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I have read a ton of information on chlorella. Enough to make my head spin. The one thing that still bothers me is this. What exactly will Chlorella bind???
I understand that it will bind the heavy metals in the body. Are there studies to refer to?
My biggest question is. Will it bind to ABX? To vitamins and minerals? Bind to pharmaceuticals?
I cannot find any papers/studies that say what effect Chlorella has on other substances. What will it bind?
People have said to take it 2 hours away from other things (except I heard you can take with probiotic - it will actually make it work better). If I try to take it 2 hours away from other things, then there is NO time left in the day to take it (with all the other stuff I take).
I know chlorella has vitamins and amino acids in it itself, but surely not at the level where it could replace my vitamins.
Any input is appreciated because I am real frustrated right now. References would be great if you have them.
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I don't have an answer, but I suggest Google Scholar as a place to get some sense of what kind of science has been done. Go to the Google home page, click on "More" and Scholar is at the bottom of the page. It references PubMed and more.
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An example
Uptake of cadmium and zinc by the alga chlorella vulgaris. II. Multi-ion situation Ting, YP; Lawson, F; Prince, IG Biotechnology and Bioengineering. Vol. 37, no. 5, pp. 445-455. 1991
Many microorganisms are capable of sequestering and concentrating heavy metals from their aqueous environment. While much research has been carried out on the uptake of single species of metal ions, little attention seems to have been given to the study of multimetal ion systems. A mathematical model has previously been developed to describe the uptake of individual metal species by a microorganism. The model proposes two sequential processes: an initial rapid uptake due to cellular surface adsorption and a subsequent slow uptake due to membrane transport of the metal into the cells. This article extends the treatment by considering the uptake of two metal species together, cadmium and zinc, under different experimental conditions. The results are discussed in terms of possible mechanistic interactions.
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I too want to keep this topic "up" in hopes that someone that knows the answer will stop by.
I know I was also told to take Chlorella and I thought it was basically to help with the detoxing of the die offs we get from our abx, but if there's more to it, I'm definitely interested in hearing about it.
Thanks for the topic. Any takers?
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If you decide to take chlorella as a binding agent, take it 30 minutes before a meal.
The more toxic you are, the more you should take. If you are mobilizing a lot of toxins/die-off, You need more chlorella/binding agents to mop it up.
Take chlorella far away from Vitamin C.
I am not aware that chlorella interfers with other meds. But check with your doctor.
Chlorella
Algae and other aquatic plants possess the capacity to take up toxic trace metals from their environment, resulting in an internal concentration greater than those of the surrounding waters. This property has been exploited as a mean for treating industrial effluent containing metals before they are discharged, and to recover the bioavailable fraction of the metal.44 Chlorella has been shown to develop resistance to cadmium contaminated waters by synthesizing metal-binding proteins.45 A book written for the mining industry, Biosorption of Heavy Metals, details how miners use organisms called biomasses to increase the yield of precious metals in old mines. These biomasses are sprayed into the mineshaft, washed out with water, and collected on ion exchange membranes. A biomass is a sludge of membranes usually from mono-cellular organisms that have a tendency to accumulate metals that they are exposed to in their outer cell wall. Dr. Klinghardt believes that most, if not all chronic infectious diseases are not caused by a failure of the immune system but are a conscious adaptation of the immune system to an otherwise lethal heavy metal environment. Mercury suffocates the intracellular respiratory mechanism and can cause cell death. So, it is speculated that the immune system makes a compromise: it cultivates fungi and bacteria that can bind large amounts of toxic metals. This allows the cells to breathe. However, the system is compromised, as it has to provide nutrition for the microorganisms and has to contend with their metabolic by-products (``toxins''). These organisms, especially Candida, can frequently grow uncontrollably. When this occurs, the patient experiences the so-called ``die-off effect'' (the sometimes severe crisis or even lethal reaction a patient can have in the initial stages of aggressive pharmaceutical antifungal or antibacterial treatment). This is often due to acute heavy metal toxicity-metals released from the cell walls of dying microorganisms. 