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AZN301
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Has any one ever heard of our knows about some one being infected with lyme while field dressing a Deer?
I believe that is how i contracted the disease. I just never recalled any ticks that have been embedded or any rash. I live in an area where there isn't a high number of deer ticks but i do live in southwest MN.

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I think it would be quite possible. I'm pretty sure it's been discussed here before.

You may have been bitten and not have known it. You can get Lyme disease from just about any tick known to man.

Click on this:
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=059088

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Lyme Disease Symptoms List
1. Unexplained fevers, sweats, chills, or flushing
2. Unexplained weight change--loss or gain
3. Fatigue, tiredness, poor stamina
4. Unexplained hair loss
5. Swollen glands: list areas____
6. Sore throat
7. Testicular pain/pelvic pain
8. Unexplained menstrual irregularity
9. Unexplained milk production: breast pain
10.Irritable bladder or bladder dysfunction
11.Sexual dysfunction or loss of libido
12.Upset stomach
13.Change in bowel function-constipation, diarrhea
14.Chest pain or rib soreness
15.Shortness of breath, cough
16.Heart palpitations, pulse skips, heart block
17.Any history of a heart murmur or valve prolapse?
18.Joint pain or swelling: list joints_____________
19.Stiffness of the joints, neck, or back
20.Muscle pain or cramps
21.Twitching of the face or other muscles
22.Headache
23.Neck creeks and cracks, neck stiffness, neck pain
24.Tingling, numbness, burning or stabbing sensations, shooting pains
25.Facial paralysis (Bell's Palsy)
26.Eyes/Vision: double, blurry, increased floaters, light sensitivity
27.Ears/Hearing: buzzing, ringing, ear pain, sound sensitivity
28.lncreased motion sickness, vertigo, poor balance
29.Lightheadedness, wooziness
30.Tremor
31.Confusion, difficulty in thinking
32.Diffculty with concentration, reading
33.Forgetfuiness, poor short term memory
34.Disorientation: getting lost, going to wrong places
35.Difficulty with speech or writing
36.Mood swings, irritability, depression
37.Disturbed sleep-too much, too little, early awakening
38.Exaggerated symptoms or worse hangover from alcohol

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welcome!

are you a member of the NRA? IF YES, see the activism post about NRA ok!! thx!!

when you gget my newbie package, look for Betty's/LDA brochure. i've got a lot of info in there about hunting, procedures on meat, etc.

glad you found us. are you by Sioux Falls area or upper minn.? [confused]

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Deer hunting Lyme infection story-
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DANGEROUS DEER HUNTING IN JACKSON COUNTY
By Darryl Current


In November, 1995, my cousin and I went bow hunting for one of the first times at a pig farm in the northwest corner of Jackson County. He
was fairly new at bow hunting so I put him in my best spot and began the walk to my other stand.

Before I even got back to my stand, he
hollered, "I got one!" Turning back, I joined him in examining the 8 point buck he shot.


We began to dress the deer and drag it out of the woods. Occasionally as he gutted the deer; he paused and scraped the knife down his arm.
When I asked him what he was doing, he told me ticks were crawling up his arms and he was scraping them off. My uncle came over later to
examine the deer and help us to complete dressing it out.


Within a couple of weeks, I began having blurred vision in one eye. I was going to a chiropractor at the time, and I wondered if something about the way he adjusted my back was causing my eyes to blur.

Eight weeks after handling that deer; I woke one morning totally blind in one eye. My wife immediately got me an emergency appointment at our eye doctor who sent me that afternoon to a local eye specialist who, in turn, sent me to University of Michigan Eye Center. None of the doctors offered an explanation for the blindness.


Soon afterwards, I also noticed three bite marks on my neck, accompanied by a red rash. Heavy fatigue and muscular problems (difficulty in walking) appeared soon after the rash. My family physician examined the rash and prescribed cortisone cream for it, but
decided to recommend a neurological examination for the muscular problems. Within only a few weeks my "doctor quest" already included
five physicians.


During the same period of time, my cousin began experiencing vision and muscular problems and sought treatment from a different set of doctors. Fortunately for him, pneumonia set in and he was hospitalized and treated with intravenous antibiotic therapy. (He didn't realize at the time how lucky he was to get sick enough to receive antibiotic therapy.) The pneumonia and other symptoms temporarily subsided.


My uncle developed Bell's palsy during this same time period but was also fortunate to receive intravenous antibiotic therapy prior to
surgery. The Bell's palsy went away.


My neurologist's report diagnosed the possibility for "mini" strokes but I was never treated, neither were any additional tests performed by the neurologist. I was still going to Ann Arbor to have my eye examined. I was faithfully using that cortisone cream on that itchy, round, red rash on my neck, but it persisted despite the medication.


