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PS...Did you know that both George Bush (Sr) and his wife Barbara have Grave's disease?

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OMG...this is just too weird for me! I have always been healthy, dont smoke etc. I have herniated discs for a few years and have gone thru alot of cortizone epidurals to try to ease my pain.

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OMG...this is just too weird for me! I have always been healthy, dont smoke etc. I have herniated discs for a few years and have gone thru alot of cortizone epidurals to try to ease my pain. Otherwise I've been fine.

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OMG...this is just too weird for me! I have always been healthy, dont smoke etc. I have herniated discs for a few years and have gone thru alot of cortizone epidurals to try to ease my pain. Otherwise I've been fine.

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BIG problem if you have Lyme.

PS....Do you have a real LLMD??? 60 days of meds won't do much if you've had this a long time.

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I dont get the epidurals anymore. Last ones I had were in about January, and for 2 summers before.Could the epidurals have triggered either the lymes or the thyroid? Why do you say the epidurals are a big problem if I have lyme?
I plan to find a LLMD but also wish to educate my family dr as well so he can better help others.

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WARNING -- THIS IS LONG AND INVOLVED SO SKIP IT UNLESS THE QUESTION IS OF IMPORTANCE TO YOU. IF IT IS, THIS MAY BE OF HELP. IT IS UNLIKELY YOU'VE READ THIS ANYWHERE ELSE BEFORE.

SORRY, THERE IS NO WAY TO WRITE THIS IN SYNOPSIS FORM WITHOUT LEAVING OUT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

IF YOU CANNOT READ IT DUE TO "LYME BRAIN FOG" AND THIS SUBJECT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, WRITE ME AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE A TELEPHONE CALL WITH YOU.
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I PERSONALLY KNOW THE FRUSTRATION OF "LYME BRAIN FOG". WITH ME, IT COMES AND GOES BUT I KNOW IT CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING.

SO I DO NOT MIND CONVEYING THIS INFORMATION TO YOU VERBALLY IF YOU ARE CERTAIN LOW THYROID AND LOW BODY TEMPERATURE MAY BE A PROBLEM ADDING TO YOUR ILLNESS.

CAVEAT: I AM NOT A DOCTOR SO CONSULT A REAL DOCTOR BEFORE, OR IF, YOU DO ANYTHING BASED ON WHAT YOU READ HERE!

The Thyroid and Immune System Disorders

1 If the immune system is stressed for a long period of time such as fighting a difficult illness (such as Lyme or any EB-V illness), it gets ``tired'' and can ``forget'' how to convert T4 into T3. The thyroid and hypothalamus glands produce T4 BUT the body actually needs T3.


2. If T3 is reduced, a ``standard'' thyroid test may still show the thyroid is ``fine'' since many thyroid tests only test for T4. Medical science assumes the body always converts T4 into T3. Wrong!


3. A doctor (even a thyroid doctor who should know better) reads the ``everything is OK'' thyroid test and is puzzled as the patient usually has all the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism and mentally thinks ``I've heard this test is not always accurate so I'll put the patient on Synthroid.


Extra T4 can't hurt!'' Wrong! It CAN hurt. If T3 is low but T4 is normal, extra T4 can further suppress what little T3 exists. The patient feels even worse!


4. Not knowing what to do, the doctor often leaves the patient on Synthroid saying ``well, sometimes it takes time for the thyroid to adjust''. Five years later the doctor is still saying ``one more month''. Hopefully, the patient has found a knowledgeable doctor long before then.


5. What to do? Go to


www.wilsonssyndrome.com[/URL] to understand the illness. The hypothyroidism caused by low T3 causes the body's systemic pH to drop (the body becomes more and more acidic - meaning toxic).


The body's rate of metabolism slows down. Basically, the body adds ``bad stuff'' faster than it gets rid of it. It is a vicious cycle.


You can buy expensive pure T3 replacement and other supplements (see the Web site just mentioned) but few people need them. Most do just fine with the original old-time 19th century-type replacement for thyroid in the body - armour thyroid.


