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JimMet
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I've been hearing frequent radio ads from the American Neurological Association claiming that long term use of antibiotics is unnecessary for Lyme treatment. I don't believe it and doubt if Lyme specialists do, either. Anyone heard of plans to counter this misinformation?

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I haven't heard such crap. Sounds like propaganda to me.

I'll even come back and say that in a few months when I've been on abx for more than a month. I've been on them for a little over a month with very little progress.

Just keep plugging away with our message. It'll get out there eventually!

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They just totally **** me off! What station is doing this??

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Yes, please tell us what state and what radio station, so lyme community leaders in that area can discuss the inappropriateness of this type of mis-information dissemination with their business manager.

The radio station people need to know the truth.

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Why are they so interested in Lyme disease patients and their treatment. Is it because so many of their patients might actually have Lyme disease? Otherwise, why would they care?
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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=056420;p=1#000000

http://tinyurl.com/38y482

This is an earlier posting here, about the recent opening of the Columbia Lyme Center.

Poooor IDSA babies now have to pay to brainwash the public, since they cant win on science/research and clinical evidence, by themselves.

However, it is important for the radio station and state be posted, since it is possible it may be not true, or was misunderstood.

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I've heard it on more than one station, but the one I can absolutely identify is KAMO FM 94.3 out of Rogers, Arkansas. It is owned by Cumulus Broadcasting. Usually I'm driving when I hear it, but if I get a chance, I'll write down the websites that are referenced in the ad. It is presented as a public service announcement and in summary says that new studies show that short courses of antibiotics are suffient to treat new cases of Lyme and that longer courses are dangerous. I assumed this was a nationwide ad campaign. I hope I'm wrong.

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Trying to find internet info on this topic, I found the following links that I believe the radio ad is based on.

http://www.scienceevidence.com/2007/05/articles/science-news/lyme-disease-neurology-report-finds-no-benefit-for-prolonged-treatment/

and

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/557464

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If the medscape link asks for a login, Google "new guidelines issued for nervous system lyme disease."
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Would be nice if ILADS could come up with a simple PSA stating longterm meds are usually needed to treat Lyme/co-infections, and get that one out to the radio stations.
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Here's the link to the radio ad that is playing every day, several times a day, in my area.

http://www.aan.com/go/press/kits

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quote:
Originally posted by JimMet:
It is presented as a public service announcement and in summary says that new studies show that short courses of antibiotics are suffient to treat new cases of Lyme and that longer courses are dangerous.

Public Service Announcement??!! I thought those were FREE. I hope to goodness that the station isn't providing free air time to the ANA!!

If so, we can demand equal air time!

That really SUCKS! I guess we have the neuros and ID ducks running scared!

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Pure Evil and Greed -
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Raphael B. Stricker M.D.

Counterpoint: Long-Term Antibiotic Therapy
Improves Persistent Symptoms Associated
with Lyme Disease.

Go to ILADS site and click on , Publications

OR

http://www.ilads.org/files/publications_stricker_06_2007.pdf

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OK, so besides the "shell game", I thought of another
reason they actually have to spend money to
present their "Pea".

Ta da...they cant find anyone to hold rallies or write of suffering, continuing illness, insult and medical abandonment due to ILADS. So they use greenbacks
to garner public name recognition. Definetely does not have the same "punch" and actually may backfire, because it draws attention to the weakness of their guidelines.


N/

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I just listened to the public service announcement and I just CANT believe it. It's sickening. So many people will be harmed by that. I bet it's aimed at non-LLMDs.

When is this going to end?

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Everyone who hears this on a local radio station should complain to the station management, if they can figure out who that is nowadays when one big corporation owns a whole bunch of stations. Sounds to me like the big media conglomerates are being used to further the aims of the big insurance corporations.

I would call this scientific malpractice. Can someone tape this so we have it as evidence when the happy day comes and we can sue the pants off these crooks. Speaking now of Wormser and his buddies, wherever they appear in some official medical society, using it as a tool.

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Why Arkansas?
Has anyone else heard these in any other states?

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Do you all know what this means? It means that Lyme patients and ILADS are making a difference!