7 The list of organisms that have the highest affinity for toxic metals covers the full spectrum of typical infectious diseases: fungi of the candida species, streptococci, staphylococci, and amoebas, among many others. However, two algae top the list of organisms in their ability to effectively bind to mercury: Chlorella pyreneidosa and Chlorella vulgaris. Although spirulina and super blue green algae are also algae with other health benefits, the mining and clinical research does not support their use in binding these heavy metals. Chlorella appears to have two significant mechanisms of action that make it an ideal agent to be used in a toxic-metal treatment protocol. Its cell wall absorbs rather large amounts of toxic metals (similar to an ion exchange resin). Either the specific combination of amino-acids, the chlorella derived growth factor, or some other yet unknown mechanism leads to mobilization of some mercury from within the cell. It enhances mobilization of mercury compartmentalized in non-neurologic structures such as the muscles, ligaments, connective tissue, and bone. Chlorella is an essential part of the detoxification program, as approximately 90% of the mercury in our bodies is eliminated through the stool. To increase the fecal excretion of mercury, certain principles should be applied. First, it is wise to first start the mercury detoxification by first unloading the connective tissue with chlorella. Large doses of chlorella will clear out the mercury that can frequently contaminate the colon. Chlorella works likes a sponge to suck up mercury from the body. Chlorella only pulls mercury out of the gut wall. Once the gut is cleared, the mercury will then, by osmosis, go into the gut from other body tissues where chlorella will effectively remove it from the body. Chlorella Dose The powder is the most cost effective approach but some people will prefer the tablets or capsules for convenience. One can start out with a one quarter of a teaspoon of the powder (one 500 mg tablet) once a day initially to confirm that there is no hypersensitivity present. Work up to 3/4 of a teaspoon (5- 500 mg. tablets) with every meal. Every tenth day you can take a large dose of one tablespoon (16- 500 mg tablets) with each meal. A simple way to dissolve the powder is to place it in a container with a lid partially filled with water. Then tighten the lid and shake to dissolve and drink the solution. Most people find it inconvenient to spread the doses out to include the lunch meal. Therefore, one could possibly increase the normal daily dose to 1 1/2 teaspoons with breakfast and dinner for convenience. CAUTION: If at any time one develops nausea or starts "burping up" the chlorella taste then the chlorella should be stopped immediately as a food sensitivity is developing which will only worsen if you continue taking it. Chlorella is also very helpful for removing radioactive metals or fallout. Amalgam tattoos are black deposits on the gum and cheeks that are due to mercury deposits. These are typically removed surgically. Chlorella can be used to remove the amalgam tattoos noninvasively by sticking the chlorella powder on a cotton roll and placing it on the tattoo overnight. The treatment requires about two weeks to remove the tattoo.
You can find the above text and more on www.neuraltherapy.com - articles - Mercury Detox, etc.
Check with your doctor - hopefully they can give you the answers you need. I never had a problem with chlorella or the timing of supplement intake.
If you are taking pharmaceuticals, please check with your doctor. I never had that much to worry about pharma drugs - I rarely took any, or only for a few weeks at a time, and then I fit them into my meal. Chlorella is a complete food and okay to take alone. For better absorption, I tried to take any vitamins and minerals with food, especially the oils. All for better absorption.
Hope this helps somewhat.
Take care.
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And here are some references. Sorry, you guys and girls will have to do some of the legwork yourself. I just do not have the time nor will to do more.
Most presentations that I have seen on Power Point over the years are not available to me to take home.
Scientific Reports - most of them are done in foreign countries. Plants cannot be patented. Germany, University of Tuebingen did some research too (1990's) with real humans and real poop - results great evidence it's working - could not be published and is resting in some governmental or pharmaceutical desk drawer. I don't know the outcome. Just know that it was clear evidence.
There are literally thousands of reports on the research done an the use of chlorella - only put a few here. Many in Japan and other Asian countries.
Chlorella Strengthens the Immune System & Anti-tumor effects Chlorella stimulates the activity of T-cells and macrophages (by increasing interferon levels) enhancing the immune system's ability to combat foreign invaders whether they are bacteria, viruses, chemicals or foreign proteins.
Chlorella extract (CGF) to treat patients whose immune systems were suppressed as a result of having brain tumors which were treated with surgery, radiation or Chemotherapy. Result showed that patients' immune systems remained at near normal levels and were less adversely affected by the Immunosuppressive treatments when chlorella was administered. (Merchant, Rice & Young from the Medical College of Virginia, 1990 study.)
