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Health Marvels sells great ones made by Kenriko in Japan. I think they are fabulous. They really reduce my herxes and have helped immensely. I buy mine through a link at Betterhealthguy.com but I'm sure if you Google Kenriko you would find their site too. I don't go a night without them, especially when I'm on antibiotics.
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I have a friend who is having horrible skin symptoms with her LD infections. She is placing the health marvels pads on the worst areas and they are clearing up. Nothing else she has tried has helped as much. (Well, the Cream of Coco soap did clear some of the facial issues, but she used the soap 6-8x per day to get that result.)
I like the idea of raising the body temp to help move the toxins out too. Thanks for your comments w0tm!
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My daughter loves her infrared sauna, though.
Been wanting to get her on Armour thyroid for a long time, doc won't have it.
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I have read in two different sources that these detox foot pads are a total scam as well. I wouldn't waste a penny on them.
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We have a detox foot bath and we like it. It helped bring my teen daughter's extreme reactivity to normal levels (for a normal teenager ). I don't believe this is a warm water effect only. Our skin and hair soften, and complexions seem clearer. On days when I am feeling particularly miserable, the particles/color in the water is more dense.
It is true that the water will change colors without feet inside, but much less so.
Sorry... I can't explain scientifically what is going on and I don't have an engineering degree. All I have is my experience to draw from. But experience can sometimes be a powerful enough influence for me.
Armour thyroid certainly sounds interesting and worth looking into as well. There are probably many good products and tools out there for us, and perhaps more on the horizon.
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My LLMD recommended the foot pads. I avoided them for many months but when the herxing got to be severe I followed as many of his recommendations as I could and I feel that they do help. For $20 you can have the pads tested to determine what is coming out of your body. The info is on Scott's site. http://betterhealthguy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=61
My experience is that I often wake up during the night with leg pain. The pads help this a lot although they don't take all the pain away. I've had spider bites on my legs that have been greatly relieved by the pads so I know they work to some degree.
I use health marvels from Betterhealthguy.com
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quote:Originally posted by w0tm: If you think something helps -- give it a go. HOWEVER -- I hate to throw cold water on these detox foot pads but read my reviews on ebay.
Wanted to chime in that my experiences and opinions agree with all of what w0tm said.
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Not to keep things off topic but, my body temp has been low since lyme. I was seeing a holistic doc who put me on armour for a while to treat wilsons syndrome. My question is if my metabolism was slowed way down why have I been continually losing weight and the ability to gain weight?
Just unsure of how this stuff works, I do believe in wilsons syndrome..
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If it is true that these are useless than please explain the following:
When I first started using them they were a dark brown mudlike filled disaster. Now about 2 months later they are more brown or tan (not dark and portions stay white. From a reflexology standpoint I was told this was due to certain areas becoming detoxed and the remaining portions continuing to require cleaning.
Someone I spoke to told me that when they started theirs were brown/black mudlike and about 6 months into using them the pads are only slightly tan.
It would seem to me (us) that have to have removed something. Especially considering the gradually change over time from mudlike/dark to lighter and lower consistency.
On a side note the pads removed ALL of the calluses on my feet with the first three weeks of use, which was an added benefit in my opinion.
So please "explain" how this can be scientifically if they are doing nothing?
Since I am seriously confused I would really appreciate any advice on this as well as anyone elses experience using them, since I dont want to waste money if they are really just some trick.
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NEW INFO. I POSTED YESTERDAY LOOKING FOR OPINIONS ABOUT DETOX FOOT PADS. READ THE INFO I GOT WHEN I BOUGHT SOME TONIGHT!
Thanks to everyone who responded. After reading everyone's info I decided to stop at the local health food store and buy some foot pads.
I won't tell you how much I paid, but I thought I would have to take out a loan application. The owner told me they are special foot pads that are very strong.
He warned me never to use them more than 7 days straight and to only use them once a month or the detox could be so strong it could cause heart damage!
After seeing that they might not work at all, to be told they could cause heart damage was a shocker. Has anyone else heard of anything like this? Should I even use them?
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improver - I dropped to 88 lbs and struggled to stay there even eating 6 meals a day, and I'd always had trouble gaining.
Two words: food allergies.
And don't go by the blood tests either. I only had a blood-proven allergy to eggs, but you should see how few foods I have been able to eat to maintain weight GAIN.
Mino put weight on me, too, though I fear this is because it may have blown my thyroid.