Because of the treatment I received from different doctors for the various symptoms, no one doctor seemed able to understand the total
problem. No one considered all of these symptoms were caused by the same illness.


After five years spent going to doctors in Ann Arbor, Lansing, and Jackson while suffering devastating symptoms, I learned of a disease
carried by deer ticks called Lyme disease.


A new neurologist moved to Jackson and I excitedly scheduled a consultation appointment with him. He was fresh out of medical school and internship; he must be up on this new disease. He ordered an MRI scan and several blood tests.


All the blood tests came back negative but the MRI scan showed lesions on my brain. Because of this test result, the doctor tentatively diagnosed me with Multiple Sclerosis and scheduled a spinal tap to confirm the diagnosis.

My spinal fluid showed no traces of MS but the doctor insisted that I suffered from it anyway.

Two weeks previous to this, my cousin was experiencing another onset of symptoms and was diagnosed with MS by his own doctor. Two first
cousins diagnosed with MS within two weeks of each other.

We met with my doctor armed with both sets of medical records to discuss the possibility that we contracted Lyme disease from that deer.

He also said:

"It is between zero and no chance that you have Lyme disease" and informed us that it was statistically possible for first cousins to
contract Multiple Sclerosis simultaneously. I guess anything is statistically possible, but the chances of this happening would be extremely rare.

The doctor's written report (that we didn't read until five years later) differed from his verbal one. His written file report
acknowledged the possibility that this disease was MS or it could be mini strokes, cancer; AIDS, or....... Lyme disease. He didn't recommend tests on me to rule out any of the other diseases. He just told me be was sorry that I had MS.


Nine months later; I found a doctor in Saginaw who clinically diagnosed me with Lyme disease. I suffered from over 90% of the symptoms, yet because of the elusiveness of the disease and the lack of good testing methods, my Lyme serology came back negative.


Five and one half years of problems began to lessen after only two weeks of oral antibiotics. And the extreme fatigue began to lift.


During the next two years of treatment, I was able to walk fairly normally again, and my vision problems began to clear. Even though I
showed some progress with the drug treatments, the symptoms never totally disappeared.


For three and a half years, I showed solid
improvement until November 1994 when a reaction to a new antibiotic caused a setback in my health. As of this time, I have not regained the
progress I had made, but my condition has stabilized.


By the way, my cousin was treated with IV antibiotics a second time for pneumonia and
has been symptom free ever since.


Right now, I spend hundred of dollars every month on medications and treatments to try to recapture my health. Fortunately, I am self
employed and can continue running my business out of my home, but I am no longer able to do any physical labor that is involved in my
business. Through these eleven years, I have learned to make changes in my life that enables me to function on a limited level. I am now
considered handicapped by the State of Michigan and am able to carry on a limited life with my wife and two sons.

Dr. Natole saved me from being labeled with Multiple Sclerosis and "shelved" with no hope of treatment or recovery. Unfortunately, Dr. Natole is no longer my physician, but now I know that treatment methods are available and the hope for recovery is before me. Had I truly had MS, antibiotic therapy would have had no impact on my health, yet I improved with antibiotic therapy.

My hope is that further research will find a cure for this disease, and I will be able to return to a full, happy life with my family. I know there are many other Lyme patients in the Michigan and in other parts of the United States that desire the same thing. We must work together if this dream is ever to become a reality for us. We must continue to fight for our doctors and for research until we find the answer.

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Thanks for posting that, CALyme!

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AZN, the first I ever heard about Lyme Disease in my local area was from one of two people who believe they got Lyme from field dressing an antelope in this county. Both she and her husband dressed out the antelope, and both got Lyme Disease. And neither one ever saw a tick, had a bite, etc.

(Incidentally, she said when they cut the animal open, it "didn't look quite right", so they decided not to eat any of the meat. They never brought any of the carcass or hide home with them that might have brought ticks with it.)

So, you are not the first to suspect this type of exposure and subsequent infection. [Smile]

Tracy

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quote:
Originally posted by cave76:
Not just deer hunting--- but any kind of hunting or outdoor activity.

Even gardening, picnicking, or hiking just to mention a few.

Then, for newbies here, a person doesn't even have to be outside. A pet can bring in ticks.

And mice and rats are always present near or in our houses----the best way to bring ticks in.

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True Cave it is the MICE that are the culprits.

Deer don't get Lyme disease. Mice do. As do dogs and horses and people. So IF these people got Lyme when gutting a deer, it is because there were ticks on them that got Lyme from mice, or something like that. NOT from the deer itself.

Jim [Cool]

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