A study showed that mice treated with 10mg of Chlorella extract prior to introduction of Cytomegalovirus (A virus that cause many diseases, and cause serious illness in patients being treated with drugs that slow down the immune system.), have survived lethal infection, the chlorella increased the activity of interferon and saving the mice from death. (Natural Immunology Cell Growth Regulation, Miyazaki Medical College Department of Microbiology.)
CGF stimulates the production of interferon, which is believed to slow the growth rate of cancer cells. (Research at Kitazato Institute. )
Chlorella can stimulate the macrophages and T-cells of the immune system, resulting in an anti-tumor effect, probably due to the protection or restoration of macrophage activity, which is usually retarded in the body by the time tumors start to grow. Chlorella also decreased the side effects of chemotherapy --- there was far less damage to the immune system. ( A combined report of Kanazawa Medical University of Japan and Taipei Medical University at the Third International Congress at Reims, France in 1985.)
An extract of Chlorella showed remarkable life prolongation effects in mice bearing Sarcoma 180 (cancer cells) with a broad optimal dose range. The extract was said to be " A potent modifier of some biological response " , such as the cancer-killing ability of macrophage cells. ( A research by Dr. Kanki Komiyamas of Japan.)
The stimulation of tumoricidal peritoneal macrophages can be directly induced by peritoneal implantation of unicellular algae in humans. ( By Vermeil, C.; Morin, O.; Le-Bolic, L. of Arch Inst. Pasteur Tunis. Mar-Jun 62 (1-2): 91-94.)
Chlorella enhanced the growth of Lactobacillus in the human colon by fourfold in a standard growth medium. It evident that Chlorella promotes human colon health. ( A report by Dr. Takechi Y. Gakushu Kenku-sha, Tokyo, Japan. Nov. 30, 1970.)
Popular use of foods containing chlorophyll shows it helps cleanse the bloodstream, deodorize bad breath and body odor, deactivate carcinogenic substances and halt tooth decay. In addition, inflammatory conditions such as arthritis and stomach ulcers respond well to algae supplementation. ( " Healing with Whole Foods " by Paul Pitchford. (North Atlantic Books )
Human RNA/DNA production slows down progressively as people age, resulting in low levels of vitality and increased vulnerability to various diseases. When our RNA and DNA are in good repair and able to function most efficiently, our bodies are able to use nutrients more effectively, get rid of toxins and avoid disease. Cells are able to repair themselves and the energy level and vitality of the whole body is raised? Dr. Benjamin Frank is recommended a diet rich in nucleic acids to counter this "aging" process. Current laboratory analysis shows 3% RNA and 0.3% DNA in Chlorella which would make it one of the highest known food substances in nucleic acids. ( " The No-Aging Diet " by Dr. Benjamin Frank. )
Dr. Bernard Jensen and other researchers have proved that " The reports of treatment with Chlorella by Dr. Frank to his patients have regain energy and a more youthful appearance. In addition , long-standing problems with arthritis, memory loss and depression begin to abate. " ( " Chlorella - the sun-powered supernutrient and its beneficial properties " by William H. Lee, R. Ph., Ph.D. and Michael Rosenbaum, M.D. )
The Chlorella Growth Factors (CGF) contain richest sources of nucleic acids, which researchers believed that eating foods rich in nucleic acids will slow down the aging process. Experiments with laboratory mice have shown their life span can be extended by over 30% !, after fed with Chlorella. ( " Chlorella: Natural Medicinal Algae " by Dr. David Steenblock. )
Life Extending Effect of Chlorella --- a report showed that the life span of both diabetic and normal mice have increased 30%, after given Chlorella for feeding. ( Medical College of Kanazawa, Japan.)
Because Chlorophyll absorbs and inactivates toxic materials, people have traditionally taken algae for their high chlorophyll content. ( Ron Klatz, D.O., president of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine in Colorado Springs.)
In Japan, interest in chlorella has focused largely on its detoxifying properties - its ability to neutralize or remove poisonous substances from the body, including Cadmium, mercury-caused disease, dixon, PCBs, X-rays and other radiations.
