Topic: What SUPPLEMENT helps crying spells? Kidney infections?
bettyg
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One of our members wishes to remain anonymous, and has the following problems; I can't help them; have no more knowledge than what I've shared earlier.
Has this been happening or happened to you? Please share your PERSONAL EXPERIENCES to help this person over the big hump that's going on. THANKS so much everyone!
I slept all day today. Could not sleep at all last night. Was up every hour going to the bathroom. Just when I thought I was getting better. I am just so frustrated,
Betty. I just want to cry all the time. I am so tired and sleepy- and do not feel like doing anything. I miss my friends and doing "happy things."
I know all these problems are related to Lyme, and the fact that doctors do not know, or just want to deny it, has about left me desperately depressed.
Doctors have given me anti-depressants over the past few years, but none of them has helped, and they made me feel terrible .
Do you know of any supplement that might help? I trust your opinion and help.
Yesterday afternoon, I was at the drug store, and their security guard (who is an acquaintance) was asking me how I was doing and how was my grand daughter. It was all I could do, not to cry.
It is just so hard, dealing with Lyme and Rheumatoid Arthritis, both of which people do not understand, unless they have them. I just feel like I am never going to be the "happy" Kay that I used to be.
I have a couple of friends who called recently, and I have not returned their calls, as I know I will start to cry when I call them.
When I talk to my son and daughter-in-law, I put on "a happy face," so that they will not worry about me. Most of the time I manage to do it, but sometimes, when I am having a really bad day, I just cannot do it.
I am so upset because this kidney problem won't go away. I took another home test today, and it was still positive. I am just beside myself, because I want to get started on the Remicade IV for my RA, and cannot as long as I have any infection.
I cannot see an end to it, because I think it is related to Lyme, and I just am at my wits end. I don't even want to mention Lyme when I go to the doctors.
Yesterday, I was determined that today I was going to call and re-schedule my Remicade treatment, but when I did the urine test at 5 a.m. and it was positive, it just broke my spirit to the hilt.
I am stuck between a rock and hard place, and hate to have to put off this treatment. I almost feel like going ahead and doing it, and taking my chances. So many people have good results from it in regards to RA.
I am sorry to dump on you, but I know you understand, and have probably heard it all. If nothing else, it is just good to get some of this off my shoulders.
I hope tomorrow, I will get my act together and go to see someone about my kidneys again. ANONYMOUS
Marnie
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Infect Immun, 1991 Jan, 59(1), 269 - 78
Molecular detection of persistent Borrelia burgdorferi in the urine of patients with active Lyme disease; Goodman JL et al.;
Current diagnostic tests for Lyme disease (LD) are dependent upon the host serologic response and are insensitive early in infection and, possibly, following antibiotic therapy .
We cloned a library of Borrelia burgdorferi 297 DNA and studied one clone, Ly-1, for its potential in diagnostic and pathogenic studies .
Using pulsed-field electrophoresis, we demonstrated that Ly-1 is of chromosomal origin and estimated that the B . burgdorferi chromosome is approximately 1,100 kb in size .
The 3.7-kb Ly-1 clone hybridizes with geographically diverse strains of B . burgdorferi . No cross hybridization occurs with DNA from human cells, Escherichia coli, Staphylococcus aureus, Clostridium difficile, or the closely related B . hermsii .
We used a dot blot assay to detect 100 pg of B . burgdorferi DNA . We partially determined the nucleotide sequence of Ly-1 and used it to select and synthesize oligonucleotides for use in the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) . Two different primer pairs were found to amplify DNA from nine geographically diverse isolates .
We could detect 10 fg (less than 10 molecules) of B . burgdorferi or less than five spirochetes added to human urine .
Finally, we were able to use the PCR to detect B . burgdorferi DNA in the urine of four of eight patients with suspected active LD (three with arthritis and one with neurologic manifestations), all of whom responded to antibiotic treatment .
In contrast, those patients who were PCR negative either had inactive disease or had been appropriately treated and did not respond to additional antibiotics, and all four control urine specimens were PCR negative .
