Aniek
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What are the differences between DMSA and transdermal DMPS, and is one better for heavy metal testing?
I have on doctor telling me DMSA is more sensitive, and another telling me DMPS is more sensitive.
Also, as I understand it, both should be challenge tests, correct? Meaning, I should do a clean urine test and then take the medication, and do the test again.
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I am going to take another heavy metal test using DMSA. Dr. H recommends this drug for testing.
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Aniek
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Foggy, I was thinking that this morning. I'd be very appreciate to anybody who would email my question to Gigi and post or PM a response for me.
My LLMD did mention all she wants to show is that I have toxicity, she wants me on as low a dose as possible to reduce the bad reaction. She said I don't need to show lots of toxicity for her to treat me.
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CD57
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Any more posters with exp on this? I am supposed to do a challenge and have one camp telling me oral DMSA is fine and doesn't get into the brain, and the other telling me to IV DMPS and that IT doesn't get into the brain.
There is research showing contradiction on both sides.
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I don't know the difference or which one is better but I did the IV with a DMPS push, then a 24 hour urine challenge (Dr's Data) and then chelated (IV's with DMPS). After chelating for a few months I redid the urine challenge (after an IV with the DMPS).
My dr. just happends to do the DMPS. It worked very well for me.
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Ditto, my doc said he preferred DMPS IV because that way you are sure that the compound makes it at least as far as the bloodstream...oral DMSA may not be well absorbed. With DMPS IV I got my mercury of 37 down to a 7 in 2 years. I also had my 3 silver amalgams replaced during that time.
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I would be very careful with DMPS. You should google for Andy Cutler. He literally wrote the book on Mercury Detox. Some people have been harmed by the DMPS challenge test itself. If you're kidneys and liver are already weak then you dump a ton of Mercury through them you could damage them irreparably.
Check this useful index for some of Andy's posts. Look for DMPS
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CD57
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Is DMSA as toxic as DMPS? I haven't seen a DMSA backfire type of site.
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Aniek
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Hi all. I've been too busy with the bar exam and getting ready to move to post this summer.
I ended up doing DMSA because I was told I could not submit the IV or the test if I got IV to insurance because of a law in the state where that doctor is located. I did the DMSA and came up positive for mercury. I delayed chelation until after law school and the bar exam and expect to begin next month.
My doctor was not happy with my decision because the DMSA is not supposed to be sensitive enough. I decided I would try the version I didn't need to pay for first and then try IV if it was negative.
I did get a serious headache that lasted a couple days from DMSA.
-A
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I just did DMSA a couple weeks ago. 4 caps then test lasted for 6 hrs. Was kind of strange, after I finished, fatigue overwhelmed me and for the rest of the day and eve I had bad asthma symptoms. Haven't had asthma in years
However, I only started my abx last Sun., and I have had less fatigue. I am thinking because possibly I got rid of alot of that stuff.
In '2000 a doc found I had very high levels of mercury and treated me for it, so I'm sure I had high levels of others.
Any input on this would be appreciated...the abx already or getting rid of those toxins that helped my fatigue?
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CD57
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I thought i'D post this for anyone interested. Just heard back from my LLMD's naturopath and here's what she said. I'm supposed to do a provoke test and haven't been able to pull the trigger on doing it.
DMSA does NOT cross the BBB and is used primarily for lead, although will get some mercury too. DMPS DOES cross the BBB and is used primarily for mercury.
I think Gigi or someone has posted on here that you DON'T want to move metals in the brain around (alzheimer's?). So maybe DMSA is a better option.
The research online by the way, is completely conflicting. What's new, pussycat?
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