A Report by Scottist in 1986 and report from Japan showed that increase absorption of Cadmium by Chlorella and increased excretion of Cadmium by threefold after intake of Chlorella from animal testing. Chlorella can also detoxify Uranium, Lead, Copper, PCB. ( " A good Health Guide: Chlorella " by William H Lee. R. Ph.D. and Michael Rosenbaum, M.D. )
Chlorella exhibited radioprotective action against Gamma-ray induced Chromosomal damage in mice. The Anti-mutagenic activity of chlorophyll and beta-carotene present in vegetable extracts is now well established. ( The Japan Radiation Research Society in 1993.)
Guinea pigs on a diet rich in chlorophyll showed increased resistance to lethal X-rays. ( U.S. Army report in 1950 .)
Chlorella has the unique property of picking up toxic substances and eliminating them out of the body. Chlorella cell walls absorb and hang onto lead. ( Report by Drs. D. Lorch and A. Weber )
Detoxifying of very harmful Chlorinated Hydrocarbon Insecticide, has been shown to be removed more than twice as fast from the body when chlorella is taken by mouth. ( Dr. S. Pore, of the School of Medicine, West Virginia University, 1984.)
Reports of " Effects of Chlorella on Levels of Cholesterol in Serum and Liver " showed that 16 patients were given 20 tablets of Chlorella daily for three months, without any anti-cholesterol drugs, their cholesterol levels had been significantly lowered. ( Research of Wakahisa Hospital of Fukuoka, Japan. )
Chlorella contains protein of " astonishingly high quality ", could prevent liver gangrene and suggested that people suffering from Kwashiorkor should be given protein made from Chlorella instead of protein from milk. (Report of Hermann Fink of University of Cologne and Bonn in West Germany. Physiol Chem. 182-191, 1956)
" Effect of Chlorella on fecal and urinary cadmium excretion in " by Hagino et al. It ai-Itai Jpn. J. Hyg. 30(1), 77, April 1975.
" Effect of Chlorella on the levels of glycogen, triglyceride and cholesterol in ethionine treated rats. " by Want, L.F. Lin, Y. C. Tung, J. Formosan Medical Assoc., 79 (1), 1-10, 1980.
" A new Chlorella polysaccharide and its accelerating effect on the phagocytic activity of the reticulo endothelial system. " by Kojima, M.; Kasajima, T.; Imai, Y., et al: Recent Adv. Res., 13, 11, 1973.
" Clinical Applications of Chlorella Pills." by Saito, Tatsumi, Saito Taku, Oka, T., Medical Examinations and New Drugs. 3.3 pp. 61-64, 1966.
" The effects of Chlorella on the levels of cholesterol in serum and liver. " by Okuda; Hasegawa, J.; Sonoda, M.; Okabe, t.; Tanaka, Y. of Japan Journal of Nutrition. 1975.)
" The effect of Chlorella as a prophylactic means against bronchopneumonia. " by Terziev V.; Plansk, b.; Encheva, Y. of Veterinary Science, XX (1), 36-39, 1983.
" Therapy for peptic ulcer by Chlorella. " by Yamaguchi, Y.; toikawu, M.; Suzuki, R.; Hara, T.; Warita, Y. of Nippon Iji shinpa No. 1990, pp. 25-27, 1967.
" The Administration of Chlorella Extract and the Physique and Physical Fitness of Elementary School Pupils." by Dept. of Hygiene, Nagasaki University Medical School. Science Report on Chlorella in Japan, Silpaque Pub. Kyoto, Japan. Pp 53-55, 1992. If you want even more information on this incredible algae, click on the link
Home Order Worldwide Vitamins & Minerals Powerful Source of Nutriceuticals Degenerative Diseases Aids Bad Breath, Digestion, Constipation High in Scientific Reports
There are literally thousands of reports on the research done an the use of chlorella, we can only put a few here.
Chlorella Strengthens the Immune System & Anti-tumor effects Chlorella stimulates the activity of T-cells and macrophages (by increasing interferon levels) enhancing the immune system's ability to combat foreign invaders whether they are bacteria, viruses, chemicals or foreign proteins.
Chlorella extract (CGF) to treat patients whose immune systems were suppressed as a result of having brain tumors which were treated with surgery, radiation or Chemotherapy. Result showed that patients' immune systems remained at near normal levels and were less adversely affected by the Immunosuppressive treatments when chlorella was administered. (Merchant, Rice & Young from the Medical College of Virginia, 1990 study.)