Armour thyroid (AT) is desiccated (dried) pig thyroid. It is about the safest prescription medicine there is as it is just dried ham! But all thyroid.


The only danger can be taking AT for too long and going into hyperthyroidism. Having an over-active thyroid can damage organs of the body. Watch for the signs of hyperthyroidism as your thyroid returns to normal.


6. Buy a box of pH Stix from Alkalive ($10 for a box of 80 on eBay). There are many brands but I prefer pH Stix as they do a two color test so it is extra accurate. Health food stores also sell pH sticks and tape. Buy a good quality GLASS thermometer. Walgreens sells one I like for $6.49 from Geratherm.


7. Measure your body pH and body temperature at the same time each day. One hour after dinner is recommended as best. Keep track.


If your body temperature averages 98.6 and your pH is in the normal range of 6.5 to 7.5 then stop reading except for general interest. You probably do not have a thyroid or metabolism problem.


At least such that it is reducing your body's ability to make maximum usage of medications. BUT, if you have suffered from any Immune System Disorder (ISD) for a period time, your body has probably begun to, or has mostly, forgotten how to convert T4 into T3.


Your body temperature is low, your body pH is low, your body is full of toxins and your metabolism is sluggish. You only know your metabolism is sluggish by ``feeling sluggish''.


8. Take the several weeks of your recorded body temperature and body pH to a GOOD doctor and tell him/her you need a prescription for AT. I took a full dosage which was 120 mg 2x a day for several months to reach 98.6.


Who is a ``good'' doctor? One who understands this or at least ``humors'' you with a prescription for AT to get you to go home. After your health is 100% better in a few months, they will be asking YOU questions and will be putting all their chronic ``I feel terrible'' patients on AT and will take body temperature of all their patients EVERY visit and body pH every few months.


Mine ``cured'' two dozen of his other patients who were as bad off as being bed-ridden! They have no idea his ``miracle drug'' is NOT new and the knowledge came from another patient.


They are just joyful to have their health back! By the way, ``blood pH'' is always 7.4. I


f 6 or 8, the person is dead. Some doctors ONLY know blood pH. A few will actually argue body pH ``does not exist!'' Or is not important. Ask such doctors ``what is the pH of the liquid in the body?'' All liquids have a pH reading.


The body is mostly water as you know. You want your body to be slightly alkaline (i.e., 7.2 but 6.5 is almost as healthy - a toxic 5.2 is 1,000 times as acidic - pH is a logarithmic scale - 7.0 is neutral).


9. Begin to take armour thyroid (AT). Keep measuring your body temperature and pH. Check your pH via saliva or urine. Doesn't matter which EXCEPT, do NOT test urine in the morning as the body is clearing itself of toxins built-up overnight.


Do NOT eat or drink for an hour before a saliva test for obvious reasons. My pH had become so acidic (toxic) everything tasted bitter (acidic) and my saliva was yellowish!


I dropped to 4.7 at the worst. A cadaver measures 3.5. My body temperature dropped as low as 93 degrees.


My metabolism was so sluggish ``nothing'' worked. Bowel movements were weekly at best. My body was a ``toxic waste dump site!'' Putting one foot in front of the other was a challenge. I mostly just sat all day, every day working up energy to go to another room every so often.


10. Within two weeks, my average body temperature passed 98.0. My pH passed 6.0 and I began to feel good again. I was detoxing naturally. You do not need all the many expensive detox pills, herbs, minerals and gadgets you see advertised ("detox TODAY for $99!").


A box of pH Stix, a few months of AT tablets and a good thermometer. That's it! Oh, and drink lots of water and juices to speed up detoxing. Surprisingly, I found I could eat and drink most anything. Cokes, acidic foods and so forth. But it does help to eat and drink healthy. And give up smoking. Smoking drops pH an average of half a point.


11. Think 98.2 degrees is OK? NO! Every half degree drops your metabolism by five to ten times. Be at 97 degrees and your metabolism is like 80-weight oil, your body fills with toxins over time and your pH is toxic somewhere below six (``normal'' is 6.5 to 7.5'').


