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I've ordered a Doug Coil machine and should receive it in about six weeks or so.
In the meantime, I'm trying to really educate myself about rifing, as much as I can.
I'm currently reading "The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing" by Nina Silver.
I also plan to read Bryan Rosner's "When Antibiotics Fail...Lyme Disease and Rife Machines" next.
Does anyone know of any other good books or websites on the subject?
My LLMD said 75% of his patients who have tried it, have been helped by it, so that, in itself, is encouraging. Of course, I was the one that brought it up!
He did advise me to respect it as a very powerful healing modality and to start with only 15 seconds and wait a few days, before I did another session, just to see how my body is going to react to it. That I will definitely do!
Does anyone here with any experience in this have any advice, tips, or suggestions for me, as I begin to explore and utilize this treatment for lyme disease?
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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I have been rifing for 2 months with an EMEM5 and it is definitely helping. It seems to take the place of antibiotics for me. Which is great because it is cheaper, easier, and more convenient than antibiotics!!
We'll see if the results keep up....but so far I am happy I tried it.
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I have not used the Doug coil but have experience using a Rife machine for Lyme and other conditions.
I agree, that you need to start out with a real short session when using it for Lyme. There is no way to tell how a person will react for the first time. After a few treatments you will know what to expect.
If you have any questions there are a few people here that have experience with Rife devices. I am sure they will try answer any questions you may have.
The Yahoo Lyme Rife Group is a good place to ask questions
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I'll be sure to check things out!
Yes, I already knew that about doctors and rifing, but I do believe my doctor was glad I brought it up and am willing to try it.
You're welcome for the comment! Good luck with your machine and figuring out your herbal protocol!
I couldn't agree with you more about it being work to get well, but, like you, improvements that others experience are definitely encouraging!
I will definitely be careful! I need to be reminded to not get in a hurry!
Good luck to you too!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm so happy to hear that it's working for you and hope it continues to do so! I'm hoping I can replace my antibiotics or, at least, some of them, with rifing too!
Good Luck!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thanks for sharing your experience and giving me some things to think about!
I've already joined the Yahoo group, which has been a big help to me already! Thank you for making sure I knew about it though!
Good luck to you too!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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PLEASE READ 'CROSS CURRENTS' BEFORE YOU RIFE!
I bought a Rife Machine, and I honestly feel sick when I use it. I seem to react to every setting, too - even some far-out-there diseases that I am unlikely to have ever come in contact with.
If you read this book, it will become clear to you that the problem is not these bugs, but rather manmade electromagnetic fields (cell phones, wireless, etc...) which are causing these bugs to cross the neuro-protective blood-brain barrier and stick around.
Don't use Rife though - we have no idea what the long-term effects of this are. My ex had a brain tumor removed due to his cell phone use/radar exposure - Rifers may be next!
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention! I appreciate the suggestion!
I checked out the website a little and will do so, some more, when I'm feeling a little better.
As for the books, I think I found them on Amazon.com. Are they both by Robert Becker? I just want to make sure I have the right ones. Please let me know!
As far as I can tell, I don't have any EMF sensitivity, at the moment, anyway. Who knows when I could though or maybe I do and just don't know it, but I'm not sure about that.
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
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Jennie - yes! The are both by Robert Becker - 'The Body Electric' and 'Cross Currents'.
In fact, he mentions Lyme Disease in 'The Body Electric' - briefly, though after reading it, you will understand completely why this electromagnetic chaos is causing chronic infection and illness!
I would probably start with 'Cross Currents', though they are both excellent books.
Keep in mind that I did not realize I was electromagnetically sensitive for many years.
These fields are dangerous to humans, and a lot of the danger has been suppressed due to the techno boom and the economic consequences that would result if this info were to come to light.
I believe this is also the reason behind the disappearing honeybees.
These dangerous fields:
- cause bacteria, fungi, and viruses to replicate out of control!