A study showed that mice treated with 10mg of Chlorella extract prior to introduction of Cytomegalovirus (A virus that cause many diseases, and cause serious illness in patients being treated with drugs that slow down the immune system.), have survived lethal infection, the chlorella increased the activity of interferon and saving the mice from death. (Natural Immunology Cell Growth Regulation, Miyazaki Medical College Department of Microbiology.)
CGF stimulates the production of interferon, which is believed to slow the growth rate of cancer cells. (Research at Kitazato Institute. )
Chlorella can stimulate the macrophages and T-cells of the immune system, resulting in an anti-tumor effect, probably due to the protection or restoration of macrophage activity, which is usually retarded in the body by the time tumors start to grow. Chlorella also decreased the side effects of chemotherapy --- there was far less damage to the immune system. ( A combined report of Kanazawa Medical University of Japan and Taipei Medical University at the Third International Congress at Reims, France in 1985.)
An extract of Chlorella showed remarkable life prolongation effects in mice bearing Sarcoma 180 (cancer cells) with a broad optimal dose range. The extract was said to be " A potent modifier of some biological response " , such as the cancer-killing ability of macrophage cells. ( A research by Dr. Kanki Komiyamas of Japan.)
The stimulation of tumoricidal peritoneal macrophages can be directly induced by peritoneal implantation of unicellular algae in humans. ( By Vermeil, C.; Morin, O.; Le-Bolic, L. of Arch Inst. Pasteur Tunis. Mar-Jun 62 (1-2): 91-94.)
Chlorella enhanced the growth of Lactobacillus in the human colon by fourfold in a standard growth medium. It evident that Chlorella promotes human colon health. ( A report by Dr. Takechi Y. Gakushu Kenku-sha, Tokyo, Japan. Nov. 30, 1970.)
Popular use of foods containing chlorophyll shows it helps cleanse the bloodstream, deodorize bad breath and body odor, deactivate carcinogenic substances and halt tooth decay. In addition, inflammatory conditions such as arthritis and stomach ulcers respond well to algae supplementation. ( " Healing with Whole Foods " by Paul Pitchford. (North Atlantic Books )
Human RNA/DNA production slows down progressively as people age, resulting in low levels of vitality and increased vulnerability to various diseases. When our RNA and DNA are in good repair and able to function most efficiently, our bodies are able to use nutrients more effectively, get rid of toxins and avoid disease. Cells are able to repair themselves and the energy level and vitality of the whole body is raised? Dr. Benjamin Frank is recommended a diet rich in nucleic acids to counter this "aging" process. Current laboratory analysis shows 3% RNA and 0.3% DNA in Chlorella which would make it one of the highest known food substances in nucleic acids. ( " The No-Aging Diet " by Dr. Benjamin Frank. )
Dr. Bernard Jensen and other researchers have proved that " The reports of treatment with Chlorella by Dr. Frank to his patients have regain energy and a more youthful appearance. In addition , long-standing problems with arthritis, memory loss and depression begin to abate. " ( " Chlorella - the sun-powered supernutrient and its beneficial properties " by William H. Lee, R. Ph., Ph.D. and Michael Rosenbaum, M.D. )
The Chlorella Growth Factors (CGF) contain richest sources of nucleic acids, which researchers believed that eating foods rich in nucleic acids will slow down the aging process. Experiments with laboratory mice have shown their life span can be extended by over 30% !, after fed with Chlorella. ( " Chlorella: Natural Medicinal Algae " by Dr. David Steenblock. )
Life Extending Effect of Chlorella --- a report showed that the life span of both diabetic and normal mice have increased 30%, after given Chlorella for feeding. ( Medical College of Kanazawa, Japan.)
Because Chlorophyll absorbs and inactivates toxic materials, people have traditionally taken algae for their high chlorophyll content. ( Ron Klatz, D.O., president of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine in Colorado Springs.)
In Japan, interest in chlorella has focused largely on its detoxifying properties - its ability to neutralize or remove poisonous substances from the body, including Cadmium, mercury-caused disease, dixon, PCBs, X-rays and other radiations.
