Topic: DE for DETOX, is THE BEST THING I have come across
Jellybelly
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I am one week into antibiotics again, Minocycline. Normally I herx severely, feel horrible, and even developed a cyst on one of my wrists last time, which immediately went away when I stopped the abx. That usually happens and I take less then 15 mgs every other day.
I have wanted to just be able to jump in and take the full dose, so as to maybe get to my brain and possibly this eye infection I have had for likely more then 6 months! So, I started slow for a couple of days and not to bad, so about 4 days ago I pumped it all the way to 200 mgs a day. This is unheard of for me. I have even landed in the ER herxing so badly before doing full dose Doxy.
This time I wanted to work at detoxifying and decided to really work at that using a product that one of my physcial therapists gave me. She said this product brought her back from death's door with all of her organs beginning to fail at the same time due to accidental petroleum poisening which she was not aware was happening.
The product is diatomaceous earth. It is in a nut shell, earth that it is found on the bottom of lakes and oceans. It is superfine ground shells. It is HIGHLY aborbant and also has a interesting way of destroying parasites.
It has been used in the vetrinary field for quite some time and has only more recently been applied toward humans.
Instead of me trying to explain it, here is a link with some information. I am not endorsing any particular product, but there is just some interesting information provided on this website and you can look for more info on your own. It is a natural product a ground shells seem pretty basic.
The results for me so far have been really good. I am now taking it 2 times a day. I am still herxing, but it is definetly bearable and the signs of inflammation are not there. My joints still hurt, although not as bad. I do feel like the highter dose of Mino may be getting to my brain, as I have had a headache for about 2 solid days. My focus is way off, dizzy and I do feel a bit in another realm, but all very bearable.
I am hoping that it is the diatomaceoous earth removing toxins and that I am NOT just around the corner of a full blown herx. I'll let you know if that happens.
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clairenotes
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I have heard mostly good things about diatamaceous earth, except that the little shards might cause some harm to the tissues. It would be great to hear how you do. Anything that safely helps to reduce herxing is worth knowing.
Claire
***I keep reading more and more that there has to be a reason for certain microbes to be in our bodies and that if we take that 'reason' away, things will clear more quickly. Did your PT get the petroleum out?
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Jellybelly
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Brief explanation of what Diatomacious earth is:
quote:Organic Fresh Water Diatomaceous Earth (DE) Diatomaceous earth is soil containing the fossilized remains of diatoms--single-celled organisms that lived approximately at the beginning of the Jurassic Period. The fossilized phytoplanktons are encased in double-shelled hydrated silicon dioxide (the scientific name of silica). Silica can be applied as a very efficient flow agent in powdered mixtures. The ability of diatomaceous earth to draw ambient moisture towards it results in increased solubility and thus biological absorption of whatever is near it, such as nutrients.
Furthermore, the tiny diatoms possess razor-sharp edges and this gives them the added benefit of being inhospitable to harmful organisms in the bowel. The microscopic blades can scratch the organisms' exoskeletons and they can become dehydrated through loss of internal fluids. DE is not a chemical so intestinal invaders cannot develop an immunity to it, and they probably won't like being in an environment filled with sharp objects any more than you would.
Food-grade diatomaceous earth presents no danger of toxicity when ingested. Actually, negatively charged DE helps the body detoxify by absorbing positively charged metals, bacteria, pesticides, drugs, and other organic debris. Thereafter, the ``filled'' DE can be passed from the body normally along with its captured health-harmful residue. For these many reasons, organic fresh-water DE is included as a flow agent in Oxy-Powder� to support its role as the best colon cleanser available.
Jellybelly
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They are amazing little tubes, actually quite beautiful. They are negatively charged so they attract things that are ionicrially positively charged. Toxins are positively charged usually.
They are attached to the little tubes, and cared on out when the tubes are full. Heavy metals I think are positively charged too. That may mean goodbye heavy metals!!!
Diatomaceous earth or DE is also used in organic farming, both in controling pests inside of livestock and outside. Also used in organic agriculture.
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The website does refer you to a research site which has a disclaimer that if you have leaky gut, irritable bowel etc, not to use DE. I found the research site under testimonials on the site mentioned above.
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Jellybelly
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Hey Hiker, can you point that out specificly? I looked for it, but can't see it. I even did a google for it or something related to it and found nothing. Was it a part of someone's testimonial or research stuff?
