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cordor
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Was wondering if anyone else has had bone issues along with Lyme. I am not quite 50 yrs old (will be in 3 more months) and just got the results of my first bone density test. In my neck and part of my spine, I have the bone density results of a woman OVER 70 YEARS OLD.

These written results were given to me by the nurse. Still waiting for doc to get back to me.

Also, he ordered a whole Body Bone Scan (with radioactive injection) because a strange spot showed up on my upper arm bone when they did a chest x-ray about 2 months ago. The bone scan report says this: "Asymmetrical increased uptake invoving the right humeral neck"

Does anyone know what all this means?

Cori [confused]

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bumping for others
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someone....anyone????????

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I tried to see if I could find any specific info. I came up with nothing. Then I tried to educate myself on radiology. I'm sorry sweetie but it seems way to complicated [dizzy] for me to even guess.

Maybe change the subject line to add HELP please on the end so others know you're looking for info & not just sharing results or something?

Just a thought.

Hope someone else can help you out. [group hug]

[confused]
Ali

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You have osteoporosis. That's what the bone density of a woman over 70 means but I don't know why any Dr. would give that as a reading. It's reported in numbers. Mine came back -2.5 of both femoral necks(hips). There is treatment for osteoporosis.
I think the increased uptake is where some of the nuclear medication concentrated and may be called a hot spot. It's your right shoulder(humeral neck) and could be infection, arthritis, fracture. They may need to do more studies. Have you been having pain with your right shoulder? Sorry I can't be more help. Liz

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I don't know if this is helpful, but I had wanted to research this for myself recently...

Tutorial for Reading DEXA Reports


What Is a Bone Density Test?
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A bone density test uses special X-rays to measure how many grams of calcium and other bone minerals -- collectively known as bone mineral content -- are packed into a segment of bone. The higher your mineral content, the denser your bones are. And the denser your bones, the stronger they are and the less likely they are to break. Doctors use a bone density test to determine if you have, or are at risk of, osteoporosis.[1]
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A bone mineral density (BMD) test is the best way to determine your bone health. BMD tests can identify osteoporosis, determine your risk for fractures (broken bones), and measure your response to osteoporosis treatment. The most widely recognized bone mineral density test is called a dual-energy x-ray absorptiometry or DXA test. It is painless - a bit like having an x ray. It can measure bone density at your hip and spine.

What Does the Test Do?
A DXA test measures your bone mineral density and compares it to that of an established norm or standard in order to give you a score. Although no bone density test is 100 percent accurate, it is the single most important predictor of whether a person will have a fracture in the future.

T-score
Most commonly, your DXA test results are compared to the ideal or peak bone mineral density of a healthy 30-year-old adult, and you are given a T-score. A score of 0 means your BMD is equal to the norm for a healthy young adult. Differences between your BMD and that of the healthy young adult norm are measured in units called standard deviations (SDs). The more standard deviations below 0, indicated as negative numbers, the lower your BMD and the higher your risk of fracture.

... A T-score between +1 and -1 is considered normal or healthy. A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates that you have low bone mass, although not low enough to be diagnosed with osteoporosis. A T-score of -2.5 or lower indicates that you have osteoporosis. The greater the negative number, the more severe the osteoporosis.

Z-score
Sometimes, your bone mineral density is compared to that of a typical individual whose age is matched to yours. This comparison gives you a Z-score. Because low BMD is common among older adults, comparisons with the BMD of a typical individual whose age is matched to yours can be misleading. Therefore, the diagnosis of osteoporosis or low bone mass is based on your T-score. However, a Z-score can be useful for determining whether there may be an underlying disease or condition that is causing bone loss.

Low Bone Mass Versus Osteoporosis
The information provided by a BMD test can help your doctor decide which prevention or treatment options are right for you. If you have low bone mass that is not low enough to be diagnosed as osteoporosis, this is sometimes referred to as osteopenia. Low bone mass could be caused by many factors such as:
* heredity
* the development of less-than-optimal peak bone mass in your youth
* a medical condition or medication to treat such a condition that negatively affects bone
* abnormally accelerated bone loss.

