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stymielymie
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anybody with continuous itching of the skin.
everywhere???????

take zertec everyday must not helping.
foot pain was Morton's neuroma of nerve in foot
injection will help, he says.

is this round 28 starting??????
i was knockout in the 10th round but managed to get up .
this time i may sit this one out and watch from the seats!!!!!!

d [dizzy] ocdave

[ 17. July 2007, 09:00 AM: Message edited by: stymielymie ]

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yes it is kenalog, and had a long talk with them about it.
it stays local in joint.

do you think i'm allergic to my wife???????

probably just stress of moving.
my wife took a 26 foot truck full to new house and it was bought fully furnished.
can't figure women out.

daveeey [dizzy]

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Parisa
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My husband has had periods of intense itching. Someone somewhere said that babs causes it (so it must be so!).

A couple of times I covered him in a paste made of baking soda and cool water. Helps for a while.

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Could it be fungal? I recall extreme itchies everywhere - even inside my ears!! Upping Oil of Oregano, topical application of diluted clove oil and Diflucan made it stop.

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Hubby had intense itching when he first started doxy. His shins, ankles, etc. broke out in terrible rashes.
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itchy itchy itchy

Especialy in the evening.

2 benadyl a night make sleeping really deep.
I do like sleeping!!!!!!!!

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I itch, itch, itch, all the time. I don't have any cure-alls for it either.

But I do have it also. And it is also worse when my joint pain flares up. Don't know how those relate to each other either.

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styimelymie

Babs causes Really Bad itching
I never found anything that really helped
except treatment --Jay--

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LisaS
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Hi Stymie,
We're on the same track, today my two new symptoms were itching all over and sore bottoms of my feet. It never fails, when Im curious about something, I go on here and always find it! Hope you find some ansers to help you!

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I just went to the derm today to find out why I was itching my arms off. It turns out I have Brachioradial Pruritus and it is related to periphiral neuropathy, cervical damage, and the sun.

http://dermnetnz.org/site-age-specific/brachioradial-pruritus.html

The skin looks normal until I scratch it to death.

I had stopped taking Topomax and Elavil because my nerve pain was gone. I didn't connect the itching to my stopping these meds, they are sometimes given for Brachioradial Pruritus.

I am hoping not to go back on the meds. I am using the hot pepper cream and am going to stay out of the sun (hard to do as I live in Hawaii) and see if it helps.

The itching can be so intense.

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thanks lucy for more insight! i read the link you posted.

dave, CORN STARCH BRUSHED ON helps me A LITTLE! i can't soak in the tub; so that;'s out due to my new hip replacement. don't want that popping out!

good luck; i feel for all of us with 24/7 itching! [group hug] [kiss]

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cholestyramine (questran) is good for itching. I took it when I thought I was going to scratch all the skin off my arms and it stopped.

I read somewhere that it's used for generalized itching associated with bile duct obstruction, might give it a try.

Charlie

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This is the time of year that the sun causes all of us to itch because of the interaction with our meds and the sun. I had forgotten that until I was outside for awhile the other day and started itching everywhere. I put sun screen on ( 50 ) and it helped some. Noticed later tho that my scalp was itching horribly... not willing to put sunscreen there but thought next time to wear a hat!!
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Marnie
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Breakdown of histidine (Bb's "zinc fingers") -> histamine? Zinc fingers contain cysteine and histidine bound to zinc. Watch spelling carefully i.e. histidine and histamine.

IgE...kicking in...allergic reactions...shoulda happened off the bat if Bb wasn't wearing a trench coat (Salp 15 protein to cloak itself and avoid detection.)

"Adcortyl

For intra-articular use for alleviating the joint pain, swelling and stiffness associated with rheumatoid arthritis and osteo-arthritis with an inflammatory component; also for bursitis, epicondylitis and tenosynovitis
For intra-dermal (intra-lesional) use in lichen simplex chronicus, granuloma annulare, lichen planus, keloids, alopeica areata and hypertrophic scars

Kenalog

For intra-articular use as Adcortyl above

For intramuscular use where a sustained systemic corticosteroid treatment is required

i.e. in allergic states e.g. bronchial asthma, seasonal or perennial allergic rhinitis (if seasonal one injection is often sufficient to induce remission of symptoms), endocrine disorders e.g. primary or secondary adrenocortical insufficiency, collagen disorders e.g. during an exacerbation of systemic lupus erythematosus or acute rheumatic carditis, dermatological conditions e.g. severe dermatitis or Stevens-Johnson syndrome, haematological conditions e.g. acquired autoimmune haemolytic anaemias, neoplastic diseases e.g. in the palliative management of lymphomas and leukaemia, adjunctive, short-term therapy of rheumatic, gastro-intestinal or respiratory disorders and renal disease e.g. lupus nephritis, minimal change nephritic syndrome or acute interstitial nephritis"

UV light might trigger histidine -> histamine.

http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v106/n4/abs/5610573a.html

Go here:

http://www.innvista.com/health/nutrition/amino/histidin.htm

http://www.diet-and-health.net/Nutrients/Histidine.html

Undermethylated (above)

On the "good side":

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/304/2/624

It also lowers cAMP. (As does oxidative stress.)