Why else would the ads be running? Would they run if nobody used long term abx? If patients weren't demanding adequate treatment?

In any fight for justice, things get worse before they get better. Those in power will do anything in order to stay in power when they begin to lose their grip.

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Jim -
Does Arkansas require insurance companies to pay for long-term lyme treatment (like Rhode Island)? Just thinking the ads might be a way to discourage people from seeking treatment that would have to be covered.

[ 02. August 2007, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: bystander ]

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Bystander,

I don't know the answer to your question about Arkansas insurance companies. I'm an Optometric Physician and wrote antibiotic prescriptions for myself until I was (for the most part) symptom free. I have insurance under my wife's employment and paid only our deductible for the meds during the eleven months I took them for my Lyme. I didn't have any trouble with the insurance company.

I'm relieved to hear that these radio ads haven't been playing elsewhere. They are still playing several times a day here and have been for at least a month.

I have diagnosed Lyme in several of my patients and sent them to a LLD in Springfield, MO for treatment. These ads may make his treating them properly more difficult. Certainly, if I were a new Lyme victim, I'd tend to mistrust any doctor who suggested long term treatment after I had heard the ad.

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from 1 of our very active lymenet members sent to me today and i forwarded it along....


The following link takes you to the press releases that the Academy of Neurology is putting out endorsing the IDSA guidelines. You'll note that some of the same board members at the Neurology Academy sit on the IDSA board ! Their transparency and desperation is laughable.



The Neurology Academy has been sold a bill of goods by these lunatics. Never would I have deemed it possible that a group of medical people would work so vigorously and with such malice against a group of desperately ill people. But, here it is. No doubt, this is a response to the CT. AG investigation.


I've posted below contact info for the PR person at the Neurology Academy.


In my personal letter to them I'll be mentioning the CT. AG investigation, the fact that NIH funded studies found long-term abx are effective.


They state in their press release that "all" scientific evidence points to short-term efficacy and long-term ineffectiveness. The NIH's two studies prove otherwise. These are outright lies.


I'll also be mentioning that the Neurological Academy may be opening themselves up to litigation with such false claims, especially people that adhere to them and are
inappropriately treated. Read on and act.


The radio ads are terrible. Press releases are being sent to media outlets:
http://www.aan.com/go/press/kits


CONTACT INFO FOR THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF NEUROLOGY
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Angela Babb - Media & Public Relations Program Manager
[email protected] (651) 695-2789

American Academy of Neurology
1080 Montreal Avenue - Saint Paul, MN 55116
Tel: (800) 879-1960 or (651) 695-2717
Fax: (651) 695-2791
Email: [email protected]


start emailing again folks; this member has provided all the info necessary for this huge injustice! [cussing]

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[cussing] [rant] [cussing]

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[cussing] up to remind folks including me to write in on the above!! please make this one letter to write ok. [Wink] [group hug] [kiss]
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So what about getting out our ad for longterm abx? Something ILADS could do?

"Contrary to radio ads you may have heard by the American Neurology Association, Lyme-treating doctors and patients have found benefit in the use of longterm antibiotics." Etc.

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I just got off the phone with the program director responsible for running these ads. I explained to him that the issue was still being debated and not yet resolved. I also cited the August 6 issue of Newsweek. He seemed very receptive and said that he would "look into it." He also mentioned that he had heard Daryl Hall interviewed recently and that he now understood how difficult diagnosis could be. I think he'll pull the ads.

Jim

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quote:
Originally posted by JimMet:
I think he'll pull the ads.

Jim

GREAT JOB, JIM!!!! Keep us posted!! [Smile]

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JIM, thanks for taking the initiative to get down to nitty gritty by contacting this individual, being civil, pointing out the facts, etc., and Daryl Oates recent interview has helped tremendously too.

[bonk] you rock jim! [bonk]

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I think the ads have been pulled. I listened to the station several hours this weekend and heard none. Before calling the program manager, I used to hear one every couple of hours.

Jim

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Super Job, Jim.

Congratulations on a job well done.

I couldn't even bring myself to pull up the link and was very upset in the beginning of this thread. I'm glad I kept reading!

Aniek said something that made me feel better, too - they are running scared.

We will prevail!!

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