relapse [4].
Even treatment for disseminated Lyme disease, in which the patient's IgG immune response was previously well-established, can render a patient seronegative after treatment despite post- treatment culture-positivity for B. burgdorferi [5,6].


In addition, patients with Lyme disease may not test positive
for exposure to B. burgdorferi because their antibodies to the
organism are bound up in immune complexes [7]. Once steps are
taken to dissociate these immune complexes, free antibody can be
detected; however, this is not routinely done when performing
serologic tests for Lyme disease. Finally, an indeterminate
number of patients with late Lyme disease are simply
seronegative for unknown reasons [8]. The actual percentage of
such cases as a proportion of all Lyme disease cases is
impossible to estimate, since most studies of late Lyme disease
enroll only seropositive patients, which tends to reinforce the
circular and erroneous notion that virtually all patients with
late Lyme disease are seropositive.


It should also be noted that a positive Western blot is not
necessarily an indication of active Lyme disease. A patient's
immune response to B. burgdorferi can remain intact long after
curative treatment for a Lyme infection; therefore, the results
of a Western blot assay should always be interpreted in the
context of the total clinical picture.


REFERENCES


[1] Proceedings of the Second National Conference on Serologic
Diagnosis of Lyme Disease, October 27-29, 1994.


[2] Dressler F, Whalen JA, Reinhardt BN, Steere AC. Western
blotting in the serodiagnosis of Lyme disease. J Infect Dis
1993;167:392-400.


[3] Dattwyler RJ, Volkman DJ, Luft BJ et al. Seronegative Lyme
disease: dissociation of specific T- and B-lymphocyte responses
to Borrelia burgdorferi . N Engl J Med 1988;319:1441-6.


[4] Luft BJ, Dattwyler RJ, Johnson RC et al. Azithromycin
compared with amoxicillin in the treatment of erythema migrans.
Ann Intern Med 1996;124:785-91.


[5] H upl T, Hahn G, Rittig M, et al. Persistence of Borrelia
burgdorferi in ligamentous tissue from a patient with chronic
Lyme borreliosis. Arth Rheum 1993;36:1621-6.


[6] Preac-Mursic V, Marget W, Busch U, Pleterski Rigler D, Hagl
S. Kill kinetics of Borrelia burgdorferi and bacterial findings
in relation to the treatment of Lyme borreliosis. Infection
1996;24:9-18.


[7] Schutzer SE, Coyle PK, Belman AL, et al. Sequestration of
antibody to Borrelia burgdorferi in immune complexes in
seronegative Lyme disease. Lancet 1990;335:312-5.


[8] Liegner KB. Lyme disease and the clinical spectrum of
antibiotic responsive chronic meningoencephalomyelitides.
(Abstract, 1996 LDF Conference, Boston. MA)


http://lymealliance.org/Medical/MedCategory4/Med12/med12.html
Laboratory Tests
An Excerpt from the Lyme Disease Survival Manual
by Tom Grier


Three Main Categories of Lyme Disease Tests:


Indirect Tests (serum antibody tests):
ELISA; Western Blot; IFA; Borreliacidal Antibody Assay
(Gunderson test);
T-cell Activation Test
Direct detection tests:
PCR (DNA amplification); Lyme Urine Antigen Test (LUAT); Antigen
Capture Test; culturing of skin, blood, CSF, urine, or tissue;
immune complex / antigen-antibody test
Tissue Biopsy and Staining:
Silver Stain; Gold Stain; Fluorescent Tagged Monoclonal Antibody
Stains; Acrodine Orange; Gram Stain; Muramidase; etc.
There is a great deal of confusion and controversy surrounding
Lyme disease testing. The first problem is that most of the
manufacturers of these tests want you to believe that their
tests are the best. At every medical convention, I listen to
sales pitch after sales pitch from sales people making their
product sound infallible. Often the terminology is confusing and
the customer frequently misinterprets what is really being said.


For example, a salesman may say the rate of false positive or
false negative is less than one percent. This sounds like the
test is more than 99% accurate. In reality, what it is saying is
if you have 1000 test samples from the same known laboratory
sample, then in less than ten samples will there be a result
that differs significantly from the other 990.