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Jellybelly
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Claire, yes, my therapist is doing fine. She said it was amazing as the DE started clearing the poisons away. She could feel the recovery nearly instantly and now she says she feels fine, but she really thought she was dieing and tests said she was, but at the time docs had no idea what was happening.
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Be sure you check into the heavy metal, light metal and general mineral content of the product you are taking.
I am aware that some people are taking it, but I have always been somewhat careful. Diatomaceous Earth is very similar to Clay, which is also called Healing Earth in Germany, which has been around forever. Maybe in a time when our earth was not as laden with heavy metals, presticides, etc.
When I inquired into this several years ago, I was told by my doctor not to use any clay internally or externally early in the detox process. Dangers arise when the blood brain barrier is severely damaged and some of the aluminum/metal in clay finds its way into the brain. Clay is mostly aluminum salts. Am not sure about the content of the various DE's. Titanium may be inert, but it is a catalyst and I wouldn't want to take a bath in it nor drink it.
I never did take it repeatedly in any form, except for a facial or small aching spots on the body for pulling out some toxins which took no more than a few minutes to dry off and be washed off.
In other words, I would be very careful.
Take care.
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Jellybelly
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Glad you took a look Gigi. I would think that because DE is has a negative ionic charge and heavy metals have a positive ionic charge, the two attract. The positive particles are then carried away with the negative particles(DE). (The way I remeber which are the good ions, the "P" in positive also stands for the "P" in poison)
I would think that more poisonous positively charged metals are being carried away then left behind, IF the DE could leave any behind.
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i'm a little confused here.
are you saying to eat this stuff? use in the bath, or what?
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Jellybelly
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eat it.
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Hi everyone, First off, I'm not a dr nor have I had any medical training. Now that's out of the way-- I used D.E. for a lot of things, but ('doh!) I didn't think of it for ridding myself of toxins !! In my experience with it, you mix approx. 2(?) Tbsp. in a tall glass of water & drink. The one caution I have is to those who have issues with IBS/C., or just have a lot of trouble with const(sorry). It can create serious problems- my own experience - so be careful.
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quote:Originally posted by artraveler: Hi everyone, First off, I'm not a dr nor have I had any medical training. Now that's out of the way-- I used D.E. for a lot of things, but ('doh!) I didn't think of it for ridding myself of toxins !! In my experience with it, you mix approx. 2(?) Tbsp. in a tall glass of water & drink. The one caution I have is to those who have issues with IBS/C., or just have a lot of trouble with const(sorry). It can create serious problems- my own experience - so be careful.
What about chronic diarrhea?
And where is the best place to get this at?
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I've used a form of it in my swimming pool filter. Water is crystal clear. Posts: 2451 | From Lyme Central | Registered: Aug 2001
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Jellybelly
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DO NOT EAT the pool stuff!!!! It is treated differently and I believe it has very high amounts of silica, which is considered poison in that kind of dose.
The kind of Diatomaceous Earth I am talking about is food grade. Different composition. This is the kind used in agriculture, it is feed to animals and is considered safe for human consumption.
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Foggy
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quote:Originally posted by Jellybelly: DO NOT EAT the pool stuff!!!! It is treated differently and I believe it has very high amounts of silica, which is considered poison in that kind of dose.
The kind of Diatomaceous Earth I am talking about is food grade. Different composition. This is the kind used in agriculture, it is feed to animals and is considered safe for human consumption.
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Hi Jason, If you were to 'google' Diatomaceous Earth, you will get an over abundance of results . Just remember, a little goes a long way and you want food grade! BTW- just as general info, D.E. can be used as a 'dust' for any insect that is willing to crawl across it. Good for an all natural flea dust for pets also. It literally dehydrates them! This is why it must be taken with lots of water. It would probably do well for chronic diarrhea - just a thought, I'm NOT medically trained. I just have a lot of experience with the stuff!
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Jellybelly
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Starting this morning, I have taken no DE. I am running a little test to see if I am not herxing because of it, or for some other really odd reason. I don't know what that reason would be, considering that I have NEVER not herxed on Minocycline or Doxy. So we will see. I have also never taken the full dose either. Maybe I just sent the little buggers into hiding......hope not.
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Not sure I want to eat it w/ my stomach as sensitive as it is right now - but after checking it out I sure want to try it on my fire ants! Has anyone had any luck with it in that reguard?
I wondered if it would be safe for pets to walk on if used outside. Well, actually, I guess it might be a good thing for them to lick off their paws, now that I think about it
Jason - I think there was buying info on the link provided if u click around - I thought the prices were very reasonable.
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