12. Do NOT let a doctor tell you ``Synthroid is better so we'll use it instead'' or ``oh, body temperature varies from one person to another. That's normal.''


If they know nothing about body pH, that's OK - you just want the prescription for AT. As I wrote, taking Synthroid if your T4 is OK but your T3 is low can make things WORSE!


If they tell you ``average body temperature varies from one person to another'', ask if those with low body temps tend to be the chronic ``I feel awful, drag all day but don't know why'' patients.


If they take the time to check that out (as my doctor did), he/she will say ``hmm, 100% are! Wonder what that means?''


13. You may end up being a favorite patient of your doctor by helping him/her ``cure'' dozens of other chronic ``I feel awful'' patients. But you mostly just want to feel better yourself! But it's still a nice feeling knowing you helped many others your doctor had given up on!


14. After your temperature has returned to 98.6 and stays there for a few weeks, taper off of the AT. Keep checking body temperature and body pH periodically THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. Most people who HAD Wilson's Syndrome have their bodies ``remember'' how to convert T4 into T3 and AT is no longer needed.


In fact, you do not want to continue taking AT as you'll change to hyperthyroidism (too much thyroid chemical). Hyperthyroidism is dangerous!


15. By now, your energy is back, your body temperature averages around 98.6 (it does vary by about half a degree during the day but it's the average you care about), your body pH is in the normal range (6.5 to 7.5), you ``feel'' like your metabolism is back up and your body is detoxing. Foods taste normal again!


No more metallic taste? That's from heavy metal poisoning that is one of many minor ISD's that almost always appear with excess toxicity and low body pH. Taking pharmaceutical grade cilantro (over the counter at any pharmacy in the herbal medicine section) will rid your body of built-up heavy metals faster.

Cilantro attracts heavy metal almost like a magnet. Your body expels the cilantro with the metals attached.


16. Why haven't you heard or read of this important connection between thyroid problems and all types of immune system disorders? Got me! Other than few have put the pieces of the puzzle together or have made it more difficult than it is for reasons unknown. Why was the world thought to be flat for thousands of years! This is NOT rocket science!


And there is NO money to be made in this simple path to getting your body temperature, body pH, metabolism and natural detoxing back on track. It all cost me $30, or so, (plus doctor visits and about $100,000 of useless hospital stays and bum steers by doctors doing their best to cure me but with no knowledge of what turned out to be soooo simple!).

Now, if someone can just figure out a similarly simple cure for Lyme!


17. I hope this has been of help but if I missed anything, feel free to e-mail me at [email protected].


But please Google all these terms first and read about Wilson's Syndrome rather than have me answer questions that are already on the Internet.


I enjoy chatting with others (I learn too!) but I receive way too many e-mails from people asking questions that putting the question into Google would have provided tons of excellent and correct information.


Personally, I am STILL battling Lyme (I'm currently on IV Ceftin with a PICC line to my heart) but the dozen other EB-V illnesses I HAD with NO medication or treatment doing ANYTHING to help before this, ``magically'' disappeared within 90 days!


Medications or anything digestible in your body can't react, metabolize, digest, etc. if your body is a ``toxic waste dump'' and is sluggish ``stuck with the parking brake on'' (low metabolism).


All my meds for EB-V's and other illnesses began to clear up just like they were SUPPOSED to do (but had been doing nothing).


My energy level is now close to what it once was and my health is restored (except for the darn Lyme that took ten years to diagnose, have Lyme for too long and it may be with you forever - personal observation).


Other subjects I learned about the hard, laborious way? Why a low pH can cause body pain, jawbone infections, diagnosis and treatment, quack medications and gadgets, bacteria that thrives without oxygen and causes no swelling and instant lock-on of moving objects using radar (my name is on a key patent that gives us all speeding tickets - I REALLY regret that invention - sorry! -


I was an electrical engineer for 40 years before my journey into the madness we call our health care system). Feel free to e-mail me for information - except for how to beat a speeding ticket (I have no clue). [email protected]

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