In any of this, did you hear the words: "percent reliability"
or "percent accuracy" in diagnosing Lyme disease in humans? No!
People often mistake "false positive rate" for accuracy. The
truth is that no Lyme disease test to date is close to 100%
accurate, because each test has its own particular set of
shortcomings. So, while the first problem with Lyme disease
tests is in the way they are promoted, the second problem is the
way the tests are primed to recognize laboratory strains of Bb,
rather than wild types. Third, the Lyme spirochete can hide in
the human body, and fool the immune system into thinking it
isn't there. So, no antibodies are produced, resulting in
negative tests. Stealth technology isn't new, it evolved
millions of years ago by the first bacteria that evaded its
host's defenses.


Immune Responses


The first antibody our body makes in response to a foreign
invader is usually immunoglobulin type M, abbreviated as IgM.
This large antibody takes two to four weeks to be made in
quantities large enough to be consistently measured. It is at
its peak of production four weeks after exposure to an antigen.
The IgM antibody will only stay in circulation for about six
months, and then levels are usually too low to detect. If
infection persists, this antibody may also persist. In general,
a Lyme patient who consistently has detectable IgM levels is
usually chronically ill, but its absence is not a reliable
indicator of cure.


The second antibody we make after the IgM is the IgG antibody.
This antibody takes four to eight weeks to form, and is gone in
less than twelve months. It peaks at about six weeks. This
antibody crosses the placenta, so an infected mother can pass
this antibody to her child. An IgG antibody titer in a newborn
does not have to mean active infection. It does mean the mother
has had exposure, and the child must be carefully monitored for
signs of the disease.


Because of the difference in the two antibodies, two separate
tests are available to test for their presence. Therefore, a
physician must specify whether or not a patient should have an
IgM or IgG Western Blot, or an IgM or IgG ELISA test.


IgM:


This is the earliest of the antibodies to appear in response to
an infection. It is produced in quantity. It is six times larger
than the IgG antibody. Because of its size, this immunoglobulin
does not cross the placenta. Since it cannot enter the fetus
from the mother, any newborn that starts to make IgM antibodies
against Lyme disease must be infected. However, a fetus exposed
to Borrelia burgdorferi early in the pregnancy may never make an
antibody response to the Lyme bacteria because the baby's immune
system doesn't recognize it as foreign.


IgG:


This antibody remains the longest and is the foot soldier of the
immune system. It attacks viruses, bacteria, yeast, toxins, and
transplants. The IgG antibody can kill bacteria indirectly by
tagging or marking the foreign invaders for destruction by the
killer cells (T-cells, macrophage). Or, it can kill the bacteria
directly by evoking compliment, a series of enzymes and proteins
that will dissolve the intruder.


Note: It was once thought that plasma cells could produce
antibodies that could conform to any shape necessary to attack
foreign intruders. If this were true, we would have almost
unlimited immunity. It is now thought that each person has a
finite collection of specialized lymphocytes that are able to
create a finite number of antibodies. Each antibody shape is
predetermined, and can be produced by only one type of
lymphocyte. When the body is invaded by a foreign antigen, it
will stimulate one of these cells, and only that cell will begin
to clone itself. This process takes several weeks. If we lack
the right cell type to do the job, we are left with a gap in our
immunity. This might account for why some Lyme patients with
certain tissue types have greater morbidity, while others have
relatively mild symptoms.


Dr. Alan Steere, M.D., observed that Lyme arthritis patients
with tissue type HLA-DR2 and HLA-DR4 had more severe arthritis
and chronic disease. Other tissue types have been associated
with an increased incidence of multiple sclerosis and other
neurological diseases. It might be that different patient tissue
types might account for a difference in patient's symptoms to a
greater degree than different strains of the bacteria.


It is known that this bacteria has an affinity for specific
tissues. If you have a specific lack of immunity, this may cause
the disease to manifest differently in those tissues. For
example, let's say hypothetically that your heart is infected
with Borrelia burgdorferi bacteria. Perhaps most people make an
antibody that suppresses attachment of Bb to certain fibers in
the heart. If you lack that antibody, the infection may continue
more aggressively and manifest differently - for instance,
causing an enlargement of the muscle fibers or destruction of
the conduction pathways.