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Footpads and the like are about as ancient as I am and have been used for centuries --- things seem to survive when they are doing good. So here is what my doctor told me about the footpads years ago - there are some that are good and there are some that are cheaper and not as good. This is one time when you get what you pay for. I have been using footpads for many years and continue to use them even now that I am well - as a regular detox support.
For you with Lyme - Unless you get rid of the toxins, getting rid of Lyme is absolutely impossible. I am 100% certain of that. If you keep the toxins, you keep Lyme and the breeding place for the bugs. People who live in denial about their toxicity levels will have a difficult time ever getting out from under. It's the accumulation of toxins from before Lyme and during Lyme that kills. The toxic body terrain was in place most likely long before Lyme. A toxic body is already under stress and it turns into a tough battle unless we go into a severe cleanup mode. Adding pharmaceuticals doesn't help.
The body in overload will eventually succumb to toxin takeover.
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Medicinal dressings and salves to draw out toxins and even tumors have been used for centuries in Medicine.
A recent example is the castor oil pack on the liver area - a prescription first introduced by the medical trance medium Edgar Cayce which has been used by medical practitioners for almost a century.
In Europe, cantharis pads are used to irritate and break the skin and draw toxins from the lymphatic system.
In the 60s a Japanese healer introduced the idea to draw toxins from the soles of the feet using bamboo extract which had been fermented for many years. This method was used successfully to heal many cases of lymphoma and other formerly intractable illnesses.
Over the years new ideas and theories led to the development of the Kinokatara pad, which uses a number of potent but very different ingredients (one of which is ground up gemstones).
The medicinal effect of the pads can be divided into 3 categories:
1. the energetic effect: the pads influence the underlying tissues by resonating healing frequencies into the area. This effect is purely based on physics and can be explained by the effect of electromagnetic fields, vector force fields and biophoton fields (research by Dr. Fritz Alfred Popp). In this application the pad may stay dry, harden a little bit, but may not change color or produce any other visible change. However, the clinical effect on the client's symptom may be profound.
2. the medicinal effect : people have been wearing copper bracelets for the treatment of arthritis. It has been found lately, that in these patients the copper levels in the tissues and blood really increase significantly. Copper is a potent antimicrobial agent. Similarly, the pads give off microscopic amounts of their respective healing ingredients to the underlying tissues. The pads can therefore be used to introduce healing agents gently into a selective area of the body. The skin acts as an active membrane: it absorbs only those substances and quantities, which are needed in that moment. It is difficult, to disturb a healthy environment with the application of a pad. It is easy, to introduce healing medication in a controlled way.
3. Absorption of biotoxins, xenobiotics and heavy metals: it has been demonstrated in laboratory tests that after an 8 hour application of the pads to the soles of the feet the pad may be enriched with heavy metals, especially lead, arsenic, cadmium and mercury. The agents in the pad act as an ion exchange resin which draws from the blood toxins which have an affinity to the substances in the pad greater than the affmity which they have to the toxin binding substances in the blood (such as the porphyrin-ring of hemoglobin). The pad draws toxins from the lymphatics, veins and small arteries in the skin and also directly from the matrix of the surrounding tissues.
These three principles determine the application and use of the pads:
1. To use the pads in energy healing, the healer should master one of the bioenergetic diagnostic techniques such as autonomic response testing (ART - a form of kinesiology), electrodermal testing or Kirlian photography. In ART testing the practitioner can determine non-invasively, which tissues are stressed by toxins, infections or other types of illness. This may also apply to acupuncture points, chakras or autonomic ganglia. The pad is placed exactly over the area which is testing.
Another application is simply the placement of the pad over symptomatic areas such as an aching tooth or jaw joint, an inflamed thyroid or spinal joint or a compromised kidney. We have seen spectaclular improvements in the following:
Tooth and TMJ problems Cysts in the breast As an adjunct in tumor therapy (especially if the lymphatic system is involved) Headache and all other localized pain conditions Spinal problems Chronic kidney, stomach and gallbladder problems Immune thyroiditis
I am sure that there are many other possible applications. If the energetic effect is desired, the pad may only be applied one or two times to achieve the desired change and restoration of energetic health in the area.
