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Kelly, When I went, I was asked to let her know if I felt any discomfort, because it isn't supposed to hurt.
I wondered if she was doing anything at all, but later was sore, so I know something got manipulated.
Looks like some advocacy is in order: like ask for someone more experienced. No way it should hurt.
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CST should not hurt. It is a very gentle hands-on therapy to encourage flow of the spinal fluid. It is not supposed to be "massage". That said, I often feel drained after a deep session, as blockages are cleared and my body releases.
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They are supposed to use a VERY light touch....and at times, NO touch!
Tell 'em you want your money back!!
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Thank you, Lymetoo. I have drafted a letter and will deliver it personally to the owner tomorrow demanding my money back.
It was one of those places that did a hard sell on more procedures, supplements, and a book the owner wrote, etc.
The owner was so wrapped up in his knowlege, and that his methods could cure cancer, he didn't listen to me.
I'm getting more disgusted thinking about it.
Thanks Kelly
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NO, I had it done at PT by a trained therapist. Some ins co's will cover it.
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Keep looking. You're bound to find someone who can do a very good job. My therapist would get me so relaxed, it was unbelievable. And she could relieve any headaches I had too.
She moved and I no longer have access to her care. DARN!
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Kelly:
Where are you located?
My RCST teaches the Franklin technique, which is awesome. I had a session today and was able to stay alert through a business meeting after, better than usual, as I have been knocked flat with a stomach bug.
quote:Originally posted by kelmo: Just an update. I got the money back for my daughter's "therapy". Good for them.
Good job, Mom!!
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The letter he sent, with a copy of his book, said that he spoke to the therapist and she told him she did the lightest touch and that the pain she felt was most likely from the congestion in her lymphglands causing inflammation.
He said it's the first time in his 13 years that anyone has been dissatisfied.
Boy...now do I feel guilty?!
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quote:Originally posted by kelmo: Boy...now do I feel guilty?!
Nothing to feel guilty about! Maybe you can get her to someone who can do the lymph drainage, then find another cranio person??
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What my daughter described to me is they did a little lymph message on her arms and chest. Maybe the neck was involved, but she doesn't remember that.
All she remembers is the fingers digging into the base of her skull. Unless she is just super sensitive, did you feel that? I'm guessing you don't.
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K:
Yes, you can feel a little pressure when a therapist places her finger tips at the base of your skull. It is an accupressure point. Though, it generally feels like good pressure and can be very relaxing. It eases my headaches and jaw tightness within seconds. I actually like that contact a lot.
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What a great mom, defending your daughter like that!
Yes, where do you live, I might be able to help point you in the direction of someone who really knows what they are doing.
The Franklin techniqe is very gentle. Also anyone who says they are trained in "biodynamcic CST" should be very gentle as well.
It makes sense that the congested lymph at the base of the skull might be very tender, and some lymph drainage therapy could help.
Those muscles also tend to get very very tight in someone who is experiencing lots of pain.
There are very gentle cranial base release holds that don't require digging in the fingers.
An experienced therapist would be able to pick up on your daughter's pain reaction, and back off, or ask for feedback.
You might want to ask how many years a therapist has been practicing CST, and how many classes they have taken. Experience and training do count!
It's also good for your daughter to learn to speak up! Sometimes we get so trained from all our duck visits to lay down, shut up, and do the treatment as prescribed.
She should know that she can ask for less pressure, a blanket, a glass of water, or to get up for the bathroom or for any reason, at any time.
Did you stay in the room with your daughter? How old is she? When I treat children and teens, I always request that the parent stay in the room, at least for the first visit, especially for this reason.
Sometimes kids will whisper to mom when they have a problem, but they won't always be assertive to a stranger when they feel so vulnerable.
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BJ:
Good point about speaking up.
My CS Therapist talks to me during a session. Before placing her hands anywhere she will ask if it is ok to do so. She also asks what I am feeling throughout the session. This verbal exchange is very important to the process. It assures a level of safety and trust.
Am liking this post, as I feel CST has been an integral part of my healing.
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Bejoy, thank you for your advice. My daughter is 19. She is usually good about speaking up, but I think her few experiences with messages, et al, they have always given her pain. She didn't expect any different.
I anticipated before going in that this would be gentle and relaxing.
It was compounded by the owner of this establishment talking LOUDLY about his knowledge and showing us that my daughter could have her illness taken care of with 5-10 sessions of CST and Lymph drainage.
He then pointed to her face, which she is embarrassed has broken out (we know it to be from toxins and possible lymph backup), and said he could clear that up for her.
She didn't want to be the object of attention, and he was so overzealous all we wanted to do was GET OUT.
I picked up the check last night, and he included in a package his book and a nice letter stating that he would like to have a chance to do the therapy on my daughter and show how it could be gentle and effective.
At that point, should I decide to go back and give him a second chance, I would be in the room with him. One, since he's a man, Two, for my daughter to feel protected and give her support to speak up.
The man wouldn't listen to us. Maybe now he will. I do a lot of research and all of you have been so helpful with your experiences. We have a protocol and I don't want people "should-ing" all over us. He needs to respect that just because he wrote a book does not make the rest of us ignorant.
I'll let my daughter decide. As a business owner myself, I appreciate an opportunity for a second chance, and I'm willing to give him one.
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