When the body comes into contact with an intruder, B-cells - an integral part of the body's immune system - treat it as hostile and act accordingly, by manufacturing antibodies.

This is known as the sensitisation phase.

But sometimes the immune system manufactures the

wrong type of antibodies.

The reasons for this are not fully understood, but such factors as genetic make-up, the environment and exposure to dirt and disease in childhood may be important.

Whatever the cause, the B-cells mistakenly create E-antibodies, also known as IgE-antibodies or immunoglobin E.

E-antibodies are designed to tackle large intruders, such as tapeworms or

ticks.

Like other antibodies, E-antibodies are made as a response to a specific threat.

However, unlike other antibodies, E-antibodies cling to mast cells, which produce and store histamine.

When E-antibodies encounter the invader that first led to their production, they are activated and bind together, and a large amount of histamine is released into the system as a result. Put simply, the body overreacts to the threat."

http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/0-9/4health/body/hal_allergies.html


Scand J Immunol. 2007 Apr;65(4):376-82.

Immunoglobulin (Ig) E may provide immunity against Borrelia burgdorferi infection (Lyme disease) in children which lasts throughout adulthood.

We investigated the presence and persistence of IgE anti-B. burgdorferi antibodies (Abs) in paediatric patients infected with Lyme disease over time.

Serum immunoglobulin levels, presence of IgG and IgE anti-B. burgdorferi components, and distributions of blood T, B and natural killer lymphocyte subsets were studied in B. burgdorferi-infected and -uninfected children (nephelometry, UniCAP Total IgE Fluoroenzymeimmunoassay, Western blot, flow cytometry).

Total serum IgM, IgG, IgE and IgA levels, and distributions of blood lymphocytes (CD4(+), CD8(+), CD19(+)) of both groups, excluding CD8(+)CD60(+) T cells, were within normal ranges.

However, infected, but not uninfected children made IgG anti-B. burgdorferi proteins p18, p31, p34, p41, p45, but not IgG anti-p60, and IgE anti-B. burgdorferi proteins p31, p34, p41, p45, p60, but not IgE anti-p18.

These proteins were also detected in an infected child 1 year post-infection. Interestingly, CD8(+)CD60(+) T-cell numbers were significantly increased (fourfold) in infected, compared with uninfected, patients (P=0.001).

These results demonstrate that specific IgE anti-B. burgdorferi Abs are generated and persist in children with Lyme disease and that CD8(+)CD60(+) T cells may play an important role in these responses.

PMID: 17386029

I'd rather talk about cAMP.

[ 17. July 2007, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: Marnie ]

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Hey fellow itchies,

I had lots of horrible itching (in fact that was one of my worst lyme symptoms). I've been diagnosed with small fiber peripheral neuropathy (very low nerve density in my skin). My neurologist told me that my itching was a form of pain as my nerves died from the lyme toxins.

The itching turned into burning and tingling.

My itching has gone down substantially with rocephin and tindimax.

Also, since us lymies are prone to neuropathies, be careful with vitamin B6. I had high B6 in my blood and I was taking a B supplement. When I stopped the itching/burning started to subside.

If you're taking B supplements (even a just and ordinary multi that has B in it), maybe stop for a few days and see if you have any improvement.

Just an idea...

Allie

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AliG
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Leukemia & Polycythemia come up when I search the symptoms "bone pain" and "itching all over" on www.wrongdiagnosis.com

I hope it's not either of those. If the keets are in your marrow, would the clindamycin(?) help? Was that the one you said targets tooth & bone?


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[Frown]
Ali

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I have strange itches in various locations, which get treated with ointments every couple hours. I experimented with anti-itch topicals to see what would work. Caladryl works for one place. Another gets aloe vera jelly. And another, ketoconazole(rx).
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nothing is continuous with my symptoms-but as of late-intense itching-comes and goes-I just scratch the heck out it.

Take Care,
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ps-Heatherkiss-looks like you're taking LSD!

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