A Report by Scottist in 1986 and report from Japan showed that increase absorption of Cadmium by Chlorella and increased excretion of Cadmium by threefold after intake of Chlorella from animal testing. Chlorella can also detoxify Uranium, Lead, Copper, PCB. ( " A good Health Guide: Chlorella " by William H Lee. R. Ph.D. and Michael Rosenbaum, M.D. )
Chlorella exhibited radioprotective action against Gamma-ray induced Chromosomal damage in mice. The Anti-mutagenic activity of chlorophyll and beta-carotene present in vegetable extracts is now well established. ( The Japan Radiation Research Society in 1993.)
Guinea pigs on a diet rich in chlorophyll showed increased resistance to lethal X-rays. ( U.S. Army report in 1950 .)
Chlorella has the unique property of picking up toxic substances and eliminating them out of the body. Chlorella cell walls absorb and hang onto lead. ( Report by Drs. D. Lorch and A. Weber )
Detoxifying of very harmful Chlorinated Hydrocarbon Insecticide, has been shown to be removed more than twice as fast from the body when chlorella is taken by mouth. ( Dr. S. Pore, of the School of Medicine, West Virginia University, 1984.)
Reports of " Effects of Chlorella on Levels of Cholesterol in Serum and Liver " showed that 16 patients were given 20 tablets of Chlorella daily for three months, without any anti-cholesterol drugs, their cholesterol levels had been significantly lowered. ( Research of Wakahisa Hospital of Fukuoka, Japan. )
Chlorella contains protein of " astonishingly high quality ", could prevent liver gangrene and suggested that people suffering from Kwashiorkor should be given protein made from Chlorella instead of protein from milk. (Report of Hermann Fink of University of Cologne and Bonn in West Germany. Physiol Chem. 182-191, 1956)
" Effect of Chlorella on fecal and urinary cadmium excretion in " by Hagino et al. It ai-Itai Jpn. J. Hyg. 30(1), 77, April 1975.
" Effect of Chlorella on the levels of glycogen, triglyceride and cholesterol in ethionine treated rats. " by Want, L.F. Lin, Y. C. Tung, J. Formosan Medical Assoc., 79 (1), 1-10, 1980.
" A new Chlorella polysaccharide and its accelerating effect on the phagocytic activity of the reticulo endothelial system. " by Kojima, M.; Kasajima, T.; Imai, Y., et al: Recent Adv. Res., 13, 11, 1973.
" Clinical Applications of Chlorella Pills." by Saito, Tatsumi, Saito Taku, Oka, T., Medical Examinations and New Drugs. 3.3 pp. 61-64, 1966.
" The effects of Chlorella on the levels of cholesterol in serum and liver. " by Okuda; Hasegawa, J.; Sonoda, M.; Okabe, t.; Tanaka, Y. of Japan Journal of Nutrition. 1975.)
" The effect of Chlorella as a prophylactic means against bronchopneumonia. " by Terziev V.; Plansk, b.; Encheva, Y. of Veterinary Science, XX (1), 36-39, 1983.
" Therapy for peptic ulcer by Chlorella. " by Yamaguchi, Y.; toikawu, M.; Suzuki, R.; Hara, T.; Warita, Y. of Nippon Iji shinpa No. 1990, pp. 25-27, 1967.
" The Administration of Chlorella Extract and the Physique and Physical Fitness of Elementary School Pupils." by Dept. of Hygiene, Nagasaki University Medical School. Science Report on Chlorella in Japan, Silpaque Pub. Kyoto, Japan. Pp 53-55, 1992. If you want even more information on this incredible algae, click on the link
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Thank you. I've been trying to keep the Chlorella two hours away from all my meds, so definitely haven't been following the "take 1/2 an hour before meals".
There is so much wonderful information on these boards and basically, all my LLND told me was to take two, twice a day. Hmmmmm. It was at the time I was just doing as I was told and too brain fogged to ask questions anyway.
Thanks for the imput.
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dr. k's nurse just told me that chlorella doesn't bind the good stuff. not sure if that applies to meds, but it DOES apply to supplements/herbs.
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GiGi why cant I send you a private message?
Anyway I wanted to ask you if you have ever come across any information on taking digestive enzymes with the chorella to better absorb it.
I never took chorella in the past for any amount of time because it would cause side effects of gas, heartburn, and some nausea.
The article you posted said specifically that we are to stop if we get these symptoms because this means that we are developing a sensitivity to the chorella.
