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merrygirl
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It is that time of year and I was wondering if Lymies should get the Flu vaccine or not?

Thanks, Melissa

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Nope. Could make you worse or put you into relapse. Happened to me.

Try taking a tablespoon or 2 of Sambucol Elderberry Extract daily.

Or begin taking 1 capsule Epicor daily forever. It takes 3 months to kick in.

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Lymetoo
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Not for me.

Flu shot ingredients and discussion
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=059176;p=1

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=048116#000017
flu shots
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019713.html
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020043.html

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LuLuFlorida
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Vaccines are made out of the pathogen that causes the disease. Getting a flu vaccinne would be putting yourself at more risk for contracting th flu since people with Lyme have weakened immune systems. I would stay away.

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i have diabetes 2;; YES, getting mine this saturday.

i'll take my chances since 4 yr. go almost died from flu/cold and NO being ale to breathe. never agains..

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Not me sweet pea.

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Definitely need it if asthmatic, and susceptable to the flu and cold bugs like I used to be.

Missed mine last year, but did get the pneumonia shot. Herbs help also, but I still feel IF we are susceptible to it, get it by all means.

Jim [Cool]

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Not me unless absolutely necessary!!
Seen too many people get very ill after 'em!!!

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Not even if you paid me $5 mill would I ever get a flu shot again. The first (and last) one I ever got just about killed me.

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My LLMD says no, but she offers an alternative.
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one flue shot put me over the edge and i've never really recovered.

not in a million years would i ever get another one. i'd rather take my chances with the flu.

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no way, not for me

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I have a reaction every time I get one, but it is NEVER as bad as when I would continually get the flu itself.

I wished I could die every time I got the flu. And that was many, many times a year. One little flu shot and somewhat sick from the shot, was nothing in comparison.

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quote:
Originally posted by randibear:
one flu shot put me over the edge and i've never really recovered.

JimBob....Being "somewhat sick" from a flu shot and what Randi is talking about are two different things.

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I don't think I have ever had the Flu. But I don't think I want to add any Vax to the mix.

I have enough to deal with now.

I will just get my kids and hubby vaccinated.

cobweb- what is the alternative?


Thanks for your opinions.

melissa

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I see that most of those that posted here are against getting a flu shot for themselves.

I got pretty sick [toilet] the last time I got a flu shot about 5 years ago,

before this last dx (Masters Disease). My LLMD that I now see wants me to get a flu shot.

So now, I feel like a real fence-sitter!! [Roll Eyes]

Decisions, decisions, decisions!! [shake]

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quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:
quote:
Originally posted by randibear:
one flu shot put me over the edge and i've never really recovered.

JimBob....Being "somewhat sick" from a flu shot and what Randi is talking about are two different things.
TuTu:
I NEVER said it was. I was just putting MY two cents worth in what happens to me one way or the other, and which I would prefer. EACH has to decide for themselves.

But IF you have asthma, think twice about NOT getting the flu shot. It could be devastating.

Jim [Cool]

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hubby and i had our flu shots today.

i'll look into a pneumonia for 1st time next week.

yes, everyone needs to dedide for themselves.

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I am a healthcare worker tho(elderly/nursing home) and i am exposed to flu as well as all other kinds of stuff. I would think the flu shot would be needed for me. I have never had a problem with the shot before. If my immune system is weak, then wont i be more susceptible to getting actual flu and being unable to fight it??

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Absolutely.

I got mine last weekend. Got a little sick later in the week, then better.

I specifically asked my LLMD about it and he said to do it. He said that many of his patients have their Lyme symptoms improve after teh shot. It is a way to kick up your immune system. Expect to feel it afterwards, but re-setting your immune system with live virus flu-mist may help in the long run. It has for me.

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quote:
Originally posted by kath628:
I am a healthcare worker tho(elderly/nursing home) and i am exposed to flu as well as all other kinds of stuff. I would think the flu shot would be needed for me. I have never had a problem with the shot before. If my immune system is weak, then wont i be more susceptible to getting actual flu and being unable to fight it??

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You are correct Kath. And IF you don't do it for yourself,please do it for your patients so you don't drag it to them. They are old and can't fight that stuff very well.

Jim. [Cool]

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I wouldn't take any shots or vaccines. Read this for further info - http://www.advancedhealthplan.com/flushots.html

People who say that they didn't get the flu due to getting the flu shot... how can you possibly prove that?

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Lymetoo
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Vaccine Fillers and Ingredients

In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, vaccine fillers and ingredients include:

aluminum hydroxide
aluminum phosphate
ammonium sulfate
amphotericin B
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum
betapropiolactone
fetal bovine serum
formaldehyde (EMBALMING FLUID)
formalin
gelatin
glycerol
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin
monosodium glutamate (MSG)
neomycin
neomycin sulfate
phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (ANTIFREEZE)
potassium diphosphate
potassium monophosphate
polymyxin B
polysorbate 20
polysorbate 80
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
residual MRC5 proteins
sorbitol
sucrose
thimerosal (MERCURY)
tri(n)butylphosphate,
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells

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sparkle, your link would NOOT open; please try again. thx [Big Grin]
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Betty, the URL worked on MY computer. Maybe you should try it again! [Big Grin]

I also posed the question to Snopes.com, and they stated it was undetermined IF the flu vaccines were a problem.

As far as "proving" that we did NOT get the flu after taking the vaccine. How about IF a person CHRONICALLY gets the flu MANY times EVERY year without the vaccine? And then doesn't get it WITH the vaccine? IF that is NOT good enough for you, make your OWN choices like we ALL have to anyway. Or at least should!

Jim [Cool]

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