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Has any one ever been diagnosed with gout due to lyme disease or the medication used to treat lyme? My last Dr. visit I had another set of blood screenings done because of arthritic aches and the results came back that my sed rates were elevated(meaning there is something bothering me according to my body) and my uric acid levels were elevated also. High uric acid levels are usually a symptom of gout but I have never had any problems with gout related symptoms until the last dose of doxycyline.Think thats how you spell it. So just wondering if anyone had any thoughts. I am not sure how long i have had lyme disease but like many of you here i have had trouble with multiple symptoms that Dr's cant really get to the root of the cause. But they are sure it is not CHRONIC lyme disease. Ha Ha ha hahahaha
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I lean towards gout now its just to many acids for the body to deal with when that happens you build up uric acid in the joints hurts about the same as lyme. I think our livers are so bombarded by the death and die off of organisms that any extra acids like pop with me especially diet coke to many in a row and the uric acids get backed up.
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In my experience the gout sx have nothing to do with doxy. I haven't taken an abx since May 03 and recently something has changed with my arthritic pain.
Just went to doc last Monday due to rash that appeared on both elbows. While I've had pain in knees, wrists, ankles since 99, pain in elbows with rash might be gout. Recently Gigi posted about gout actually being borrelia (lyme).
Doctor many times had done sed rate, ANA blood tests etc, it's going to be interesting to see what he calls it. My sed rate was as high as 75, 7 years when all this started. My primary dx is chronic lyme disease.
Over the years my pain could be really bad and my sed rate might be 20 or another time it could be double that.
I had taken 4 embedded nymph ticks off me early June. So once again I'm sure the suckers have left something else for me to fight off.
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I was also recently diagnosed with gout by my LLMD. I've never had any symptoms of it, and I still doubt that dx.
My uric acid level was 7.3 when the normal range is 3-7. Seems pretty borderline to me.
Yes, I have joint pain, but I also have Lyme and babesia!
My husband says that I'm in denial since I've had one bunion removed, and the other may need to be done at some point. I don't think that is gout related, but I could be in denial. Posts: 97 | From Clinton, CT | Registered: Jun 2007
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I had been diagnosed arund May 2006 with lyme after having stroke like symptom drivng to Twin Cities for work. Scared the hell out of my boss who was riding with me. Just blacked out vision went blurry. I got the truck pulled over and began balling like a baby and couldn't talk for about a minute. It was over as fast as it started but the wife made me go in and get checked out. They put me through the guantlet of test ekg, eeg, mri's etc. My MRI came back with a spot on one side of my brain and not the other. So they thought it could be lyme, syphlis, ms. Came back that i tested positve on ELISA and Western Blot for lyme. They gave me the prescribed 2 weeks of doxy and everything was all better for about a 3 weeks. Then i couldnt get enough sleep and decided to be seen again. Guess what? I was depressed and given prozac. Any one think this sounds familiar. On prozac for 1 month and couldn't stand it. Made things worse. Stopped Prozac and started having adrenaline rushes like every 5-10 minutes. Convinced dr to give doxy again for 2 months after he ran more test and found i had mono along with everything else i was making up in the meantime. After about 1 month of doxy my joints were killing me. New symptom for me because i never had any joint pain earlier. After research it sounded like my lyme was making a comeback or was doxy resistant. So to make a long story short i went to an internal med. dr. He ran more test after discrediting the need for long term abx and found that i may have gout. I am a bit skeptical of all dr's now due the misdiagnosis and such so i thought i would ask you guys.
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I pulled this off of Wikipedia.
Pathogenesis Gout occurs when mono-sodium urate crystals form on the articular cartilage of joints, on tendons, and in the surrounding tissues. Purine metabolism gives rise to uric acid, which is normally excreted in the urine. Uric acid is more likely to form into crystals when there is a hyperuricaemia, although it is 10 times more common without clinical gout than with it[3]
Purines can be generated by the body via breakdown of cells in normal cellular turnover, or can be ingested in purine-rich foods such as seafood, beer). Most people with gout, however, do not produce more than the normal amount of uric acid, but instead tend to be under-excretors. The kidney is responsible for approximately one-third of uric acid excretion, with the gut responsible for the rest. It may be possible that defects in the kidney that may be genetically determined are responsible for the predisposition of individuals for developing gout.
There are also different racial propensities to develop gout. Gout is high among the peoples of the Pacific Islands, and the Māori of New Zealand, but rare in the Australian aborigine despite the latter's higher mean concentration of serum uric acid.[4] In the United States, gout is twice as prevalent in African American males as it is in Caucasians.[5]
A seasonal link also may exist, with significantly higher incidence of acute gout attacks occurring in the spring.[6] [7]
Hyperuricemia is considered an aspect of metabolic syndrome, although its prominence has been reduced in recent classifications. This explains the increased prevalence of gout among obese individuals.
Gout is a form of arthritis that affects mostly men between the ages of 40 and 50. The high levels of uric acid in the blood are caused by protein rich foods. Alcohol intake often causes acute attacks of gout and hereditary factors may contribute to the elevation of uric acid. Typically, persons with gout are obese, predisposed to diabetes and hypertension, and at higher risk of heart disease. Gout is more common in affluent societies due to a diet rich in proteins, fat, and alcohol.[8] It is known that lead sugar was used to sweeten wine, and that chronic lead poisoning is a cause of gout,[9][10] which condition is then known as saturnine gout, because of its association with alcohol and excess.[11]
Gout also can develop as co-morbidity of other diseases, including polycythaemia, leukaemia, intake of cytotoxics, obesity, diabetes, hypertension, renal disorders, and hemolytic anemia. This form of gout is often called secondary gout. Diuretics (particularly thiazide diuretics) have traditionally been blamed for precipitating attacks of gout, but a Dutch case-control study from 2006 appears to cast doubt on this conclusion.[12]
I think a change of diet is critical for this condition.
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"Convinced dr to give doxy again for 2 months after he ran more test and found i had mono along with everything else i was making up in the meantime. After about 1 month of doxy my joints were killing me. New symptom for me because i never had any joint pain earlier. After research it sounded like my lyme was making a comeback or was doxy resistant."
Doxy will make you herx. Look through the link below for info on herxing. I doubt you are resistant to doxy at this point.
Most drs have NO CLUE about chronic lyme. You were given woefully inadequate treatment initially....and now you're paying for it.
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