We conclude that B . burgdorferi DNA can be sensitively detected by the PCR with the primers and methods we describe and that the urinary tract is a site of persistent infection in some cases of human LD, an observation of potential diagnostic and pathogenic importance.
P.S. Crying is not bad. There is cortisol in our tears. This is being reduced...a good thing.
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Aniek
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B-Mannos is supposed to help with bladder infections, and I'd think therefore kidney infections too. But honestly, if it's a bacterial kidney infection you need antibiotics to kill iot.
If one antibiotic doesn't work, then your friend needs to get a prescription for another. That happened with my first UTI.
As for the crying, my one piece of advice is to cut back on sugars if she eats a lot. Regulating blood sugars helps regulate mood. It won't solve things, but could help if you eat a lot of sugars.
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merrygirl
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I have no real advice for this person, but wanted to let them know that I hope that they feel better soon, and antidepressants may actually help.
It can take a long time to find the right one for the person. I have had luck with Zoloft.
I have tried a ton of them and I have felt the same way as this person as far as the depair of not being normal and doing things. I cant tell you
the last thing I have done for fun. If this person would like to PM me about antidepressants feel free. I would not say anything to anyone.
I may be new to Lyme, but not to depression, anxiety and OCD.
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Maca root.It will cover all those things.And once you get your energy and life back,you will feel you have life,and the crying will stop.It has worked for many.I buy it from
firstchineseherbs.com
Also order 00 capsules to put it in,take 3 in morning,and 3 in afternoon. Read this site, http://www.peruvian-maca.com/
but im telling you buy it from first chinese herbs,there stuff is high quaility.And you can get a whole pound for what they want to sell you a few capsules for.
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randibear
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i could have written that myself. been down a lot lately.
this is sooo discouraging.
putting on a face for others -- i wake up in a bad mood because of the pain, i can't help it.
and having a spouse who says it's all my weight and so and so, it just gets too much......
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clairenotes
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Have you not started the traditional treatment for lyme? Wouldn't this possibly help with the kidney infection?
I have noticed that when my lymphatic system is clogged, like during an infection, I feel a lot more emotional. This is like clockwork!
When this happens I try to do anything to get the lymphatic/circulatory system moving. Dry brushing, hot baths, any movement or exercise that is possible, saunas if available, and lots of water.
Some people swear by red root tincture to help unblock the lymphatic system and get proper flow restored.
Supporting my adrenals helps me with the stress (including crying jags caused by stress). I like Devil's Club tincture for this by Herbpharm, and RealSalt or Himalayan salt for the minerals. Also it might be important to eat an alkaline type of diet right now, which would not include any sugar.
Also, not sure if this could be an option for you, but acupuncture helped me a lot with emotions and basic stability. Night and day transformation!
Best wishes,
Claire
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Mangosteen, mangosteen, mangosteen for both problems.
Get the ORIGINAL mangosteen supplement.
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bettyg
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you know, I just love lymenet members who respond to SOS calls; everyone gives so much to this board in helping others during crisis situations!
thank you to: marnie, aniek, merrygirl, 8man, randibear, clairenotes, and lymetoo
for all your good suggestions and personal experience for this member; i know she is very appreciative of your advise!
God bless you all for your kindnesses shown & education!
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Vermont_Lymie
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Sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. I have had tremendous lethary at times with lyme, so I know how that goes. Sorry to hear that it is compounded with a kidney infection.
Supplements that have helped me include Siberian Gingseng -- a good mood and energy booster -- and all the nutritional supplements (B50, methyl B-12, magnesium).
My llmd recommended rhiodolia (spelling?), as a great energy booster, but it actually made me sleepy! But other folks love it, you might try it.
Please talk to your llmd first, to make sure that these supplements do not stress your kidneys! Hope you feel better soon.
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Vanilla
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Feel better and what has really helped me with my moods is Green Hope Farms flower essences.
