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randibear
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some days i think i am not going to make it!! my lower back is out again. i call it "going out".

it crunches and grinds and i can barely move. i can feel all the muscles in my hips moving and bending over, getting out of bed, heck, even sitting on the toliet is painful.

i've had x-rays and have bulging discs throughout the lower back.

also the weakness in my legs seems to be getting worse. oh, some days are ok, but then there are other where i think "oh, oh, wheelchair here i come".

but can lyme cause this?

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Paula Carnes
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My husband's primary symptom of Lyme was severe back pain. He took Zithromax for about a year at 500 mg a day and now is fine. He does have to continue Zithromax for weeks to months at 250 mg a day from time to time, but remains stable.

I must add that Zithromax may not work for you. Apparently he and I are infected with something(s) that responds to this particular antibiotic. I tend to think that a lot of us respond to low dose minocycline and Zithromax based on studies done by Dr. Trevor Marshall. I am not promoting his protocol, but the antibiotics he uses do seem to be effective and will work at low dose - 100 mg mino twice a week, 250 Zithromax once or twice a week. You can read many more details at his website.

Paula Carnes

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My lower back pain started at the same time I "crashed" with all sorts of other symptoms in 2004. It shifted from lower left to lower right over time. I do have a herniated disc, but put off surgery because everyone said that it was not so severe to be causing that kind of pain.

After many months of abx, and acupuncture, and massage and osteopathic and chiropractic treatments, and all sorts of other alternative treatments, it was the malarone i started taking for babs that diminished the pain.

I am on malarone now for 8 weeks. The pain/ache is much better but does flare - I was fine all weekend, but woke up this morning with the pain. It'll go away but who knows when it will be back? I think it's the malarone for babs that has given me the most relief.

Have you been treated for co-infections?

DanP

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CaliforniaLyme
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There's an abstract about Lyme presenting with JUST lower back pain!!! AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1: Presse Med. 2007 Jan;36(1 Pt 1):61-3. 2006

Back pain without radiculitis as an initial manifestation of Lyme disease: two cases

Chanier S, Lauxerois M, Rieu V.
Service de M�decine, Centre Hospitalier, Thiers. [email protected]

INTRODUCTION: The most frequent neurological expression of Lyme disease (borreliosis) during its secondary phase is meningoradiculitis, but atypical presentations occur. Lyme disease must be considered especially in endemic areas and during the summer (May-October).


CASES: We report cases of two patients with unusual clinical presentations of neuroborreliosis. Both had acute inflammatory back pain, resistant to the usual analgesic treatment.

Both patients responded negatively to questions about tick bites and erythema migrans. Laboratory tests revealed an inflammatory process in only one patient.

Lyme disease was confirmed by lymphocytic meningitis and serological tests positive for Borrelia in blood (both cases) and cerebrospinal fluid (one case). Antibiotic treatment led to the disappearance of pain and the normalization of laboratory tests.


DISCUSSION: Inflammatory back pain, even without radiculitis, may be related to Lyme disease in endemic areas.

PMID: 17261450

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Yep...every day [Frown] It's especially painful in the morning, when I first get out of bed.

Pardon my directness, but most mornings it is so bad that I have all I can do to wipe properly or even wash certain areas properly.

The back pain was also one of my first symptoms before "crashing", as it was so appropriately put...

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after many years of treating lyme i was dx with severe facet arthritis in the lower spine.

IF i walk at least 20 minutes a day-it doesn't matter how slow as long as i hold my abs in...THEN the next day i do not have pain.

if i don't get the walk in , i pay. also there are some stretching exercises-esp hamstrings...that really help-do them before you get out of bed

i've had lots of PT for many lyme pains...none has worked except for lower back

in general...keeping your abs in shape helps lower back pain. i should add...i'm really overweight and unfit...but it makes a huge difference for me...and it motivates me to move cuz i don't want back surgery.

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Sorry about your back pain. I developed lower back pain months before being tested positive for Lyme. It was bad in the mornings, had problems getting out of bed.

I started treatment for Lyme 4-07. out of nowhere six weeks ago I could not move. I also have two bulging disc. Told I had Sciatica nerve problem. Theraphy has helped. Lower back still has pain and lower leg and foot ache and burn.

I am not sure, but believe Lyme has caused these problems. Will see LLMD this week.

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Lumbar and cervical spine problems had me in and out of physical therapy for years prior to knowing I had Lyme. My back and neck were very painful and had me on a number of medications, the MRIs showed progressively worse damage over the years it took to find out what was going on. With Lyme treatment, physical therapy, and pilates my pain has gotten better. I am functioning and off pain meds but I still have days where the pain keeps me from doing what I would like.

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Hi Randi,

I get lower back pain too, but it seems in me to be related to my kidneys. When I'm herxing or detoxing or toxic, that's when the lower back pain starts and stays until I get a little less toxic.

[Smile]

Alison

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