Instead of lacking a specific antibody, perhaps some individuals
make a different kind of antibody, an antibody that not only
attacks the bacteria - but may attack the heart as well! It is
well known and documented that some patients produce auto-
antibodies, which are antibodies that our own body produces that
attack our own tissues. This is the basis of autoimmune disease.
In some Lyme disease patients, an auto-antibody against
cardiolipin has been clearly established in Lyme patients with
Lyme carditis.


Perhaps, in addition to other Lyme tests, we should also be
tissue typing patients and searching for auto-antibodies? Tissue
typing requires a small blood sample, and costs about $200.


http://lymealliance.org/Medical/MedCategory4/Med12A/med12a.html
Laboratory Tests
Part 2: An Excerpt from the Lyme Disease Survival Manual
by Tom Grier


Western Blot


The Western Blot essentially makes a map of the different
antibodies the immune system produces to the bacteria. The map
separates the antibodies by the weight of their respective
antigens and are reported in units called kilo daltons or kDa.
For example, a Western Blot may report bands at 22, 23, 25, 31,
34, 39, and 41 kDa. Each of these bands represents an antibody
response to a specific protein found on the spirochete. The 41
band indicates an antibody to the flagella 41 kDa protein and is
nonspecific. The 31 kDa band represents the OSPA protein and is
specific for just a few species of Borrelia, as is the 34 band
OSPB, and 23 kDa OSPC.


In 1994, the Association of State and Territorial Public Health
Laboratory Directors, under a CDC grant, decided that there
should be consistency between labs reporting Lyme disease
Western Blots, and that a specific reporting criteria should be
established. The consensus committe, chaired by Dr. Michael
Osterholm, Ph.D., MN, set nationwide standards for Western Blot
reporting. This sounds good, but one could argue they made a bad
situation worse. Prior to the hearing, virtually every lab had
accepted bands 22, 23, 25, 31, and 34 kDa as specific and
significant, and reported them as positive for exposure to
Borrelia burgdorferi. Not only are these bands specific for
Borrelia species, but they represent all of the major outer
surface proteins being used to develop the Lyme vaccines. The
committee, without any clear reasoning, disqualified those bands
as even being reportable.


After the consensus meeting, those bands were no longer
acceptable. The result was that what had been a fair-to-good
test for detecting Lyme disease had now become poor, arguably
useless. Many scientists have questioned these new reporting
criteria, and several wrote letters of protest to both the
committee and to laboratory journals. Many labs stopped
reporting the actual bands and instead, simply reported the test
as positive or negative, thus preventing any further
interpretations. (90)


How badly did the Lab Directors bootstrap this test? The
following is an analysis of the new guidelines presented as an
abstract and lecture at the 1995 Rheumatology Conference in
Texas, chaired by Dr. Alan Steere, MD. (1995 Rheumatology
Symposia Abstract #1254, Dr. Paul Fawcett, et al.)


This was a study designed to test the recently proposed changes
to Western Blot interpretation by the Second National Conference
on Serological Testing for Lyme Disease, sponsored by the CDC.
The committee proposed limiting the bands that could be reported
in a Western Blot for diagnosis of Lyme disease. Out of a
possible 25 bands, 10 specific bands were selected as being
reportable. An lgG Western Blot must have five or more of these
bands: 18, 21,28, 30, 39, 41,,45, 58, 66 and 93 kDa. An lgM
Western Blot must have two or more of the following three bands:
23, 39, 41.


Conspicuously absent are the most important bands, 22, 23, 25,
31, and 34, which include OSPA, OSP-B and OSP-C antigens - the
three most widely accepted and recognized Bb antigens. These
antigens were the antigens chosen for human vaccine trials. This
abstract showed that, under the old criteria, all of 66
pediatric patients with a history of a tick bite and bull's-eye
rash who were symptomatic were accepted as positive under the
old Western Blot interpretation.


