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I just saw that myself. I believe herbs are powerful and can help many people. But I don't think they are the "cure-all" in most cases. Maybe some, but not most.
I believe they should be used along side conventional medicine. But that's just me saying that and I'm not a doctor, but a strong proponent of herbal meds.
I would like to hear from someone who has tried this though. And it was "inconclusive" so to say on 20/20.
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Yes, they ended the segment leaving things very open.
I agree with you though. Supplements are great, but can't replace conventional meds.
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I believe all supplements of that nature are worth investigating for a SUPPORT. With most of us on limited funds, we have to make every dollar count.
But, when you are ill, you get inundated with enthusiastic multi-level marketers. It's not a bad thing unto itself, but I believe that with the trend being "wellness", there are thousands of people out there selling their products in ignorance or intent to profit at any cost.
We have to be diligent in doing our homework and investigating the claims. I have DVD's and papers from all kinds of companies with products claiming to cure my daughter.
It really turns me off. There are only a couple that I would give serious consideration. And I won't mention them.
Some mention of glyconutrients have been made on this website. No brand name was given. Mannatech is the most notable.
I believe the 20/20 story was on the claim some distributors are making and how it could literally take someone's life who believed it was the "cure".
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For the record, I know of one case here on LymeNet of someone who got well using the Mannatech products, Ambrotose being the primary product.
The only other things they mentioned using were homeopathic preparations prescribed by a practitioner.
The person who used this method of treatment is now back to work and they don't come here and check the board very often anymore.... I'm sure they would post here if they saw this topic.
I'll drop them a PM in hopes they will post a reply to this thread.
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That was horrible investigational reporting by 20/20. I could tell from the first few minutes they were going to do a smear job and only tell one side of the story.
I am not a seller of ambrotose but my Dr. has a large number of her Marshal Protocol patients taking it along with the MP with good results.
I tried the MP without it and with it and it made a big difference. My WBC shot up into the normal range as far as blood work goes.
My dr. recently attended a meeting in Portland with Dr's talking about success's with Ambrotose. 20/20 had no desire to report any positive stories as they wanted it to be a negative story.
The company would not be so huge if the product did nothing at all.
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Thank you, Tracy, for alerting me to this discussion on the forum. I did not see 2020 last night but had been told about it and did read many of the comments on line afterward.
Virgil used the Mannatech products along with homeopathic preparations and felt they supported his immune system while the Cat's Claw and Viral HP did their job on the Lyme.
That was the choice he made rather than go to "standard of care" which in the case of Lyme is, as we all know, antibiotics. Even that "standard of care" is under great debate and is not without it's own problems.
We have been using Mannatech products (Ambrotose being the flagship product) for 6 years now. We have seen how it has helped our family and friends.
Mannatech does not make any claim that it's products "heal" or "cure" anything. "All" they do is support the body's own ability to fight whatever health challenges it faces.
We were told about the products by a friend and are happy to be able to tell others about them. It is up to each person to do their due diligence. That is what we did and we were satisfied with what we found.
I am an RN and attended a continuing education class on the glyconutrients. This was an accredited class attended by many MD's, RN's as well as alternative medicine practictioners. There is solid science behind these products.
We are proud to be able to help others find out about these products.
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The best resource I can offer you would be the site for Proevity, the Continuing Education Group that sponsors the CEU classes.
It takes a great deal of validation to be able to offer CEU and CME (continuing medical education)credits. This group has documented the science behind clinical glycobiology.
Their home site is www.proevity.org. Here you can see the faculty they utilize and the ciriculum set up to meet the criteria of the various disciplines that regulate the awarding of these credits.
You can also go to a medical library and get a copy of Harper's Biochemistry (any edition after 1995, I believe). There is a whole chapter on Glyconutrients by Dr. Robert K. Murray. This is a medical textbook used in some of the medical schools in this country.
There are also thousands of articles available at www.glycoscience.org. This is a nutrition science site sponsored by Mannatech. It has very valuable information and has many links to outside sites.
Actually, in the scientific world, I don't think there is much question any more about the efficacy of Glyconutrients. I think the main question is the method of delivery.
I hope this helps.
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