LisaS
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Out of all the antibiotics I've been on and supplements and rife, I just have to say, Cat's Claw is helping me the most. I'm not back to normal by far, but am able to get through working full time+ again. Just wanted to note this in case it might help someone else.
hardynaka
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Congratulations!!!
Are you taking whole cats' claw? How much a day?
Cat's claw has been the most constant herb I've been taking since I started treatment a year and half ago... but I certainly can't stay only on that, I need other herbs to support.
Cats claw doesn't get cysts too, according to muscle tests (ART), so I had added bee pollen and other stuff to help on that.
Anyway, congratulations!!!
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LisaS
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Well righ tnow Im on Cats Claw complex. The bottle says MediHerb from Standard Process. I dont knopw much more about, just trusted my LLMD on this.
Im also on Allicidin, co q 10 and magnesium. Zinc too. I used to take like 30 supplements and herbs a day but had to stop due to gastrointestinal probs.
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Any supplement from Standard Process is excellent! I've used them for years and they are really pure. My current LLMD has me on liquid cats claw. It's made by www.allergyresearchgroup.com and they have good stuff too. It's called Prima Una de Gato Liquid and I started out with one drop in water and worked up to 10 drops. I find that I herx from Cats Claw just as much but I'm not sick from all the side affects of the antibiotics.
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D Bergy
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Cumanda works well to rotate with TOA Free Cat's Claw. We used both. Cumanda actually seems slightly better in our experience. It did not entirely get rid of the Lyme so we used Rife afterwards. This got us to a new level of wellness.
Some Lyme symptoms are still present after using all of these but they are minimal. Still have not found the magic bullet to totally irradicate the disease, but I am not done yet.
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hardynaka
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DBERGY, Do you think Cumanda helps for lyme too?? Funny, I thought it was only for yeast/ candida...
LISA, Allicidin also kills lots of stuff, so you are still taking killers anyway, but that's good. I wouldn't stop all killers to 'see if my symptoms return'!!! Better be on the safe side, if you don't feel sick from it (I feel nausea after frozen garlic, that's rich in allicin...).
Glad to hear there are other people on mantainance protocols that are working!
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5 years ago a Natropath who was treating me administered a regiment of Cats Claw.The thing is this was no ordinary Cats Claw but it came straight from sourse, thats means that it actually came direct from the forests of Peru. I bought it in its purest form [like tree dark and had to painstakingly break it up and than boil it with water to form a drinkable tea] it tasted absolutely horrendous. over the space of about 5 months I drank this twice a day and attribute it to substantially helping ease many of my Lyme symptoms..
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D Bergy
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I assume that Cumanda kills Lyme since it produced a nasty herx similar to the Samento. There is not a lot of information about it so I am not positive.
But, most bacterial die offs do not produce a herx like Lyme does.
I think Cumanda also kills other bacteria or at least more than Samento does. We used it once to get rid off my sons Pneumonia, before we filled his prescription antibiotic. Two days he was completely well. I was amazed. No side effects like the antibiotic.
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Can you people post how much cat's claw and cumanda you are taking? And when to rotate?
Is this ok to do in conjunction with abx?
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hardynaka
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D Bergy, thanks for the info. But did you notice your lyme symtpoms getting better from it or it's more because of herxes?
I know fungi/ candida herxes are TERRIBLE, for me as worse (or even worse) than borrelia die off...
CD57: I take now only 2 capsules a day of cats claw, but my normal dose had been 3 00-size capsules a day for very long (about a year or more).
No idea how to rotate, there's a website on this protocol (but it's with toa-free cats claw, not whole herb like I take). In my experience, cats claw is an immunomodulator, not a killer , so I've been taking it without rotation.
One of its functions is to raise CD57 numbers!!!
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D Bergy
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My wife used up to twenty drops of either. When one stopped producing any noticeable reaction we would switch to the other.
At first we started at one drop each. Once she had used both for a while she would start out at ten drops and work her way quickly up to twenty.
I do not know if you should use it with ABX or not.
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Re: Cat's Claw, I was encouraged to read how much it helped you. Did you herx on it first? The LLMD put my daughter on it. I hope it helps her, too.
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What is cats claw?
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Cat's Claw is just ONE of the many great herbs in Stephen H. Buhner's book Healing Lyme, that you can buy from Amazon.com which is advertised directly to the left of this column.
Cat's Claw is good for Arthritis, cancer, asthma, and muscle pain. Plus a few other things.
I prefer it in capsule form, as does Buhner.
I have been taking it for 19 months now, along with a bunch of other herbs, to aleviate the Lyme disease.
I was up to 12 pills a day for well over 5 months but am only on 6 pills a day now of the Cats CLaw, along with like amounts of other herbs.
IF you take herbs properly for YOUR system you should not herx hard, if at all. Be sure to take the Lymph cleansing herbs too. Such as Red Root tincture, Milk Thistle and the blood cleanser, Smilax or Sarsaparilla.
How do we determine what will and won't work for us?
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hardynaka
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KAYDA, no one knows, you got to try and see by yourself. People react different, a bit like abx.
The source of the herb is also important, because of strenght and purity. There's also difference between cats claw whole herb and the extract (tincture) and other smaller variations here and there...
For whole herb, the best source that I know is still rain-tree, direct from the rain forests and they don't kill the plant while extracting the bark. It's very unexpensive if you buy powder. I bought only 2 pounds since I started treatment almost 2 years ago.
I didn't see 'herxes' exactly with cats claw in the beginning, mostly only improvement. Only later, I saw herxing-improvement pattern, but it's not constant.
I don't see cats claw as a 'direct' killer, even though many report herxing here. For me a killer is andrographis, garlic, pau d'arco etc, but cats claw is more an immunomodulator. -------------------
MERRY GIRL, do you mean high fevers or chills?
The best herb Buhner recommends is boneset. Unexpensive, found in many healthy stores in the US. Some people react with allergies though. It regulates body temperature in a very special way and has worked wonderful for some lyme sufferers (do a search here).
On homeopathy, I've been using DULCAMARA, at lower potencies, it also helps fast (but not always, like boneset did). Dulcamara helped my lower grade fevers (I never really had high fevers with lyme). But boneset seems to help both high and low grade fevers.
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Better be on the safe side, if you don't feel sick from it (I feel nausea after frozen garlic, that's rich in allicin...).![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
over the space of about 5 months I drank this twice a day and attribute it to substantially helping ease many of my Lyme symptoms..
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