Under the newly proposed criteria, only 20 were now considered
positive. (The number of false positives under both criteria was
zero percent.) That means 46 children who were all symptomatic
would probably be denied treatment! That's a success rate of
only 31%.


* Note: A misconception about Western Blots is that they have
as many false positives as false negatives. This is not true.
False positives based on species specific bands are rare.


The conclusion of the researchers was: "the proposed Western
Blot reporting criteria are grossly inadequate, because it
excluded 69% of the infected children."


Elisa Test


The Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbant Serum Assay, is the simplest,
least expensive, easiest to perform, and most common Lyme test
ordered. It is a test based on detecting the antibodies that our
bodies make in response to being exposed to Borrelia
burgdorferi (Bb). It is a preferred test by laboratories, not
because it is more accurate than other Lyme tests, but because
it is automated. Many different patient samples can be performed
by a single machine simultaneously. This allows for a faster
turnover, less costs, and theoretically, standardized test
results that are consistent from lab to lab.


We are told by manufacturers, health departments and clinics
that the Lyme ELISA tests are good, useful tests, but in two
blinded studies that tested laboratories for accuracy, they
failed miserably. Lorie Bakken, MS/MPH, showed in her studies
that there was not only inaccuracy and inconsistency between
competing laboratories, but also between identical triple
samples sent to the same lab. In other words, identical samples
often resulted in different results! In the first study, forty-
five labs correctly identified the samples only 55% of the time.


In the latest study by the College of American Pathologists, 516
labs were tested. The overall result was terrible! There were
almost equal numbers of false positives as false negatives.
Overall, the labs were 55% inaccurate. The labs could only give
a correct result 45% of the time. You are actually better off to
flip a coin!


The basis of the ELISA test is that it can be primed to be very
specific for particular antibodies. This is done by taking a
laboratory sample of the Lyme bacteria and breaking the sample
down into fragments. These fragments, or antigens, are then
embedded on the side of a reagent vessel like a test tube. Then
the patient's serum is added, and any free (non-complexed)
antibodies specific for the test strain will then bind to the
antigens, which are linked to special enzymes that will change
color when antibodies are present. The sample is continually
diluted until the reaction no longer occurs and no color change
can be detected. The sample is then reported as a dilution
ratio, such as one part serum to 256 parts water, or 1:256.


The ELISA test sounds simple and straight forward, but it has a
couple of major flaws. Borrelia species are some of the most
polymorphic bacteria known to exist. In other words, most
Borrelia species can significantly change its surface proteins
enough during cell division as to evade our immune system, and
may differ from laboratory strains enough to result in negative
tests, even if antiBb antibodies are present! In Europe, this
problem is intensified because they have recognized three
species of Borrelia that cause Lyme disease, and so they have
available three separate ELISA tests. The questions in America
are: 1) Have we recognized all the strains and species of
Borrelia that cause Lyme disease symptoms, and 2) are we
incorporating them into our tests? The answer is no. Convenience
and expedience has chosen that we don't prime our ELISA tests
withwild strains, but use a laboratory strain.


W hen a lab reports that their ELISA test has had high
specificity and high sensitivity, it is usually interpreted by
doctors as being a more accurate test, but the doctors don't
know what the lab is actually measuring. One of the hidden
problems of serologic Lyme tests is the fact that the tests must
be primed with a source of bacteria to create the reactions with
the patient's antibodies. To do this, virtually all labs rely on
a laboratory strain of Bb known as strain B-31.Taking purified
antigens from strain B-31 and injecting them into mice, they
then can extract a monoclonal antibody to each antigen, or a
polyvalent antibody soup. This antibody is concentrated and
purified, and then added to the ELISA test to test the efficacy
and performance of the test. Unlike the wild strains, B-31 grows
well in culture, and this makes it a perfect choice as a
consistent and inexpensive source of Bb. But the affinity the
mouse monoclonal antibody has to B-31 antigen is quite different
from the affinity the patients' antibodies have to the same
antigen. This means the test may register as negative because
the test cannot detect the slightly different antibody profile
that a wild strain of Bb can produce. In other words, the labs
are really comparing apples to oranges! This is why, when the
American College of Pathologists used human sera to test the
accuracy of 516 different laboratories ELISA tests nation wide,
the overall accuracy was only 45%.