While not everyone who has low bone mass will develop osteoporosis, everyone with low bone mass is at higher risk for the disease and the resulting fractures.[2]

Notes on DEXA Scores
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The reproducibility of DEXA scores is frequently reported at 1-2 percent. That 1-2 percent is the average, but the range of reproducibility can vary as much as 7 percent. Variations come from changes in machine reading (using the same machine), technologists who are doing the test, and slight changes and body positioning, all of which can affect the end results. The most frequent source of error in repeat tests is patient positioning. The technology is limited because BMD is a two-dimensional image of a three-dimensional object.[3]
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It is important for patients to get repeat BMD measurements done on the same machine each time, or at least a machine from the same manufacturer. Error between machines, or trying to convert measurements from one manufacturer's standard to another can introduce errors large enough to wipe out the sensitivity of the measurements.[4]
Ultrasound for Bone Mass
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Newer techniques such as ultrasound appear to offer a more cost-effective method of screening bone mass. Ultrasound measurements are usually performed at the calcaneous and it is not possible to measure sites of osteoporotic fracture such as the hip or spine. Adding an ultrasound measurement to a DEXA does not improve the prediction of fractures. Although some have said that ultrasound measures the "quality" of bone, more careful studies suggest that it mainly measures the bone mass.[5]
What is a bone scan?
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Your doctor may order a bone scan to help diagnose subtle or hidden bone fractures that may not show up on a routine X-ray, such as a stress fracture. Bone scans can also help detect:
* Bone cancer
* Bone infections
* Arthritis
* Causes of unexplained bone pain

A bone scan falls under the category of nuclear medicine, which means that it uses tiny amounts of radioactive materials called tracers (radionuclides). These tracers accumulate in certain organs and tissues, such as bones. Once introduced into the body, tracers emit gamma waves of radiation, which are detected by a special camera. This camera produces images that are interpreted by radiologists or nuclear medicine specialists.[6]

Sources:
1. Bone density test: Measure your risk of osteoporosis
2. Bone Mass Measurement: What the Numbers Mean
3. What does my done density test mean?
4. Dual energy X-ray absorptiometry
5. Bone Density
6. Bone scan: Using nuclear medicine to find bone abnormalities

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Thank you all for responding. My score was -2.9 on bone density. Like I said, I am just barely 50 years old....but did have total hysterectomy when I was in my 30's, and have been on estrogen ever since. The reason I have stayed on the estrace was because my gyno said it would "protect my bones". Guess not.

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yes, i know what you mean!

my 1st bone density was my worst experience; i ended up with OSTEOPENIA.


had it done again after my hip replacement surgery 3-07 since the surgeon said he nicked a bone putting new stuff in. "you've got SOFT BONES OF A WOMAN 20 YRS. OLDER THAN WHAT I AM"!

i'm 58; bone are about 80 yrs. old!


2nd one still OSTEOPENIA but my neck is almost osteoporosis. lower back numbers were better; md never saw anything like that before.

best wishes! [group hug]

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This is one of the things that has made the Marshall Protocol seem so attractive to me! If your 1,25 D test is above 25, you're actively demineralizing your bones, according to the data at the Marshall Protocol site.

Getting mine below 25 has become a priority for me, even without doing the Marshall Protocol in full.

Also, I've seen recent data on strontium (not strontium 90, which is radioactive and causes cancer) having a higher uptake level than calcium and making stronger bones than calcium.

I'm about to start supplementing with that, as my chiro, who took major X-rays of my back and legs, told me my X-rays looked like I was headed for osteoporosis.

Best,

Cass A

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oh boy, I think I am in trouble. My vit D 1,25 dihydroxy is 65.5 (flagged high by labcorp) and my vit D 25 hydroxy is 9.9 (flagged low)

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Why do doctor's think estrogen will protect your bones? Looks like they were wrong in your case!

Seems like there is more going on hormonally than just adding in a little estrogen! I think Lyme keeps the hormones from working right in our bodies and they have to work right for us to put the minerals in our bones. But I'm not feeling mentally with it enough to be looking some of this up today.

Cordor, I think you need to consider the bone issues a serious enough problem that you do more research on your own. Especially looking at nutrition and hormones. Boron comes to mind. Natural progesterone. And of course, treating the Lyme.

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