They have all kinds of good ones for moods. I like Ice Plant, Borage and Fairy Rose. If you call them they will send you a free book and also help you pick out an essence or two or three that will help any issue you might have. They have one for bladder problems called Flow Free. Since I started using their essences my whole life and moods have greatly improved.
I have no relationship with Green Hope Farm. If you would like their phone number feel free to send me a PM.
Ele-max by Tyler which you can find on-line is herbal and it helps with moods and also anxiety. I love the stuff and no I have no relationship with Tyler Corp.
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bettyg
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thank you vermont lymie and vanilla for your contributions as well!
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Awww, big (((hug))))! It sucks, plain & simple. I so remember being where u are emotionally. Don't give up, just keep up.
In your dispair, don't go forward w/ a treatment u know in your heart of hearts u are not ready for - the old cut your nose off to spite your face.
Try to get outside & get some sunshine - it does improve your mood.
Avoid the people in your life that cause u stress- you know the ones - the drama queens, the naggers, etc - but do reach out to the one's that make you laugh.
Don't worry about missed calls. Call them when your up to it. If they don't understand, and they prolly won't, it's going to have to be their problem, not yours - your a little busy now trying to fight the system to get well.
My best friend (in another state) didn't call for like 8 months - cuz it was my turn to call her! I explained it to her like this: If the phone rings, I answer it; but basically I don't have the energy to keep up with anyone.
For me, the crying jags finally stopped after going on a combo anti depressant/anti anxiety - I think it was called Reglan. Wonderful stuff...Stopped the panic attacks as an added bonus. Till then, I cried a river daily.I don't take it anymore, but couldn't have gotten thru the 2 yrs I was on it without it.
Don't stress yourself by trying to see the end in sight - just try to see tomorrow as a better day.
These symptoms will 1 by 1 disappear w/ treatment.
It helped me to look around and see that as bad as I was there were people that had it worse.
I too don't sleep well, as you can tell by the time of my post. When you can't sleep - do something...research, a hot bath,a computer game - anything but laying there watching the clock. Sleep when u can, even if it's 7 am to noon.
I hope tomorrow is a better day for u, I will keep u in my prayers. Posts: 176 | From Tenn | Registered: Jul 2004
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Sorry, I forgot how to post reply. Finally figured it out.
I want to thank everyone for their responses to the post that bettyg put out regarding my problems. Seeing everyone's replys gave me hope and strength. I will no longer remain anonomous.
I will read over your responses again, and take notes, and then try some of your suggestions.
It is so good to know that there are people who care, and have been through some of the same things.
I truly appreciate your care and understanding. Thank you so much.
K- in Virginia
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You're welcome, K!!! Never worry about asking questions here!!!
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merrygirl
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Good Luck K! I hope you feel better! Posts: 3905 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
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bettyg
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hi Kay! glad you came and read all the wonderful suggestions for yourself/others suffering from the same thing!
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AliG
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I used "Holy Basil" to wean off anti-depressants twice.
Once was Effexor which is known to be one of the hardest.
It really helps.
I didn't notice if anyone mentioned Cranberry for the kidney infection. They have capsules. The unsweetened juice can be pretty tough to take.
Good luck finding a solution that works for you.
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Cass A
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I use B Complex and additional B-1, C and Calcium for emotional situations that are just not apparently related to what's happening.
Also, walking around really looking at things in the environment and paying attention to observe them as they are also helps a LOT. It's so easy to get introverted looking for why this is happening, why do I feel this way, etc. Usually, the result of this type of introversion is feeling a LOT worse, whereas putting your attention outward onto your environment can be a remarkable assistance to being more able to get on with life.
I have used D-Mannose successfully on more than one occasion to handle a real urinary infection, as has a friend of mine. It's sold as UTRACT. About 1/4 tsp. every 4 hours, continuing for a day after the symptoms are completely gone, will do it!
However, if the infection is out of control, with fever, etc., I would go with antibiotics first to knock it down.
This is from my personal experience, and is not intended as medical advice.
Best,
Cass A
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