I find that taking enzymes, specifically the expensive ones that break down the cell walls and digest the candida organism help me to better tolerate chorella?
Is this a wise thing to do? Im so desperate to start some type of detox because when ever I go after the yeast with anti-fungals I end up in bed with severe nightmares/dreams. I also get very stiff and depressed. This happens every time I take anti-fungals, be it Caprylic acid, GSE, Nystatin or PAU'D'ARCO bark.
Please let me know. Im so desperate to help.
thanks! LH001
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LymeHerx, because I do not send PM's. You can e-mail me any time - my address is [email protected]
I will get back to your question, as soon as do some important chores at home! Just don't want the thread to disappear.
Take care.
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IM waiting... I really wanna hear some good news cause I hear how great chorella is. I want it everyday.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Help me to take it better so I dont get gas and nausea. I think that means that it is not being absorbed
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My experience has been very good and I still take 3 tablets a day (SunnyGreen). I also have metal toxicities and my bodily detox systems are not the best (only one banged up kidney and liver that has been too stressed prior to Lyme dx)
Great references GiGi! Thanks!
Simply for my neuro brain, I was told that Chlorella is a detox agent. To do a thorough purging of the material that it brings to the intestines, you need to have another agent to prevent reabsorption in our very efficient gut.
I use cholestyramine - carefully timing anything I want to benefit from one hour before and about 4 hours after. I only take it at night right now. I took it in the afternoon when I was on heavy IV and oral abx.
I have been told that I don't need to worry about the timing of the Chlorella.
I've also heard of French green clay, charcoal and those types of things being used to prevent reabsorption in conjunction with Chlorella.
GiGi - any experience here or did I miss it in your posts above?
Sorry - no references, just what docs have told me.
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mustbeapony-
hopefully gigi will come along with some insight for you, but as far as i understand it, chlorella is a binder all its own. it stirs things up, yes, but if you take ENOUGH of it (in the case of chlorella, more is better), it will bind the toxins and move them out, preventing reabsorption into the gut.
this isn't to say you shouldn't also take other binders with chlorella if they test/work well for you, but i believe chlorella on its own, in fairly large doses, is quite capable of binding.
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LymeHerx, re bloating, etc.
Chlorella - Side Effects:
most side effects reflect the toxic effect of the mobilized metals which are shuttled through the organism. (and probably some other bugs that live in the same eco-system that gets stirred up when heavy metals are mobilized)
This problem is instantly avoided by significantly increasing the chlorella dosage, not by reducing it, which would worsen the problem (small chlorella doses mobilize more metals than are bound in the gut, large chlorella doses bind more toxins than are mobilized).
Some people have problems digesting the cell membrane of chlorella. The enzyme cellulase solves the problem Cellulase is available in many health food stores in digestive enzyme products.
Taking chlorella together with food also helps in some cases, even though it is less effective that way. Chlorella vulgaris has a thinner cell wall and is better tolerated by people with digestive problems.
Heather, you said it perfectly - for Pony - Chlorella is by far the best because it has to many other benefits, besides just being the perfect binding agent.
It does mobilize heavy metals/mercury from the extracellular spaces, in the connective tissue, etc., but it does not detox mercury from intracellular spaces. For that other agents have to be used.
If you are in a heavy metal detoxing mode which you are almost automatically by using abx or herbal antimicrobials, you should take enough so that the stool looks a bit greenish. Then you know it will catch all the toxins and take them out.
If someone just can't tolerate chlorella - which is rarely the case - they are just not taking enough to capture what they are mobilizing, you can add other agents to help the neurotoxins out --
Chlorella Destroxin Betasitosterol Pectin Chitosan Cholestyramine Lots of fiber besides the above And making sure you move things as often as possible (BM's) - if not, up magnesium malate, or teas --- You don't want to reabsorb anything!
Some people, a lot of people get serious herxheimers, especially the ones who take abx or other killing agents, but no binding agents, which then causes these herxheimers --- I really don't know what a herxheimer feels like.
Heather's description after taking a drop of Gamma (Rizole) was a perfect example of that --- she felt bad until she took the chlorella to bind the neurotoxins - all of them, not just heavy metals.
If you had waited a long time, just sitting and suffering "herxheimer", you would have the chance of probably meeting the same mercury molecules again somewhere down the road. Rizoles kill microbes of many different kinds, some of which are holding heavy metals in their cell walls, whgich are then also getting out of your system - if you take the binders.
quote: I have been told that I don't need to worry about the timing of the Chlorella.
