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Anyone know if lichen planus is associated with lyme? It's inflammation in the mouth. My mother was diagnosed yesterday (she has lyme). The doc told her it was an immune problem and could be brought on by stress.
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An immune problem? First I've heard of that. I had lichen planus many, many years ago, all over my body. It is a skin disease. To eradicate it, I had to use a cortisone cream nightly and wrap myself up in Saran Wrap to hold in the moisture. Took many weeks to get rid of. And boy, did it itch.
Medical Dictionary One entry found for lichen planus.
Main Entry: lichen pla�nus Pronunciation: -pl-ns Function: noun : a skin disease characterized by an eruption of wide flat papules covered by a horny glazed film, marked by intense itching, and often accompanied by lesions on the oral mucosa
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I would like to know the answer to that as well. My dentist told me last month I had lichen planos in my mouth. Boy is it painful and annoying. I have symptoms of lymes but don't have a firm diagnosis. Had brain mri and showed white matter that is consistant with ms. Right now besides the lichen planos, I have tingling, crawly, pins and needles feeling all up my legs, arms and hands. My western blot came back negative. In May I had what I thought was a mosquito bite that went into a large rash and looked like a circle. The rash didn't go away for several weeks. I've just started reading on here hoping to educate myself so I can have control over my health. Thank you all for your wisdom. Any comments?
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Subject: lichen sclerosus et atrophicus / balanitis xerotica obliterans
source: Neuroborreliosis in morphea and lichen sclerosis et atrophicus authors: Aberer, MD. et al. Journal of the American Academy of Dermatolog; Volume 19--Number 5, Part 1 1988--pg. 820-825 "...Although there is no general agreement about the spirochetal origin of morphea and lichen sclerosus et atrophicus, the isolation of Borrelia organisms from one patient with morphea and the detection of spirochetes on histologic sections gives strong evidence that Borrelia can cause morphea and lichen sclerosis et atrophicus. We found significant antibodies to B. burgdorferi in 50% of patients with morphea and 45% of patients with lichen sclerosis et atrophicus. Of 179 dermatologic patients with various diagnoses, 11% displayed antibody titers ; 22% of Austrian recruits exposed to tick bites showed specific antibodies. Since 1949 morphea had been treated with penicillin which has resulted in frequent improvement of the course of the disease. ...High-dose penicillin therapy was administered to three patients and the progression of disease activity was stopped. At 1-year follow-up they remained free of recurrences. "Eight of nine patients with morphea and two with lichen sclerosus et atrophicus presented neurologic symptoms indicating that these diseases are not only cutaneous but systemic diseases. The neurologic changes in morphea and lichen sclerosus et atrophicus correlate with the findings of stage II neuroborreliosis similar to those in acrodermatitis chronica atrophicans. This fact should encourage high-dose antibiotic therapy in both dermatoses, which was also proposed by Tuffanelli. The possibility of regeneration of the subepidermal nerve network after penicillin treatment also supports the need for antibiotic therapy. "Our findings indicate involvement of the central and/or the peripheral nervous system in patients with morphea and lichen sclerosus et atrophicus. Because of the possible Borrelia origin of both diseases, the neurologic symptoms should be regarded as central or peripheral neuroborreliosis. Thus optimal antibiotic therapy should be tried in all types of morphea and lichen sclerosus et atrophicus."
Chris
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Chris, Thank you for posting that info. I don't mean to sound stupid, my brain is only focusing on my tingling right now. Can you put this is more simple terms for me Please. Linda
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Sorry, really dizzy and tired today. I just cut and pasted it. I think it is saying that 40 or 50% of people that had litchen sclerosis had borrellia. Anyway, looks like there is a connection. Someone else might elaborate.
Best Wishes Chris
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My dentist also thought that I possibly had lichen planus. Though it did not look like what the descriptions on line described. There was never any definite decision as to what it was, but it seems that it disappeared gradually after I started Theralac,
There may not have been any connection to starting the Theralac, but now it seems to be gone. My mouth had become very painful however, before Theralac, so when I realized it was gone, I credited Theralac.
Best wishes.
Ann
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