- cause bacteria, fungi, viruses, and toxins to cross the blood-brain barrier!
- cause metals to redistribute in key organs such as the brain, eyes, heart, liver, kidneys, reproductive organs!
A lot of people with Lyme have food allergies and intolerances. If you were to google high copper and high iron foods and which foods you'd need to avoid, guess what? - they correspond to the MOST COMMON food allergens...
- wheat, corn, soy, nuts, seeds, eggs, fish, etc...all of these are excellent sources of one or both of these 'conductors'.
Read these books - everything will then make total sense to you.
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By the way, these two books deal primarily with ordinary 60hz alternating house current exposure. Some scientists advocate direct current as opposed to alternating current for this reason - it's not safe!
Imagine what happens when cell phones and wireless internet are added to an already dangerous mix.
You won't regret considering this as part of chronic Lyme.
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Having said it before, I wouldn't go near a Doug Coil. The Doug Coil was probably okay in the early 90's when it was developed and supposedly worked. Today we live in a very toxic world and as you electrocute the bugs, you are setting a flood of heavy metals into motion that is difficult for a body to handle.
I much prefer microcurrent, a biological current. We are living in an electromagnetically stressed environment - do we really want to add more? We have created an electromagnetic energie field that has become detrimental to us - the hopefully more evolved organisms.
Do a search here on KMT microcurrent - you will find a lot of information. I used the KMT when it first came out and have used it ever since. It is gentle and safe, and basically stops the microbes from replicating with inhibitory frequencies Every conceivable microorganism that we know to be involved with Lyme Disease and most chronic disease are programmed/bundled into the KMT. You can choose the channel according to your specific needs, symptoms, including a lymphatic drainage channel, etc. And very important, it runs on rechargable batteries. Not connected to household current.
In fact, I am scared of the Doug and not very excited about the other rifes mainly because of the direct contact with household current.
Check all things out and make sure you fully understand.
Take care.
P.S. Never use any of these instruments without preparing yourself with the mop-up agents, such as chlorella, etc. When bugs die, environmental toxins are being released, and metals start to circulate that need to be mopped up and helped to leave the body permanently. This is often mistaken as a herxheimer.
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Thank you very much for a very informative reply! I will certainly look into it!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
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Thank you so much for sharing such important information with me!
From what I have been able to gather, through my own research, yes, I do believe that it is very important to consider heavy metal toxicity, when you have lyme, and follow some protocols to bind them up, while treating lyme too.
I also believe that a herxheimer reaction can be mistaken as metals floating around, instead of just bacteria dieoff. I think I may have been unknowingly guilty of this in the past!
I think Bryan Rosner's new book "The Top 10 Lyme Disease Treatments" does a good job of explaining how metals, specifically mercury, go hand in hand with lyme. It has really opened my eyes!
Keeping in mind that I still have my mercury fillings, what can I take to start lowering my heavy metal levels?
If I can take chlorella, how much should I take and what kind? Should I take it all at once or space it out throughout the day? How can I expect it to make me feel? From what I gather, that sounds like the first thing I should start taking, but only if I can safely do it now, without having my fillings removed, just yet.
If there are some other things that I can take, what do you suggest and how much?
It's a long story, but I'm looking at being able to have my fillings removed, sometime early next year. In the meantime, I don't want to do anything to harm myself, as I'm already sick enough! I know that you are very knowledgeable in the lyme and heavy metals area, so any advice that you can give me, just may save me alot of grief!
I have a KMT24, but haven't used it yet. That's another long story, but I should be in a better position, where I can start using it, hopefully, in October. You have me thinking now that I should set rifing aside and try it, instead.
A few weeks ago I did do a heavy metals 24 hour urine test through Genova Diagnostics, after getting a one hour deep tissue massage, per my doctor's suggestion. I just got my results, but am currently waiting for my doctor to explain them to me, along with what I should do. I will post more about that, when I find out more.
