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My doctor put me on the full Cowden Protocol. I was given numerous bottles and a sheet outlining the schedule which I didn't get a chance to look at until today.
How does anyone do this and have the time to do anything else? Herbs must separated from each other by ten minutes and at times taken eight times a day. I want to get better but is this a lifestyle change and do you stay on this indefinitely?
I guess when you go out you take all the bottles with you. Thanks!
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I am on the full Cowden protocol and just into my second month. I don't take all the tinctures with me but do take a small water bottle with the lunch dose to work with me, all of the others I take while at home.
30 min before breakfast, right before breakfast, and right after breakfast. I'm at home and the same with the 3 around dinner and then the one before bed. The only one I take with me is the before lunch one.
When we went away for a long weekend I did take things with me and oh my! I wasn't thinking right and put them all in my purse to carry on the plane. Then realized as we were checking in they wouldn't let me through security with all that liquid and I put it in check in bag. My large bottle of Trace Minerals broke all over everything.
It gets easier. My first month I didn't have the little chart they sent with the second month, the chart makes things so much easier.
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CaliforniaLyme
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AMK, you sound EXACTLY like this one woman in our support group, word for word almost*)!)*!)! She had been doing Cowden and was not been happy with the amount of complexity in it!!!!!!!!!! So you are not alone*)!**)!*)!
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gee, I thought taking ABXs, 3X day plus probiotics and vitamins was a time crunch.
You are admirable if you're attempting it. I hope you "figure out" what fits for you.
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Welcome to herbal protocols. I once counted how many things I was taking a day, it was about 50 different stuff, some 3 times a day, all separate by specific intervals. You're right, it's a full time job.
Selma
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Does the Cowden full protocol work? I've been doing a modified Cowden using cumanda, burbur, adrenal support, and now banderol.
I was herxing so bad initially last summer, I had to go slow. It took me 3 months to get to 15 drops of cumanda/twice daily. I've stayed at that level.
Any success with the Cowden? Were you on ABX first? or Did you start off with Cowden?
Thanks for your input.
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It's a must to have the schedule! When I first saw it, though, I thought there's no way I can do this. However, having spent hundreds of dollars for it, I was determined that I was darned well going to.
If you break the schedule down into small components, it's much easier to deal with. What I had to do was to put a piece of paper over everything but the first line. Then I covered up everything but the first 3 squares for the morning doses.
Once you do that, it becomes very easy to comprehend. Then I lined up the bottles on the kitchen counter in the order they were to be taken. When I finished one combination, I would put them away. When they were all gone, I was done for that time of day.
Once you start the bedtime dose, you can eliminate the lunch dose and that makes it much easier to live with.
I am doing fairly well on the full protocol (have been on this about 2 months). I was on megadoses of abx, including Bicillin shots, for about 2 and a half years before starting the Cowden. (Most likely had Lyme & coinfections for at least 30 years before dx.)
For me, it's basically to detox after all the bug killing. I am no longer on any abx at all and I hope to stay that way.
My LLMD says he has seen marked improvement with the full protocol. It takes at least a month to notice improvement(it's a 6 month protocol).
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Yes I have been on a lot of antibiotics and am trying this because my doctor insisted I do it. I hope I see results because it is expensive and not covered by insurance.
I would have preferred antibiotics to get the bacterial load down because I am not sure if this protocol addresses all the co-infections but I will wait and see what happens.
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I am getting quite well on a mostly herbal, homeopathic, and integrative approach.
It is absolutely a complex full-time job.
I do or take something every waking hour of the day, in between reading about what I am taking and what the benefits and interactions are.
I think and talk about almost nothing else besides my protocol.
I am very single minded and boring. But I am getting better.
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For pills I find it is easier to lay them out in one of those containers with all the compartments.
They make them with 7 compartments (one for each day of the week) this is what I use (although I am not on the cowden protocol)..
but 1 days worth of pills fills the whole week for me. so I refill it every night for the next day.
this way I have to carry and keep track of one container instead of ? bottles
They also make them so you get 3 compartments for each day (morning dose/ afternoon dose/ and nightime dose)
which would provide 21 compartments for the day.
It also makes it easier if you forget if you took something cuz if its not in the container anymore I took it... if it is still there I didnt.
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With tinctures, you could make a glass bottle with water and mix the ones that can be mixed and take this 1 day dose out in your bag (and sip it during the day).
Squeegee is right. Writing is a must. Once you group things together, you start to get a picture how your day is going to be. It takes a few days, even writing, as theory and practice are different!
I was taking tinctures, herbs in capsules, things in powder and rubbing oils/ tinctures, so you can imagine my bag everytime I went out... Quite complicated is the first days, then you start to get used. That's why I always saw herbs as food, more than medicine, so much I was ingesting these stuff.
Good luck! Selma
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