In the quest for specificity, most ELISA tests have become so
specific that the test may fail to detect antibodies from
related strains of Borrelia. This would include different
genospecies that cause Lyme disease, as well as different
Borrelia species that cause Tickborne Relapsing Fever. Would a
cross reaction to the Borrelia species that cause Tick-borne
Relapsing Fever be so bad?


The real Achilles' Heal of an ELISA Test is that it can only
detect free antibody. It cannot detect any antibody that has
become complexed with antigen.


The ELISA test depends on the active, free antibodies to attach
to the free antigens that have been embedded on the walls of the
test tube. If the antibodies in the serum being tested are
already attached to antigens, then the enzyme reaction cannot
take place. If we think of antibodies as sort of keys that fit
into locks, and that on the surface of the bacteria are specific
locks we now call antigens, you can see that once a key is
inserted into a lock, the key is no longer available to open any
other locks.


What makes this test so misleading is that many doctors accept
high readings as an indication that the patient must really be
sick. This logic is exactly backwards. If a patient is really
infected with lots of bacteria, that means they have a lot of
bacterial antigens floating around in the blood that are
complexing free antibodies. So, as free antigen increases, free
antibody decreases. Since the ELISA test detects only free
antibody, a negative test might actually indicate a more serious
infection. Many times, I have seen totally asymptotic patients
with ELISA titers over 1000 be treated as though they were on
death's doorstep simply because they had a high titer, while
patients with borderline titers who are practically disabled are
ignored, because a low titer is perceived as meaning less
infected! These conclusions are erroneous and actually opposite
to the truth, which is that a high titer means greater natural
immunity.


This phenomena can actually be observed by using vaccines. If a
patient has been vaccinated for a disease like tetanus, they
will carry a high titer of free antibodies. If you try to
measure those antibodies an hour after a booster shot is
given, they will test negative. This is because the injected
tetanus antigen complexes all available free antibody before
the body can make more, so the measurable free antibody level
drops.


The nature of all antibody is to seek out the proper antigen.
The level of free antibody available is variable and often
inadequate for the amount of antigen available. As antigen
increases (i.e. The bacteria are dividing faster than the
immune system can handle), free antibody drops.


What a high ELISA test may be a better indicator of is what
level of immunity is the patient capable of mounting against
this infection? A high titer is the same thing as saying the
patient has a high natural immunity, and a low can mean that the
patient may be overwhelmed by infection.


In one year-long study by Dr. Sam Donta, MD, done on chronic
Lyme patients, the initial ELISA tests proved to be more than
66+% inaccurate (1996 LDF Conference lecture). Other researchers
have also found the ELISA tests to be inaccurate. Using a 45-
panel diagnostic testing protocol from the NIH for testing the
efficacy of the ELISA and Western Blot, researchers found the
accuracy of the Lyme ELISA varied from about 5075%, and were
routinely inconsistent. The CDC's ELISA test did no better on
average than any other ELISA. It is the CDC ELISA test which is
used for surveillance of emerging Lyme disease in the United
States, yet the test was correct only about two out every three
tests. Too often, a single negative ELISA test can prevent a
sick patient from getting treatment, even despite having serious
symptoms!


In my opinion, the ELISA test is worthless as a diagnostic tool
in Lyme disease. It is inconsistent and inaccurate, and should
be discontinued as a tool to diagnose Lyme. If the NIH and CDC
truly believe, as they've stated, that the diagnosis of Lyme
disease is to be made on the basis of symptoms, then these tests
should be temporarily banned until each manufacturer can prove
efficacy using human serum.

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IGG by Western Blot
P41 Present
All other bands say absent Lyme IgG WB Interpreted. NEGATIVE
The Igg is negative.

IgM by Western Blot
P41 Present
P39 Present
Lyme IgM WB Interpreted. POSSITIVE
IgM is positive for two bands 41 = Flagella or tail. This is how Borrelia burgdorferi moves around, by moving the flagella. Many bacteria
have flagella. This is the most common borreliosis antibody.

and 39 is a major protein of Bb flagellin; specific for Bb p39 is a protein highly specific of the Borrelia genus.

