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lpkayak
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thanks

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yanivnaced
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I think cave76 is a big fan of magnet therapy.

just kidding! [Big Grin]

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sickandtiredofbeingsandt
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Hi,
I use magnets not only myself but on my horses. Do they help? Let me put it this way. I have carpel tunnel syndrome but I trim my horses' feet myself. I have magnetic wrist bands that I wear. When I don't wear them, I can barely get through one horse's four feet.

When I wear them, my hands have more strength and I can trim 4 feet. The rest of my body tells me to quit but my hands are still ok.

I have a car seat pad that I sit on and a mattress pad that I have slept on. That all helps with pain management. Placebo effect? Maybe but with horses there is no placebo effect.

I have a magnetic saddle pad I use on my Foxtrotter who has nerve damage on his back. He moves better with it than without it.

He is also a bit excitable. I have a magnetic calming band I use on his forehead and the results are instant. It doesn't guarantee he won't freak out at something but he is observably calmer and more focused with the magnetic band than without.

I use the BioFlex brand which is the best in my opinion. Hope this answers your question.

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Thanks for the recommendation, sickandtired. I'm a believer in magnets although I'm concentrating on other alternatives right (typed with one hand while swallowing a handful of cat's claw, sarsaparilla, and licorice from the other).

Unfortunately, I had to ignore a couple of obvious disruptions to get to yours. Guess recent lessons were NOT learned.

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I tried all kinds of things during the "fibro" years. One thing I tried was a very strong magnet at a wholistic health fair. I recall when the magnet, negative pole side, was placed against my spine where it hurt, the pain went to zero. The magnet was too strong to take away with me.

A guess: the magnet attracts iron and that's what carries oxygen, so we feel better from improved circulation.

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I did 20 sessions on a magnet field matress at a doctor. I didn't feel any different from it but at least it didn't hurt either [Roll Eyes]

Gabrielle

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luvs2ride
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Wow Sickandtired! You trim your own horse? Are you a guy?

No one who has never attempted to trim a horse's hooves can possibly appreciate the amount of strength that takes. Even when I was healthy, I was not strong enough to do this. No way, could I do it now with my arthritic left wrist.

I have used magnets in my shoes long before lyme disease. I had flat feet that hurt. The magnets were not all that helpful. I guess they could not do much for flat feet.

I also had a round magnetic disk. I am going to try to find it and apply it to my wrist to see if it helps me.

My horses are currently barefoot and therefore, I do not have to worry about cleaning the feet. That alone hurts my left wrist (dominant hand) too much. So far, no hoof problems (been over a year).

BTW, I just love the foxtrotter breed. I have TWHs. Foxtrotters are hard to come by here in VA.

Cudos to you and your magnet therapy!

Luvs

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Hi Luvs,
Not a guy. I'm an over 50's woman. I have Minis (11 of them) so they are a bit easier to do. I sit on a bucket and use the Hoofjack so I have a lot of "props".

I have someone else do my Foxtrotter because I want him to have a good balanced trim. I don't have that good an "eye". However I have lost two farriers in one year (one died and one got hurt) so I might have to start doing the FT myself.

I also keep the FT barefoot even though he is very tenderfooted. I have Easyboots that I use on him.

Just a note on the magnets. Really powerful gauss is not a good thing. Keep the gauss at around 500 and no more than a 1000. It's been shown to pull blood cells apart at the higher gauss ratings.

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Like so many things, the most recent "breakthrough" research in magnets was taken out of context and used as marketing hype.

In 1999, 2002, and 2003 a responsible researcher [Weintraub of New York Medical College] conducted a series of small studies to determine if magnets could help with foot pain caused by diabetic neuropathy.

He concluded that FOR THIS SET OF PATIENTS magnets could be very helpful, and recommended further research to verify this and determine what, exactly, was working.

There's no solid research that I know of for the use of magnets in other patient sets. Magnets seem to be very specific in their action -- they don't appear to address pain in general, but they do interrupt pain signals in certain localized nerve dysfunctions.

For a good overview see Intellihealth

And Weintraub's research from 2003:

Static magnetic field therapy for symptomatic diabetic neuropathy: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.

OBJECTIVE: To determine if constant wearing of multipolar, static magnetic [450G] shoe insoles can reduce neuropathic pain and quality of life [QOL] scores in symptomatic diabetic peripheral neuropathy.

DESIGN: Randomized, placebo-control, parallel study.

SETTING: Forty-eight centers in 27 states.

PARTICIPANTS: Three hundred seventy-five subjects with DPN stage II or III were randomly assigned to wear constantly magnetized insoles for 4 months; the placebo group wore similar, unmagnetized device.

RESULTS: There were statistically significant reductions during the third and fourth months in burning..., numbness and tingling, and exercise-induced foot pain ..

For a subset of patients with baseline severe pain, statistically significant reductions occurred from baseline through the fourth month in numbness and tingling.. and foot pain ..

CONCLUSIONS: Static magnetic fields can penetrate up to 20mm and appear to target the ectopic firing nociceptors in the epidermis and dermis. Analgesic benefits were achieved over time.

PubMed

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