Thank you for bringing all of this to my attention! My eyes and ears are open to learning all that you can share with me, so please teach me! I want to get well, like you!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Jennie - I noticed you also have a post here regarding heparin injections. A lot of people on here think I'm nuts, BUT...
PLEASE DEMAND YOUR DOCTOR TEST YOU FOR MALARIA. MINE WAS EQUIVOCAL (they are not sure), AND I'VE NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE OF THE US.
I had my equivocal malaria redrawn and should find out the results tomorrow.
If it is negative, I am going to have it drawn a third time.
If it is equivocal, ditto.
I believe this is why I am able to see veins and blood vessels over the left side of my chest.
I also believe this is why I cannot tolerate any high iron foods and have basically had to walk around anemic for many years to survive.
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Hi jjeannnniiee
I have been doing rife for about a year now. I don't have a doug coil but an EMEM machine
The very best advise I could give you at this point is start out very slowly in the beginning.
Slow & steady wins the race. Wait till you clear the herxing before you rife again.
Good luck. I truely believe after 4 years of intensive TX and one year off all abx that my rife machine is helping me to remain stable.
good luck Dana
noen of the above is medical advise...just my 2 cents
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I'm sorry to hear about your troubles! I hope you are able to get some answers soon!
Testing for malaria doesn't sound like such a bad idea to me, at all, especially since I've never even been tested! What's the best test and who does it?
Thanks!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thank you for sharing your experience and offering me some sound advice!
I'm glad to hear that it's helping you! That's very encouraging!
Good luck to you too!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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I have a EMEM and I love it!! I would recommend anyone who is just starting out to go really slow.
Good luck, Kathy
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My equivocal malaria test was through Quest - mostly because I really didn't expect it to be equivocal.
Quest is not the greatest lab though. In fact, the fact that Quest pulled an 'equivocal' (as opposed to negative) is one reason I think I do have malaria since they are notorious for false negatives when it comes to Lyme.
I think IGeneX (if they do malaria tests) or even Lab Corps would be the better choice. Good luck and keep us posted!
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Don't despair, I know some of the folks here are against rife, but frankly, I have been using the doug coil since April 2003 and it has been very effective for me. It has allowed me to be free of antibiotics for the most part.
The coil has been the most reliable of all the rife machines(have 7 different models) I have including the KMT series(which Gigi will correctly point out is not technically a rife machine).
Make sure you give your body a chance to detox. Also, I would use only frequencies above 100 hertz. I work full time and was able to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro last Christmas with my family...so the rife machines must be doing something right.
Good luck and happy rifing! Ernie
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Yes, I plan to take it slow and easy! I keep reminding myself that I didn't get this sick overnight, so I'm not going to get well overnight; therefore, the key is babysteps along the way back to health!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thanks for sharing what you know about malaria testing! I do think it might be a good idea to get tested, through a reliable lab, just to see what the test would show. I also understand though that the test is not exactly reliable, so maybe it's just better to go ahead and treat for it anyway? Sometimes it's just so hard to know what to do, concerning infections.
I'm sorry to hear that you think you're suffering from it! What are you taking for it and how is it working for you?
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thanks for sharing your experience, offering some words of encouragement, and reminding me to go slow! Going slow seems to be the general concensus, as to the most important thing to consider, when rifing, especially when first starting out. I will definitely heed the warning!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thanks for sharing your rifing knowledge and experience with me! I'm happy to hear that it's working for you! That's amazing that you can work full time and have climbed a mountain! Those are things which I'm unable to do, at least, at this point in my healing process!
Keep up the good work! I hope it works the same for me, as it has for you! Before I rife though, I'm going to try the KMT24, first. Maybe it will help me more than I realize, right now!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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"I hear the sound of a broken record.... scratch, scratch."
Be careful on here, newbies. If you thought Lyme was bad, just wait until you experience the forums here.
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