You have two bands one is igg its 41 the others are Igm 41,39.
Read this:
WESTERN BLOT IN LYME
And
Molecular characterization of the humoral response to the 41-kilodalton flagellar antigen of Borrelia burgdorferi, the Lyme disease agent
And
It has been reported that the IFA and ELISA IgM assays may show cross-reactivity with ANA, EBV, and spirochetal infections (24). However, studies by Mitchell et al (20) and Ma et al (35) did not observe this with their IFA and Western blot assays respectively
And
Three Main Categories of Lyme Disease Tests

And most of all it should be diagnosed clinically! relating to, based on, or characterized by observable and diagnosable symptoms of disease

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93 kDa p100: chromosomal protein highly specific of the Borrelia genus; the antibody response is mostly IgG and appears in the course of chronic infections; bands at 93 kDa are strongly associated with advanced stages.
73 kDa Specific marker, probably corresponding to the bacterial DNA.
62-72 kDa Heat shock proteins; these bands are not specifically associated with a Borrelia infection and are found in several bacterial infections. No diagnostic value.
66 kDa Species-dependant but specific marker for Borrelia infections.
60 kDa Common bacterial antigen; non-specific. No diagnostic value.
58 kDa Species-dependant but specific marker for Borrelia infections.
46 kDa Species-dependant but specific marker for Borrelia infections.
41 kDa Flagellin: this protein is not specific to the Borrelia genus but is useful in the test interpretation; cross-reaction with other spirochetes are common; a flagellin positive reaction may occur at early as well at late stages.
39 kDa p39 is a protein highly specific of the Borrelia genus.
37 kDa This protein is considered to be an early marker but its specificity has not been established.
32.5 kDa OspA: surface protein highly specific of Borrelia garinii.
28 kDa OspD: surface protein.
22-23 kDa OspC: surface protein highly specific of Borrelia garinii and a marker for early infections.
18 kDa p18: the specificity of this protein has been recently established; excellent marker for late infections.
From NovaTech

IgG WESTERN BLOT

The IgG Western Blot is a sandwich-type immunoassay performed in a manner that allows visualization of the patient's antibodies. It is a qualitative test and is generally more sensitive and specific than the ELISA. This test must be used if the Lyme IgG/IgM antibody serology is equivocal or positive. The somewhat-specific Lyme antibodies of importance are against the following molecular weights of the B. burgdorferi antigens: 23-25 kDa (Osp C); 31 kDa (Osp A); 34 kDa (Osp B); 39 kDa; 41 kDa; and 83-93 kDa7. "kDa" is the abbreviation for "kilodalton," which is used for molecular weight designations. "Osp" refers to outer surface protein of the bacteria.

There are currently multiple criteria that support a positive blot. "Positive" means that certain antibodies to B. burgdorferi are present. The CDC/ASTPHLD criteria are very conservative, require 5 of 10 bands (antibodies) for a positive result, and do not recognize equivocal or borderline results.8,9 These criteria would be more appropriate for a formal clinical study during early Lyme disease.

IGeneX has several years of clinical data that support more liberal reporting criteria.10 In addition, current studies show that the CDC/ASTPHLD criteria miss some patients with culture-proven erythema migrans (EM).5,11 Both the IGeneX and the CDC/ASTPHLD criteria are included on the IGeneX report form sent to the physician. 3,5,8,9

The Western Blot involves a highly complex visual determination of protein bands, based on their molecular weights and intensities. The IGeneX report form provides an interpretation along with the results in detail.

A positive IgG result with clinical history may be indicative of Lyme disease. Patients with other spirochetal disease and/or who test positive for rheumatoid factor or Epstein Barr virus may have cross-reacting antibodies. A positive response in this, as in any antibody assay, indicates sensitization, not necessarily active disease.

IgM WESTERN BLOT

The IgM Western Blot is a very sensitive indicator of exposure to B. burgdorferi. It may be positive as early as one week after a tick bite, and will usually remain positive for six to eight weeks after the initial exposure. Re-exposure and recurrent disease also cause this test to be positive for a period of time. For the testing to be complete, the IgM blot should be run along with the IgG blot. However, for economic reasons, the IgG blot may be run first: when the IgG blot is negative, the IgM blot should be performed.