2. Detoxification. Here the pads should be placed over areas, where the body naturally eliminates toxins through the skin. These are the areas where we sweat most strongly: the soles of the feet, the axilla, the groin, the sacral area, the front of the neck. Here the lymphatics are closest to the skin and able to exchange toxins to the surface of the skin. The lymph system is an active intelligent system, not a passive system of connected pipes as some may imagine it. The toxins regularly found in the used pads are Cadmium and lead. The dramatic effect on mercurv detoxification has been missed so far for a simple reason: metallic mercury at room temperature evaporates and forms a gas which is invisible, odorless and tasteless. When the pad is sent to a lab without knowing this, the mercury is long evaporated before the pad gets to the lab. However, if the pad is sealed in a metal container and a mercury vapor detector is used, often high levels of mercury escape the pad which has been worn for 8 hours or more. As soon as the transport problem is solved, a regular lab will be able to demonstrate the presence of mercury after using the pad.
Another way of demonstrating the presence of specific toxins is the use of ART: the direct resonance phenomenon allows to scan the used pad for the presence of otherwise hard to detect neurotoxins and xenobiotics. We found a profound effect on the elimination of Lyme neurotoxins, Babesia, PBDEs (flame retardants) and other man made chemicals. We use the pad as an adjunct in detoxification with the following indication:
Chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia Adjunct in the treatment of Lyme disease and co-infections Anti-aging medicine Heavy metal detoxification
I recommend to stick the pads on the feet so they work like an arch support. I prefer to use the pads during the day for 8-10 hours when the lymph system and the blood circulation is most active. The flow in the lymphatic system is dependent on the movement and contraction of the muscles.
In ART testing we found that a rhythm of 3 weeks on, 2-6 weeks off is most effective. Dependent on the condition of the patient I may recommend 1-3 cycles. If the patient has no improvement after completion of the first cycle (which is rare) other methods of treatment are asked for. I always use the pad in association with other detoxification methods, such as oral DMSA or cilantro.
We found that the pad decreases the amount of toxic metals eliminated over the kidney, which is highly desirable. The kidneys often get damaged during the process of toxin elimination. The pad draws the toxins via the skin out of the body sparing the kidneys. One could say, the pad becomes a third "throw-away" kidney.
3. Using the pad as medication:
There are 2 ways to establish the need for the pad. As a homeopathic doctor I would study the proovings of the individual ingredients of the pad.
The principles of homeopathy have been established by giving a particular agent in small doses to a volunteer for a few weeks and study the changes in the persons body and mind. Later, when a patient comes with these exact symptoms, the practitioner gives a homeopathic dilution of this same substance to the patient and often witnesses improvement in the patients condition. Establishing the proovings for the ingredients of the pad would give a clear indication as to when to use the pad.
However, as an ART practitioner I use the yin-state testing in ART. The pad is placed on a signal enhancer (proprietary instrumentation in ART) and the patient is evaluated with ART and HRV (heart rate variability) to see, if a parasympathetic healing state (yin state) is triggered by the presence of the pad in the field of the client. If the answer is yes, it predicts that the client will improve by using the pad. Again, yin state testing can now be used to establish, where on the body the pad should be placed.
Side effects:
The only side effect I have observed so far is the occasional irritation of the skin. In some cases this was a true allergy to the glue in the dressing material. In this case the pad cannot be applied with the tape provided and I switch to a non-allergic medical tape. I have also seen the eruption of chronic underlying fungal infections at the sole of the foot. I have published a paper on the relationship between heavy metals and fungi: fungi store metals in their cell wall and help the body to keep the toxins in a biologically contained form.
As we remove the metals from the fungi with the pad, the immune system starts to attack the fungi in the skin and there will be inflammation, skin eruptions and discomfort. In this case I use a medical, antifungal cream, evaluate the client's diet and change it. After the situation is resolved, it is safe to return to the use of the pad."
This happens to refer to certain footpads. I didn't use these, but other good brands instead. I hope this helps in your decisionmaking.
Take care.
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This happens to refer to certain footpads. I didn't use these, but other good brands instead.
What brand is being referred to in the paper (which is really interesting)?
What brand are you using?
I used the original podi patch a long time ago, but stopped when the tape ripped off the top layer of skin during removal. But I will say that when I first put it on, I could feel energetic effects on the lower half of the body and field. It contains tourmaline, which is pizoelectric.
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Love your posts! Quick question for you can you list your top DETOX choices if one really is serious about Detoxing?
I just found out that I'm really toxic and had no idea I was! So now I'm on a mission to clean up and am wondering which way to go. I know you have done a lot in this area and are the perfect person to ask (:
Thanks for your help.
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