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believe3
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Hello, I am not new to lyme disease. I have been

treating for it for over two years now. Starting

last friday afternoon I started to have severe

pain. All of my muscles. from my head to my

toes are screaming in pain. I can barely use my

hands, I can not pick up my child or open a bottle

of pop. I can barely walk. It hurts so much to

type this but I need some help. I have only a non

narcotic muscle relaxer that is not helping, I

took some advil. I saw my doctor on Friday but

the pain was not this bad. He told me to go to a

pain specialist but that will take me time to get

an appointment. He did prescribe me tramadol and

neurontin I am going to fill those this morning.

I also left a message for him to see if he would

prescribe a pain narcotic for at least 7 days

until i can get in to see a pain doctor. I am not

sure he will do that since I live out of state

from him. I have never ever had this amount of

pain. Why now? Is there something that was

missed. Am I having a auto immune response to

soemthing? I could not go to work today and I

could get fired If I don't go in to work. I have

been crying for two days now. the pain is

unberable. Please help me figgure out how to stop

it. Please help.

Thank you.

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8man12
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neurontin does help,,but i had to take 2400 mg..3-800s a day.When they first gave it too me it didnt work because they didnt give me enough.What works for me is lorecet plus.It is even used for chronic fatigue people.It gives ya a little energy it seems.But i think it actualy takes so much of the pain away your body feels a little normal again.Watch pain clinics,they like to give steroid shots.
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This may be a silly question but did you check it isnt a side effect to a med you are taking?

Also did you switch increase lyme meds (abx) or start to go after a coinfection? If so, it could be a herx.

Maybe a different kind of muscle relaxer would help. There are quite a few different kinds I know Aniek said the one she takes helps her.

What about lying in a hot bath? It never took away the pain but made things a smidge better. For me extreme pain causes my body to tense up which cause more pain which makes it tense more which equals more pain... so the heat relaxed them a bit kinda broke that cycle for me.

I hope you find some relief soon. [group hug]

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Neurontin has reportedly helped quite a lot of people on this board. It seemed to help me but I developed a rash and had to discontinue after 1 day.

Tramadol helps neuropathic pain. I have taken it for several years with as much or more help than with narcotic medication (fentanyl patch, oxycontin, etc.).

Infrared heat lamps help with pain. Walmart sells a 250W bulb for less than $5.

Best of luck.

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Tramadol works as well as a narcotic for many people. So I would start by getting that prescription filled and trying the Tramadol to see if it works.

Neurontin is really for nerve pain. You might want to start with the Tramadol, since it's a fast acting drug, and see if it works first.

If possible, try to relax. I know it's very hard to relax when you have such intense muscle pain. But the tenser you are, the tighter the muscles and the more pain. Maybe a hot bath?

I have extreme muscle pain. I started zanaflex recently, and it is making a huge difference. When you do get in to see a pain specialist, I would ask about it.

Longterm pain management, you want a drug that controls the pain so that you can take a breakthrough medication, like Tramadol or a narcotic, when the pain still pushes through.

Zanaflex works on muscle pain to relax the muscles and stop the pain signals. I was taking vicodin regularly until I started the zanaflex, and hardly need the vicodin anymore.

If the prescriptions you have don't work, then go to an urgent care center. They might be able to help you. But try the Tramadol first. It really could work.

I hope you start feeling better. If you have any questions, send me a PM. I've been dealing with muscle pain for 5 years.

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Thank you all for your responses. I droped off my

rx's and will be picking them up in the next hour

or so. I will try the tramadol first. I have not

started any new med but I have messed up on my

birthcontrol pills and that always sends me into a

herx. Plus I just made the 11 hour drive to my

doctor which always puts a huge toll on my body.

but I never ever have experienced this. I was

sitting in the car yesterday and I felt it. It

started in my legs they started to tense up it

moved through me like a wave. Up through my

stomach. even my stomach muscles tensed up and I

immediately felt nausous. It moved up my torso

and threw my arms. I feel like my brain is

telling my muscles to tense up. I am not sure. I

made an appt with a pain doctor but can not get in

until next week. I also left my doctor a message.

We will see what he says. Thanks again for your

help. I do have a hot tub also that I was in

early this morning. I will be going back in a

little later. going to lie down now.


ugh

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If the pain feels like muscle spasms, then magnesium, calcium, and selenium can help relax the muscles.

I am so sorry you are hurting so much!

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Neurontin can really help with nerve pain
for many Lymed people. I hope one of those scripts helps you.

I had chronic agony for over 2 years from Lyme and it is completely gone and has been gone for years now- so don't give up- even if it seems like it is damage and will stay forever it can get better. I never believed I would get this well again. I hope one day you can say the same.

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Hi Merrie! I'm so sorry that you are suffering so much. Pain was always my worst symptom.

I do hope the tramadol works for you. The neurontin will take longer to work, so don't give up too soon on that one.

Keep us posted when you can so we will know how you are doing.

[group hug] Merrie [group hug]

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Hi Merrie,

Yes, I also am fairly certain that my brain is telling my muscles to tense up. It often also involves vomiting when my brain tells my stomach to heave.

I have been put on Lyrica (pregabalin). This is the second generation neurontin. The neurontin was a joke in comparison. With the pregabalin, in one study I heard, many notice improvement on day 2. I noticed after one dose that there was something "to it". On day 2, there was already improvement.

I have fewer events (I'm fairly certain they're a form of seizures) now that I'm on the Pregabalin, but still have to pace myself, or I experience fewer of what you're describing. And the pain is so horrible.

Please ask about the Pregabalin. It's made a significant difference in the lives of a number of us on this site. If you have the energy, I would suggest doing a quick search of the forums for Lyrica, and reading the discussions.

May you have some relief soon! soon!

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So sorry to hear you are in pain. Pain stinks.

The main thing that helped my pain level was treatment for lyme and co-infections, but it takes time. I did get some relief from taking Elavil, and sleep meds like Melatonin and at times Ambien.

I hope you find something that helps you, and you feel better soon. Keep us posted.

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Merrie,
I also live with this all over pain-it is not fun! I know exactly what you are going through...I'm glad you posted because I learned a lot about these pain drugs that I was wanting to know about too.. so thanks!

Hang in there, a prayer has been said.
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Here is a link to some pain treatment resources from the American Pain Foundation. They have a guide on how to get the best pain treatment, and a guide on pain management drugs and other treatment.

http://www.painfoundation.org/page.asp?file=Publications/Index.htm

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Thanks everyone, My doctor did call me in a RX

for pain. Just something to get me through this

until I get an appt with a pain doctor. It helps

somewhat but I just need the pain to stop and

nothing is helping 100%. I guess that is too much

to ask. I have to go to work tomorrow and I am

not sure how Im going to type all day in this

pain. I guess all I can do is pray that tomorrow

brings less pain. I have to be herxing. I have

to be. I do not see any other explanation. I

have had lyme for years and to just all of a

sudden have this intense pain doesn't make any

sense. Stupid lyme disease. I am even at the

point where I wonder if there isn't something else

causing my pain and the lyme diagnosis will make

me miss that. I just don't know.

Thank you all again.

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