I've also heard of French green clay, charcoal and those types of things being used to prevent reabsorption in conjunction with Chlorella.
Pony, I would adhere somewhat to the timing. You want to have the chlorella through the stomach and heading toward the exit, before it gets mixed with a dinner or a lot of other foods. That is the reason for timing. It won't hurt if you take it at other times, but it is not as effective.
I have never taken French Clay. Will have to check into it. And charcoal only very short term, because it picks up all the good minerals also, and you don't want to lose them if you can help it. Charcoal is great on a really bad day! Most of us are deficient in minerals.
Good absorbable minerals are very important when detoxing - and really for a healthy life. You will feel a lot better if you have plenty of minerals. I learned to ignore the vitamins - we rarely are deficient in those - but we lack the minerals necessary for good nerve transmission.
I do use Calcium Bentonite Clay mixed to paste with clean water, and apply it to areas that are painful, where the metals and bugs are hanging out, neck, shoulder, knee, ankle, etc, anywhere you had an injury because that is where the microbes congregate; let it dry and wash off. It will pull out heavy metals and more. Apply a bit of oil to the area afterward. If it still hurts the next day, repeat. Use only the cleanest clay -- I will have the check out French Clay.
There is so much you can do to help yourself.
I had a friend here today who is hurting badly: She is on metal and microbial detox - I put her on the chi machine, while she was doing the KMT microcurrent brain clarity channel, while at the same time she was doing Air Energy (ionized air intake) -- all to clear the brain, while sipping ozonated water. It was quite a picture! But sometimes you have to push through - a la Dr. K., "the only way out, is the way through". I pumped her full of chlorella before and after, plus minerals and minerals again. Gave her a bottle of parsley tincture to take often when not feeling too good.
Now, I am going to bed.
Take care and hope this helps.
Just sharing my experiences that got me through this multifactorial disease - Dr. K. calls it the "New Lyme".
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Can someone tell me how to shorten these lines in my posts, please. I know someone told me how, but I forgot.??
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Question: if we have mercury amalgam fillings, is it a good idea or not to take chorella?
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I have read(one of the sources being Dr. K's articles) that the broken cell wall chlorella is less effective than the normal one. Would this mean that I should be taking let's say twice as much of it. My stools do turn green, but...Does anyone have an experience with this? Thank you
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I just wanted to say that this is the most helpful forum I have come across and I am grateful to all of you. I have been educating myself for some time now. In my country doctors know nothing about Chronic Lyme and would not appreciate a "crazy patient educating" them. Anyway I am almost done reading and will have to make a decision to which place in the world to travel for help. I may ask you for an advice, soon, I know this is not the right thread. I just started commenting and then sharing. Having been to quite a few forums I wanted you to know that you are of great help and you will obviously help many more people in the future. A person like me can appreciate this much more than anyone in US, because there is no one who understands and treats the disease in my contry. Everything I have achieved I have done it by myself(inspite of doctors mocking me)with the help of sites like this one. Thanks.
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GiGi, I think it is that last, long link on the one post that made the thread go wide.
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GiGi are you implying that the chorella can mobilze more metals than it can bind? And that my gastro symptoms are from the metal and not from me not being able to digest the fiber cell wall>?
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The detoxification capability of chlorella is due to its unique cell wall and the material associated with it. The cell walls of chlorella have been shown to have three layers of which the thicker middle layer contains cellulose microfibrils." ******************************question:***** If I take digestive enzymes to break down the chlorella cell wall, then am I also getting no benefit from the chlorella? According to this article it is the CELL WALL that soaks up and binds toxins. If I break it down with enzymes, then it seems useless. There must be something else going on. ************************************* Clinical studies and medical researches have showed that toxins such as arsenic, mercury, lead, pesticides, insecticides, cadmium, uranium, P.C.B, radio actives materials etc. have been successfully detoxified from the human body; chlorella cell walls binding to and absorbing these toxics substances and then escorting them safely out of the body.
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I took some more tonight.
I think I feel better after I take it. I wonder what ingredients in this Chlorella are helping me feel better.
I wonder if its doing anything to detoxify me at all.
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