The antibody specificities of importance for the IgM blot are similar to those for the IgG blot (with the exception of 83-93 kDa, which is still being investigated for significance). The CDC/ASTPHLD criteria for a positive result are two of the following three bands: 23-25 kDa (Osp C); 39 kDa; and/or 41 kDa.8,9 IGeneX adds the 31 kDa (Osp A), and/or the 34 kDa (Osp B) to the criteria,10,12 with the argument that these two antigens are used for the vaccines and therefore their antibodies should be included in the interpretation of positivity. The IgM Western blot is often positive in patients with persistent infection.6 Sometimes it is the only antibody marker detected.

When the IgM ELISA is equivocal or positive, the IgM Western blot must be performed. In addition, because the literature suggests that rheumatoid conditions may lead to false positive IgM antibody responses, an ANA/DNA/rheumatoid factor screen may be ordered to rule out false positive reactions. Patients testing positive with serologic tests for syphilis may also test positive for the Lyme antibody tests.13-15

A positive IgM result with clinical history may be indicative of early Lyme disease or persistent infection in otherwise serologically negative individuals. Recently reported data support our observation that some Lyme patients may have only a restricted IgM response to B. burgdorferi. 16,17

Similar to the IgG Western blot, the IgM Western blot involves a highly complex visual determination of protein bands, based on their molecular weights and intensities. For both tests, IGeneX uses multiple negative controls to serve as baselines for comparison to positive responses.

The IGeneX report form provides an interpretation along with the results in detail.
From:
Lyme Disease Western Blot IgeneX

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Hi again, FedUp.

I reviewed some of your other messages to try and get more info and insight. You have said:

quote:
Does anyone know why a western blot lyme test would show a false positive result even though all the symptoms of lyme are present?????

My daughter's dr. said she tested positive for lyme (she has been very sick for a year now), but it may be a false positive result. Any suggestions would be appreciated

And so forth...

Aha! The old "false positive" duck opinion! I knew it!

You have really got to get your daughter to an LLMD (lyme literate medical doctor).

Ducks (our name for doctors who refuse to educate themselves about lyme) are NEVER going to help your daughter.

You literally have to become a lyme advocate yourself. Read, read read and then read some more.

Learn more than the Duck knows! Fortunately, this is not hard.

He believes her test is "false positive" because he is relying on the tired and useless negative ELISA. Well, guess what? The ELISA misses over half of all proven cases of chronic lyme. Does your duck know this? Unlikely.

Has your Duck even mentioned co-infection testing? Nope. Didn't think so. Do you know what babesia or bartonella can do to a person, untreated? Estimates are that as high as 60% of people with lyme have at least one co-infection.

If you want your daughter to get better -- you have GOT to get away from this doctor and find one who knows what he's doing.

Yes, there is a lot of reading and learning involved. But you must get started.

Not trying to be harsh; however, almost all of your posts ask the same questions. You've been given GREAT, science-backed answers, but you don't seem to get back on the threads to acknowledge them!

Sometimes new posters don't know what happened to their posts when they slip off the front page. Is it possible you've lost your other postings and haven't seen the responses?

Please get your daughter to an LLMD. Her health and future are at stake and it is worth whatever it takes.

Michelle

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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle M:

Aha! The old "false positive" duck opinion! I knew it!

You have really got to get your daughter to an LLMD (lyme literate medical doctor).

Ducks (our name for doctors who refuse to educate themselves about lyme) are NEVER going to help your daughter.

You literally have to become a lyme advocate yourself. Read, read read and then read some more.

Learn more than the Duck knows! Fortunately, this is not hard.

Absolutely!!! Thanks, Michelle for digging deep here.

YES!!!! Get your daughter to a REAL Lyme dr. That is the only way she is going to get well. Those bands did not just drop out of the sky.

They came from HER blood. And it seems that her blood contains spirochetes.

Wild Condor's Links and information:
http://www.wildcondor.com/lymelinks.html

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